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News Credits: 668 · Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:45 pm

3's a nice number. We don't need another Star Wars/Star Trek saga.

No thanks.

News Credits: 2 · Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:45 pm

Handbanana wrote:Guys, James Bond is on part 23 or 24, suffered numerous cast and crew changes over the years and still 75% of them are great.

(Goldeneye being the last good bond film, I haven't seen Casino Royale yet)

And Bond just came out of nowhere. You'd only have known about James before the movies had you read the books.

Transformers has just slightly less name recognition, from the past 23 years.

Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:50 pm

im ok with as long as they dont kill prime

News Credits: 972 · Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:01 pm

Grain of salt.

I doubt more than 3 will be made without a "reboot" of some kind, Spidey 3 and PotC3 were both very weak, and even Shrek 3 was not as good as its predecessors (but still pretty damn good). It seems the third movie is the one where storylines falter, and plotholes as big as the Pacific ocean appear

Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:30 pm

Nemesis_Apoc wrote:well, i'm not objected to the idea, but it is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too early in the game to make desicions like that.

Agreed - I think they're jumping the gun just a bit...

Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:50 pm

Handbanana wrote:Guys, James Bond is on part 23 or 24, suffered numerous cast and crew changes over the years and still 75% of them are great.

(Goldeneye being the last good bond film, I haven't seen Casino Royale yet)

I'm not really a Bond fan(besides the videogames), but i totally see what you mean. We should all remember Godzilla as well, there are quite a few of those films as well, and they are all good, in one capacity or another(besides the U.S. made one, but i'd imagine that could go without saying). But maybe this could be Hollywoods "Godzilla series". There was enough interest to make hundreds of tv epidodes so far, a few movies, and things like that. With technology getting better all the time, i would think in a few years time, the effects wouldn't be so costly, and with good writing, they could continue for decades. If the designs rock it could get better all the time, and to have somthing like that with us most of the time, life would really kick even more ass!!!

Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:19 pm

i say if we (the fans) do not approve of Mr. Bay's attempt at Transformers we petetion dreamworks to hire a new director for any future films.

Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:20 pm

this cracks me up....yall really think this movie is going to do big numbers at the box office. doesnt it have to pull in like 200 mill domestic just to break even. dont get me wrong im going to see it and have it the first week it comes out.

but if you all think this will be some kind of movie cash juggernaut....im sad to say you will all be hit with a sharp reality check when the second week numbers come out.

Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:21 pm

lockepsb wrote:i say if we (the fans) do not approve of Mr. Bay's attempt at Transformers we petetion dreamworks to hire a new director for any future films.

it wouldnt be the same though without him..cuz these movies will kick ass with him directing!

News Credits: 1 · Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:27 pm

lilcarus wrote:this cracks me up....yall really think this movie is going to do big numbers at the box office. doesnt it have to pull in like 200 mill domestic just to break even. dont get me wrong im going to see it and have it the first week it comes out.

but if you all think this will be some kind of movie cash juggernaut....im sad to say you will all be hit with a sharp reality check when the second week numbers come out.

this movie will break box office records, thx

Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:29 pm

trilogy eh? just like ROCKY.

News Credits: 11 · Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:40 pm

lilcarus wrote:this cracks me up....yall really think this movie is going to do big numbers at the box office. doesnt it have to pull in like 200 mill domestic just to break even. dont get me wrong im going to see it and have it the first week it comes out.

but if you all think this will be some kind of movie cash juggernaut....im sad to say you will all be hit with a sharp reality check when the second week numbers come out.

Lets see 200 million domestic isnt really that hard to do. 150 million at minimum in theaters is easy given the attention this is getting. And that is 150 mil. over the entire theater run, I think it will do more. And then 50 mil. in DVD sales which is very easy once again given the fan base. Superman Returns wasnt the hit that the WB thought it would be but it still broke 300 mil in theaters before hitting DVD. It will make money, maybe not spidey or pirates money but it will make money.

Oh yeah don't forget Hasbro is splitting profits on movie toys with the studio as well so 100 mil in toys sales worldwide = 50 mil to dreamworks.

Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:41 pm

EXODUS PRIME wrote:im ok with as long as they dont kill prime

That wouldn't necessarily be bad. Hell, the way they make movies, they could kill him off in one & bring him back in the next without missing a beat & still make it a worthwhile story point.

*spoiler warning*

Hell, they plan to kill Megatron at the end of this one....which he would obviously have to be brought back in the next.....so why not Prime, too?

News Credits: 3 · Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:50 pm

Hasent this TF movie been like one of (if not the most) expensive movie to EVER be produced?!? With move US military support than any other movie (like ID4 was susposte to be, but they didnt want to get rid of Area 51, so no military support)....

The powers that be (Dreamworks/Paramount/Hasbro/Anyone else attached to the movie) will keep on cranking out TF movies until the franchise is no longer profitable.. Besides, modern movies make more money off merchendise (as made obvious with Spiderman 3, which made more money in merch than both 1&2 combined in the box office before #3 even opened! Which makes that movie a success money wise)... This TF movie will be no different..

Its still just a long commercial for the toys (and all the other crap with a TF logo on it), only diff now is its a 2+hr commercial that has a real thought out plot that should be intertaining in itself....

Most modern bussiness run sales models like this now.. Do you think its an accident that most of the vehicles in the movie will be GM (just like bad boys 2)?? or on the old tv show roseanne, the beer bottles were budweiser, but said "BEER" instead of "BUDWEISER".. TV shows and movies are more like commercials with product placement and the like than commercials are anymore!!

sorry for the long rant... but I do kinda hope that it is a long francise, as I mostly perfer the westren storylines over the eastren ones and hopefully with a movie franchise, the cartoon will keep being produced over here..

Killing off Megatron would allow them to bring Galavatron in the next one.. That should be obvious, isnt it?!?

Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:58 pm

Wow i hope this happens! There are soo many stories and characters that would translate into so many kickass live action movies. He must be really proud of his movie to be saying stuff like that so we are definateley in for a treat!

News Credits: 2 · Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:01 pm

lockepsb wrote:i say if we (the fans) do not approve of Mr. Bay's attempt at Transformers we petetion dreamworks to hire a new director for any future films.

...I like Mr. Bay's attempt at Transformers...

Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:04 pm

Um, why are some people arguing against having more than 3 movies. Ok given, if they suck, that's not so good, but even if they are half decent and introduce new characters with the action that we've seen in the trailer and the possibility of seeing Cybertron and some other cool ****, why would Transformer fans ask that there "not" be sequels and accuse people of being sequel happy. I personally want 10 if possible!

Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:10 pm

*snort*

The FIRST movie isn't out yet...and BTW, Transformers don't really belong to Bay anyway. :roll:

News Credits: 11 · Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:12 pm

This movie only had like a 180 million dollar budget or something so it wasnt that expensive to make.

Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:18 pm

Shadowman wrote:
lockepsb wrote:i say if we (the fans) do not approve of Mr. Bay's attempt at Transformers we petetion dreamworks to hire a new director for any future films.

...I like Mr. Bay's attempt at Transformers...

Me too...we must be cautios other uwe boll might turn up. that man must stayb away!

Bay if perfect for the job. If you can name a list of directors who could shoot a film with 12 set piece mega action sequences with photo realistic giant effing robots transforming at 80 mph in mid air ending in one kick ass adrenaline fulled summer block buster movie then let me know ok?

News Credits: 23 · Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:45 pm

Some of us are looking for a little more substance than a mindless action flick with subtle pro-American overtones and 'giant effing robots,' Sonny.

News Credits: 2 · Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:52 pm

1337W422102 wrote:Some of us are looking for a little more substance than a mindless action flick with subtle pro-American overtones and 'giant effing robots,' Sonny.

Other's wouldn't want it any other way. :wink:

Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:40 pm

You mean we get to sit through more complaining about character designs, actors, and plots four more times... They should just make a nice trilogy and milk boxsets and special edition DVD's. Because anything more and the general public will get bored unless Bay and friends think they can pull a Harry Potter(which will have SEVEN movies when all said and done.). And if TF movies 3,4, and 5 end up smash hits, then we know that Mr. Bay works for Satan.(maybe)

Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:49 pm

loomdog32 wrote:
Killing off Megatron would allow them to bring Galavatron in the next one.. That should be obvious, isnt it?!?

They haven't even had Megs in an Earth-based alt mode...he's basically supposed to wake up, blow sh*t up, & then die....I'd say let him be Megs a bit longer before they make him Galvy.....possibly keep Galvy tied in with Unicron...

Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:52 pm

Well, I wouldn't mind depending on how well they can do plots for this movie. However, I really would like to see three. If Micheal Bay does Unicron and says he has to have actual terrain and ocean on him, then I give up.

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