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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

Postby Ultra Markus » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:30 pm

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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:14 pm

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MP Ironhide and Ratchet have butts made out of tires, and MP Hound won't be available until months after MP Bumblebee 2.0. I think bots who live in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones. :-?
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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

Postby Big Grim » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:35 am

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Looks like hot garbage in my opinion.
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Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

Postby Emerje » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:11 am

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carytheone wrote:Here's a question that popped into my head this morning. Did Takara or Hasbro expect this new Bee to be well received? One would assume so, otherwise why release it?

Based on what I've read here, at TFW and social media, it's getting universally panned and people are having a hard time finding any real positives. With that being said, is Takara and Hasbro completely oblivious to what fans want? Or are they just really cocky? If they are actually that out of touch, what does that say for the MP line as a whole?
If you sell half as many but raise the price by 100%, then you got a 33 1/3 chance of winning, but I, I got a 66 and 2/3 chance of winning, because Optimus Prime KNOWS he can't beat me and he's not even gonna try! So Starscream, you take your 33 1/3 chance, minus my 25% chance and you got an 8 1/3 chance of winning. But then you take my 75% chance of winning, if we was to go one on one, and then add 66 2/3 per cents, I got 141 2/3 chance of winning. See Starscream, the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you it's all a wash?

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Bee's growing on me, but I'll wait for it to hit half price on Amazon JP.

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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:52 am

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My other two TF friends, having seen BEE 2.0 and the outrageous prices of Overpriced Prime and BB himself, have turned their backs on MP figures altogether. Both diehard Geewun fans.
The line is called "Masterpiece", as such the figures should look like something so well made it earns that moniker. This figure could be part of SIEGE and wouldn't look out of place. That's not a slight against SIEGE, just the lack of finesse with this "MP" BB.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:50 pm

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This figure does not deserve to be called 'Masterpiece', either officially or unofficially. It's overpriced, under-engineered, has some paltry accessories. A nigh-total fail.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

Postby Hellscream9999 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:29 pm

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RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:This figure does not deserve to be called 'Masterpiece', either officially or unofficially. It's overpriced, under-engineered, has some paltry accessories. A nigh-total fail.

Yeah, this scream 'rush job' to me, especially as hound continues to tease us at all of these events
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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

Postby -Kanrabat- » Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:02 pm

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How DARE you call this "hot garbage"?

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There's nothing "hot" about this. :-P
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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:06 pm

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RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:This figure does not deserve to be called 'Masterpiece', either officially or unofficially. It's overpriced, under-engineered, has some paltry accessories. A nigh-total fail.

Yeah, this scream 'rush job' to me, especially as hound continues to tease us at all of these events

I agree, it feels like they should have done better and could have. Hound was shown to us in JULY and here we are 7 months later and he's still just a gray prototype. I really feel he got pushed back, and maybe Bee was shoved in front of not just him, but Blackarachnia too. I think it was supposed to go Hound -> BA -> Bee, but they moved him to get released right after Prime
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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

Postby Wolfman Jake » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:43 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I agree, it feels like they should have done better and could have. Hound was shown to us in JULY and here we are 7 months later and he's still just a gray prototype. I really feel he got pushed back, and maybe Bee was shoved in front of not just him, but Blackarachnia too. I think it was supposed to go Hound -> BA -> Bee, but they moved him to get released right after Prime


What's even weirder with Hound is that we HAVE seen painted samples already! We've had great at-show pics of him for months! And now they've gone back to showing him in gray, unpainted plastic. What the heckin' heck is going on?
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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

Postby Emerje » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:56 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:And now they've gone back to showing him in gray, unpainted plastic.

The gray is actually primer, not plastic. They paint the figures gray to give them a uniform look instead of whatever random colors they molded them out of. We've even seen examples in the past of Takara Tomy painting Hasbro figures gray before they were ready to show off their own color schemes.

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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

Postby william-james88 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:37 pm

I'll admit, I have no clue what factors into that rather high price.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:28 am

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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:27 pm

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william-james88 wrote:I'll admit, I have no clue what factors into that rather high price.

Sheer rote stupidity and being massively short-sighted?
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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

Postby Amelie » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:17 am

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This toy... it's bad. Beyond the transformation that doesn't even do the job of hiding chunks of car where they have no business being - the arms are too short and the face looks even less accurate than the original Masterpiece.

At the very least I'll be able to catch the original Masterpiece on Facebook or something now.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

Postby carytheone » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:12 am

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Ok so this is going to be pure hyperbole, but does anyone ever get the impression "they" are playing mind games with us? Like they are trying to desensitize our expectations?

For example, I was looking at one of those "expensive" non-transforming statues the other day (probably around $200) and I thought to myself that normally for that price I'd expect it to transform. That's when I realized that my expectations have been shifted.

Well played HasTak, well played ;)
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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

Postby Nathaniel Prime » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:35 am

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carytheone wrote:Ok so this is going to be pure hyperbole, but does anyone ever get the impression "they" are playing mind games with us? Like they are trying to desensitize our expectations?

For example, I was looking at one of those "expensive" non-transforming statues the other day (probably around $200) and I thought to myself that normally for that price I'd expect it to transform. That's when I realized that my expectations have been shifted.

Well played HasTak, well played ;)


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I always thought like this, which is mostly why I never buy non-transforming figures or statues (The Imaginarium Arts Arcee may be an exception :twisted: )

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Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:11 pm

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carytheone wrote:Here's a question that popped into my head this morning. Did Takara or Hasbro expect this new Bee to be well received? One would assume so, otherwise why release it?

Based on what I've read here, at TFW and social media, it's getting universally panned and people are having a hard time finding any real positives. With that being said, is Takara and Hasbro completely oblivious to what fans want? Or are they just really cocky? If they are actually that out of touch, what does that say for the MP line as a whole?
If you sell half as many but raise the price by 100%, then you got a 33 1/3 chance of winning, but I, I got a 66 and 2/3 chance of winning, because Optimus Prime KNOWS he can't beat me and he's not even gonna try! So Starscream, you take your 33 1/3 chance, minus my 25% chance and you got an 8 1/3 chance of winning. But then you take my 75% chance of winning, if we was to go one on one, and then add 66 2/3 per cents, I got 141 2/3 chance of winning. See Starscream, the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you it's all a wash?

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Bee's growing on me, but I'll wait for it to hit half price on Amazon JP.

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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

Postby Cyberpath » Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:11 pm

Head/face actually looks pretty good in these pix, but nothing can save the back of the figure, unfortunately.

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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

Postby carytheone » Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:30 pm

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Cyberpath wrote:but nothing can save the back of the figure, unfortunately.
What about...
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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

Postby Michael Alex Kawa » Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:43 am

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I just want to know.....did anyone ask for a Chibi/Penny Racer/Screen Accurate vehicle mode?
Because I always thought MP-21 was perfect.
Yes I do think the vehicle mode is kind of cute, and the fact it comes with the "I :BOT: NY" license plate is cool, and that Spike can fit inside of him is nice.....but that robot mode is.....terrible, especially the feet....I could forgive the back kibble if the feet were done better.
I would have preferred if they did a Goldbug :BOT: Masterpiece if they were going to give Bumblebee :BOT: another Masterpiece, and I don't mean MP-21 painted gold (cause that was already done), I mean one designed as the animation model of Goldbug :BOT:.
Also I guess this could open a door for a Cliffjumper :BOT: in the Masterpiece line, since his vehicle mode is also SD/Chibi like.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

Postby Cyberpath » Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:19 am

Question for the board -- does anyone still want an MP Cliffjumper after seeing the new MP Bumblebee?

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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:43 am

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Cyberpath wrote:Question for the board -- does anyone still want an MP Cliffjumper after seeing the new MP Bumblebee?


Well, yes... That is, if it's a new mold and :TAKARATOMY: get their act together.
Because the further this "absolute cartoon accuracy" madness go, and the further the price gouging go, I'll be basically out of the official MP game.

I'll be a "traitor" and go full Third Party. [-(
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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

Postby Cyberpath » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:49 am

Let me clarify the question -- MP Cliffjumpter: new mold, but same "style" -- same pros & cons as MP-45. Same price.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:29 am

Motto: "Love it? GET IT!
It's that simple."
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Cyberpath wrote:Let me clarify the question -- MP Cliffjumpter: new mold, but same "style" -- same pros & cons as MP-45. Same price.


Of course not. That would be dumb.
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