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Sabrblade wrote:

cloudballoon wrote:We had promotional poster reveals for the CHUG mainline every year for over a decade, with or without an accompanying show around early Octobers. What do we have for AOTP? Just a logo reveal iirc. Is this non-marketing strategy a means to introduce some mystique to the 13th? Is this winning over fans new & old in anticipation for the line?

The reason we already know such much about this line at this time is because of the leakers. Legacy United still isn't done yet, as there's still one more wave of Deluxes, Voyagers, and Leaders that has yet to be released as of this typing. Officially-speaking, we weren't supposed to know as much about this line as we already do at this point, and wouldn't have known as much if it hadn't been for the leakers spoiling so much about the line several months in advance of Hasbro's schedule of official announcements and reveals for it. The original leaks for this line were unprecedented in how early and how abundant they were in giving things away about this line so far ahead of Hasbro's official plans for it. We've been spoiled, and consequently those early spoilers have made us impatient and restless for something we were yet supposed to know so much about.

cloudballoon wrote:I get that the focus on the 13 Primes for '25 was leaked waaaaaaaaaaay early (back in Feb?) even of we didn't know the official name yet. But the toyline posters (with hints of possible characters) for the next year's toylines usually happened around early Octobers iirc since Siege if not earlier. But we're almost in December now and we still haven't seen the poster (which is also featured on one side/back of product package), that's why I wonder about the intentional "non" marketing material being a strategy to build up the mystique of the Primes.

We should have something like this about a month ago during Pulsecon:

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Sabrblade wrote:It's also because Legacy United got an extension with another wave.

Glyph wrote:Via @CsbiaoO_ again, here are some new pictures of the AOTP Armada Red Alert test shot, giving us our first look at the figure in robot mode (still minus the head).

He's shown standing next to Legacy United Silverbolt (Voyager) and next to the AOTP Prima test shot, so this also gives us a relative size reference for them. Quite a difference given that they're both listed as Voyager class in the waves leak!

The original images come from Baidu.

cloudballoon wrote:Not seeing the value of a Voyager class figure yet. It's about SS86 Ironhide/Ratchet's height, but nowhere near their complexity from the look of it - it's about as involved as a typical car to bot transformation. Give us a good Minicon Longarm then that should make this worth it.

But, I'll probably get this anyway as I want to complete my main 3 Armada autobot, then I just wish to see Demolishor. That's the only design left that I want in Armada.

Sabrblade wrote:It looks like this figure is going for cartoon-accurate scale, in which Red Alert was taller than Hot Shot but didn't tower over him nearly as much as the original toys did.

Glyph wrote:Ooooh... new gallery & commentary for AOTP Megatronus / The Fallen from Mark Maher! (Instagram link, via TFW2005)

Sabrblade wrote:Mark seems to be implying that all of the non-Prime toys in the line (like Armada Red Alert and such) are supposed to be direct bloodline descendants of the 13 Primes themselves.

New lore: The Well of Sparks was created by the 13 uniting all of their artifacts together. No more "Murdered Girl Prime melts down to become Cybertron's babymaker."

Mister Meg T. Fallen's staff is the Spark Fuser instead of the Void Scepter.

Glyph wrote:Can't remember, was that a Furmanism originally?

Glyph wrote:Yeah, I know what the term normally means, but somewhat poor approaches to gender have been kind of a cliché for him too. I figured "was that a Furman addition" was clear...

Glyph wrote:

Kind of interesting to me that the face & lower helmet have a classic G1 Megatron bucket look to them

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