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Michael Bay: "Jazz is Dead"

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Re: Michael Bay:

Postby DetectiveFork » Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:36 pm

Predacon Rampage wrote:
Dropkick14 wrote::shock: :sad: :-( :MAD: WHY, they had to kill the black autobot,who knows maybe Bay will bring a mexican bot, and a chinese bot and kill them to. :evil: Well as long as the new robots are kick ass cool B-) then I am happy with it. :grin:

I always thought Cosmos sounded like he had a Spanish accent.


Cosmos' accent was based off of Peter Lorre's and Lorre was Hungarian.
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Re: Michael Bay:

Postby Tekka » Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:41 pm

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Omega Charge wrote:Maybe there is a slight chance Michael Bay will change his mind, after all, the sequel is at least a year away, but I think he's moving on to bigger and better things. Maybe Jazz will become part of that at the last moment, but I doubt it. But what I am saying is that what MB has just said is currently what he thinks.

If he didn't flip flop all over the place like a compulsive liar I'd probably pay attention to what he says too.

Still, it's no skin off my nose if Jazz appears or not. He will likely be in a flashback, but I don't care either way. I'm still of the mind the movie was trash.
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Re: Michael Bay:

Postby DesalationReborn » Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:50 pm

This title almost made me expect this speech:

Jazz is dead. Jazz remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was blackest and hippest of all that the world has yet owned has bled lubricant to death under our knives: who will wipe this oil off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become giant, transforming rappers simply to appear worthy of it?
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Re: Michael Bay:

Postby Unicron Singularity » Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:56 pm

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Of course I know Crothers is dead... But what I'm saying, is that if Crothers WAS alive, and voiced Jazz in the movie, he would then be way better than the McCrary version.
Anyways... No more Jazz = No more lame stories about how he managed to survive the incidents in the movie and getting a new body, which prolly is the same (G1 repaint on backside of box.) Hopefully. But HasBlow would prolly milk the Movieverse franchise for all it's got in the 'verse.
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Re: Michael Bay:

Postby Solrac333 » Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:51 pm

Oh well. You know, the more he pisses off fan boys, the more I like him. This movie is so much better than the new animated series. Can't wait for the sequel.
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Re: Michael Bay:

Postby Collector Maximus » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:37 am

It's only movie Jazz anyway, It's not like the REAL Jazz is dead... :roll:
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Re: Michael Bay:

Postby Omega Charge » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:42 am

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Jazz is returning.









in Animated.
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Re: Michael Bay:

Postby Nightracer GT » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:19 am

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jazzrules wrote:Even though this has come from Bay himself, how can we believe anything he says because he said they were going be putting out a lot of false info to keep us guessing.


So everything we hear has to automatically be the opposite?
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Re: Michael Bay:

Postby Predacon Rampage » Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:06 am

DetectiveFork wrote:
Predacon Rampage wrote:
Dropkick14 wrote::shock: :sad: :-( :MAD: WHY, they had to kill the black autobot,who knows maybe Bay will bring a mexican bot, and a chinese bot and kill them to. :evil: Well as long as the new robots are kick ass cool B-) then I am happy with it. :grin:

I always thought Cosmos sounded like he had a Spanish accent.


Cosmos' accent was based off of Peter Lorre's and Lorre was Hungarian.
Oh well, guess Hungarian and Spanish accents sound very similiar. :P

A latino bot or con in general would be cool through. I guess Jazz, Blaster, Tigertron and in my opinion Beachcomber will be the only bots of a ethnicity.
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Re: Michael Bay:

Postby reanimate28 » Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:59 am

did Bay really become a genuine transformers fan....he talks about them all the time....the bigger transnerd he becomes means better the next movie right?
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Re: Michael Bay:

Postby Tekka » Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:07 am

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reanimate28 wrote:did Bay really become a genuine transformers fan....he talks about them all the time....the bigger transnerd he becomes means better the next movie right?

I think he became more of a Bay fan. His opinion on the rest of the Transformers is probably the same as mine on his movie.

I get the feeling he thinks that Transformers are 'his' now, and that's all that matters. I don't think he'd like them at all if the movie hadn't been such a runaway success... If you feed the beast it will reciprocate.

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Re: Michael Bay:

Postby Predacon Rampage » Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:29 am

Tekka wrote:
reanimate28 wrote:did Bay really become a genuine transformers fan....he talks about them all the time....the bigger transnerd he becomes means better the next movie right?

I think he became more of a Bay fan. His opinion on the rest of the Transformers is probably the same as mine on his movie.

I get the feeling he thinks that Transformers are 'his' now, and that's all that matters. I don't think he'd like them at all if the movie hadn't been such a runaway success... If you feed the beast it will reciprocate.

But watch out because when it doesn't need you any more it will run you down.

I think if it hadn't been a success, he would of said it was the biggest mistake of his career, rather then say that the movie should of done well.
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Re: Michael Bay:

Postby Jazz Reborn » Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:22 am

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Re: Michael Bay:

Postby Skowl » Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:30 am

LastBloom wrote:Just remember guys Bay did say he was going to leak false information about the film.


How is this a leak?

Uggghhh.... I'm just going to start cutting and pasting my responses to people who don't understand Bay's original statement.

People, remember what Bay actually SAID about leaking false info. He said just that, that he would LEAK things. If you KNOW it's coming from Bay, it CAN'T be a leak now, can it? Which means it's legit.

Acoms razor, people, is the theory that the simplest explanation is most often the right one. What's simpler, that Bay is spreading false info EVERYWHERE and that there WON'T be lots of new and unique robots and that dead characters WILL be coming back to life - or that Bay is saying that the new movie will have cool new robots, and dead characters will stay dead?

Besides, I'm 99% sure what Bay said about leaking false info is BS. It's just to make us question the inevitable design and script leaks. What bugs me is that if he WAS planning on leaking false info, he would have done so by now and we would have seen more stuff just randomly "pop up" online.
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Re: Michael Bay:

Postby Predacon Rampage » Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:34 am

I just hope they keep dead characters dead if they don't bring back Jazz, and now they just need to keep Arcee out of the movies. :grin:
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Re: Michael Bay:

Postby Tekka » Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:37 am

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Occam's Razor requires logical thinking. :P If someone wants Jazz back badly enough they're not going to give a damn about logic, regardless of how things should ideally be.
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Re: Michael Bay:

Postby Big Grim » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:12 pm

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Menbailee wrote:I'm glad dead does mean dead. I hope that applies to Megatron, too!


Ahh. But we don't know that Megatron is dead. Ratchet said it 'could' kill. Not would. That much power at once may have simply overloaded Megs and put him into a coma/enforced stasis-lock.

And being in the deepest, coldest part of Earth doesn't matter either. Biggest plot-holes ever written. "Extreme cold and high temperature will stop them!" Not really. They managed through Deep Space and Planetary Atmosphere easily enough. D'oh!
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Re: Michael Bay:

Postby Sky Glory of Iacon » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:18 pm

If Bay or anyone in charge SAYS something, it's not a LEAK - it's official information coming from an official source. Bay never said he would spread false information in official announcements; he would only leak things. You should only be skeptical of information from an unknown or unofficial source.


But how do we know what he is saying is really the truth too? He can give statements and post on the boards till the mini bots come home the prom. But unless I have the ESP to read his mind (and the ability to make him wake up in an embarrassing situation involving a crack pipe and Dr. Phil) I do not trust anything anyone says about the movie not even Mr. Bay himself.
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Re: Michael Bay:

Postby InvaderJes » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:45 pm

Ok, so dead means dead. That's good... even if it is poor Jazz. Now what I want to know is this: is decapitated dead? It seems to have killed Bonecrusher, but it didn't bother Frenzy all that much.... :-?
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Re: Michael Bay:

Postby Sarri » Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:27 pm

Big Grim wrote:
Menbailee wrote:I'm glad dead does mean dead. I hope that applies to Megatron, too!

And being in the deepest, coldest part of Earth doesn't matter either. Biggest plot-holes ever written. "Extreme cold and high temperature will stop them!" Not really. They managed through Deep Space and Planetary Atmosphere easily enough. D'oh!

The Trench is nowhere near the coldest part of Earth, nor is it the deepest (that's still the Mariana Trench, which isn't that cold either, around the 273K).

And the Deep Space (so incredibly cold) isn't a plot hole either, modern satellites and other spacecraft have more of a problem of actually cooling down, than they have of freezing up.
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Re: Michael Bay:

Postby OptitronPrime » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:21 pm

I'm not believing anything until I see the movie.
Bay told us he would be leading us off (which it self might be a lie) plus the way he said it "Jazz is dead we have way cooler robots" that sounds pretty dull. I love Jazz as much as the guy with the Autobot Jazz username but unless they bring him back as a porsche with a G1 paint job just leave him dead :cry: we still got Animated Jazz :D
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Re: Michael Bay:

Postby Basketball Jones » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:46 pm

If you play the message forward, it says "Jazz is dead, Jazz is dead."
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Re: Michael Bay:

Postby Burn » Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:20 pm

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Skowl wrote:Uggghhh.... I'm just going to start cutting and pasting my responses to people who don't understand Bay's original statement.


But who's to say you've interpretted his statement correctly?

I still stand by the reasoning that if you're going to throw people it would be better off coming from an official source rather than an unofficial one.

I think you should spare yourself the hassle and just let people interpret how they want rather than trying to shove down our throats your interprettation which may or may not be correct.

Just let people think and believe what they want when it comes to news of this movie.
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Re: Michael Bay:

Postby Tyrenol » Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:10 pm

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RIP, Jazz.

But yeah. Remember when the news was that there's gonna be some fake scripts and fake info being passed around?

I'll wait until the movie is created (and buy the toys while I'm at it) instead of believing all these rumors.

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Re: Michael Bay:

Postby Norcinu » Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:37 pm

Cooler than Jazz, COOLER THAN JAZZ?!?! Bay, who can be cooler than the coolster cooleriza himself?

Then again he's dead now. I guess he can't count anymore can he :-?

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