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What a glorious photo-dump...

I keep forgetting this thing has LEDs. I can't wait to have him in hand, hurry up BBTS!

Thanks for the photos, Daimchoc. And a solution to the arms issue for me!

Autobot Genocide wrote:CGA shared an image from Oscar , of the back page of the MMC Leo Dux comic showing off there Nova Prime?

I already like this better than MT's 2010 Prime ripoff.

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paul053 wrote:Pre-ordered. Yeah, finally. Wait, September? WUT!!!???

Okay, my initial plan was to ship all three of them at the same time. Now since this goes to September, I cannot put Razorclaw in POL for that long (6 month rule) if he really comes in in March. Oh well.......

The clock resets each time something new falls into your POL, and it auto ships if you haven't added anything to it in 6 months. Talon will be releasing at some point between Leo Dux and Tigris, so you can still have them all in your POL before you ship.

Not quite. They do ask that you ship after the first item has been held for 180 days. I got a notification last year when I had not shipped in a while; was waiting for something to drop. But many other items HAD been added during that time.

I try to ship quarterly. That gives me maximum PoL shipping savings while still getting me stuff in a reasonable amount of time.

I stand corrected, then.

Rated X wrote:Cant wait to finally get Feral Rex together on my shelves. He will be my biggest baddesr combiner and probally give Uranus a pounding !!!

What LEDs!?? how is this the first time I heard of this? lol

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Looks like I'll be picking up a couple silver oxide 396 batteries when I go up to Home Depot tomorrow...

Hope he drops by the end of this week. My large TFsource Black Friday order (was worth committing the $$ to get the free FP DX Armored Battalion ) finally shipped out thanks to MP Soundblaster, so I'll have plenty to drool over this weekend. But I would love to have this Leo Dux in-hand next week.

What's up with that super ugly Predaking Headsculpt. That missing part in the face sculpt makes it looking like a Rescuebots smiley face head. The sculpt in the helmet looks undersculpted,too overly boxy & bland.

These MMC Head sculpts are so terrible. It almost seems like one person is doing the sculpt on the body. While another person gets exclusive rights to do the sculpt on the robot head. MMC Hexatron was a great sculpt the only minus's was the terrible head sculpt & the guns.

Clonedroids is creating a better head sculpt for Hexatron. Here's hoping clonedroid or another 3rd party company creates a different head sculpt for MMC Predaking.

It sure seems like MMC budget gets cheap when they do the guns on their toys. as Hexatrons guns & razorclaws guns seem overly low quality.

I would have liked to see MMC's razorclaws lions teeth a big bigger.

I think the first initial teaser pics. Showed MMC Predaking with that huge side forearm gun like the 1986 toy had. was this ommitted?

Looking at the TFC & MMC Razorclaw pics above. It sure seems like both toys have there minuses and pluses. If only there was a way to merge both toys pluses into a fusion Razorclaw.

I think the back bone sculpt on TFC Razorclaw is superior to the back sculpting on MMC Razorclaw. TFC Created a more beautiful headsculpt for Predaking.

MMC's lion head & mane look better than the TFC version.

I don't like the shoulder topper sculpt on any of the MMC Predacons. I dislike the TFC Circular wheel shaped sculpting on the TFC Predacons much more.

Overall,I do think the MMC Razorclaw is the more superior,beautiful sculpt as it tries harder to hamage the 1986 toy.

The daddy long legs & cheaply looking,ugly feet & hands on the TFC Razorclaw are what literally ruins the sculpt.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:I think the first initial teaser pics. Showed MMC Predaking with that huge side forearm gun like the 1986 toy had. was this ommitted?

All the Feral Cons' individual guns combine and all their blade weapons combine to make a giant blaster and sword, respectively.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:What's up with that super ugly Predaking Headsculpt. That missing part in the face sculpt makes it looking like a Rescuebots smiley face head. The sculpt in the helmet looks undersculpted,too overly boxy & bland.

These MMC Head sculpts are so terrible. It almost seems like one person is doing the sculpt on the body. While another person gets exclusive rights to do the sculpt on the robot head. MMC Hexatron was a great sculpt the only minus's was the terrible head sculpt & the guns.

Speak for yourself - I really love the Feral Con head sculpts.

And the Feral Rex head sculpt? The faceplate isn't at all homaging the original toy. Nope, not one bit...

megatronus wrote: And the Feral Rex head sculpt? The faceplate isn't at all homaging the original toy. Nope, not one bit...

Looking at both pics. The 1986 Predaking headsculpt is more beautiful & has more sculpting details on the face plate & helmet. Which makes it look better. like the extra ridges around the face plate & the somewhat looking fanged teeth near the bottom of the face plate.

The MMC Predaking face plate & Helmet look terrible. Because there so vastly undersculpted compared to the 1986 version. That missing part on the faceplate looks terrible because it's shaped like a V that makes it look like Predaking has a overly happy smiley face.

You know sometimes,it's a bad thing to try to get too close to the original sculpt when doing newer homage toys. Because a lot of those HasTak TF toys are over 30 years old & were undersculpted.

I prefer the TFC Predaking headsculpt. Because it looks more beautiful & superior than the MMC Version. TFC made a bold smart decision to change this. The full face plate & sleeker more detailed TFC Predaking head looks better than the MMC version hands down.

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Looks like there's an ab crunch on this guy , i don't think iv'e every seen a transformer with one ?

MMC's Predaking headsculpt looks like the toy's, only with better proportions. I guess it's weird and busy, but it's undoubtedly Predaking, so I do like it. TFC's is cleaner and a little more like a generic TF face. That's sort of TFC's thing - make nice enough heads, but just a little different.

Tsutsukakushi wrote: ... A bunch of stuff across a couple of posts ...

It is funny how different people's opinions can be.

One of my favorite things about the MMC Predacons are their head sculpts, including that of the combined mode.

However, I think the TFC Lion mode looks better in a number of ways. I also like the TFC transform for this character better. You point out the back sculpting, and I agree, I think this is one of the ways TFC nailed it. I also prefer the TFC circular shoulders.

But if it were possible to "merge both toys pluses into a fusion Razorclaw" your Fusion Razorclaw, and mine would probably look very different.

This is one of the reasons I really like when the 3Ps have competing products out there. We can weigh those pluses and minuses, and choose the one we like best.

Autobot Genocide wrote:Looks like there's an ab crunch on this guy , i don't think iv'e every seen a transformer with one ?

I think Warden can do that. Let me see if I can snap a pic...

PE's Motobot has an ab crunch.

At this point I can find little to complain about on MMC's Rex and what I can, I can live with. having seen the TFC version of razor claw side by side with Dux (thanks for that pic post by the way!) It does make it hard for me to continue my denial of Ares. I think what really sours me on Nemean is the lame ass weapons compared to Dux. I said it earlier in the post but I'll say it again, that damn combine sword is soooooooo sick! it's just insane! but Nemean has some great details. the lion mode (body wise anyway...) is so much more intimidating but the main and back guns on dux are sick enough to close the gap. All in all, I think there is enough time in-between the bot releases for me to get them all...if I stop eating, stop collecting other toys, stop buying gas, deodorant, socks, cable tv.....this hobby is killing me. lol

toyboxhero wrote:At this point I can find little to complain about on MMC's Rex and what I can, I can live with. having seen the TFC version of razor claw side by side with Dux (thanks for that pic post by the way!) It does make it hard for me to continue my denial of Ares. I think what really sours me on Nemean is the lame ass weapons compared to Dux. I said it earlier in the post but I'll say it again, that damn combine sword is soooooooo sick! it's just insane! but Nemean has some great details. the lion mode (body wise anyway...) is so much more intimidating but the main and back guns on dux are sick enough to close the gap. All in all, I think there is enough time in-between the bot releases for me to get them all...if I stop eating, stop collecting other toys, stop buying gas, deodorant, socks, cable tv.....this hobby is killing me. lol

you sound like me. At one point I was considering getting all 3 of the not-Predakings . I still think all of them (including UT's) have their strong and weak points. It makes collecting 3rd party stuff even tougher when you have to choose between them, but I do enjoy the fact that we have options for different tastes (and even different price points in the case of UT's set). I mean if there were like 9 different versions, that would be tough, but with 2~3 to choose from, I think it strikes a nice balance and (hopefully) drives some competition to start pushing the 3rd party prices in general down a bit, at least in the long run.

If money were infinite I'd definitely get all three. TFC's has it's good points. And, if they all came out at the same time and cost about the same maybe my choice would have been different. Overall, I do like TFC's Razorclaw more (although seeing it in colour hides many of the flaws in MMC"s lion mode). Although I think it's just too big. I know the Predacons were the largest combiner team, but he's as large as MP-10; its too much.

In all I just feel that MMC delivers more for it's price if you get the early bird deals.