The Energon Pub

Auto Bot wrote:I see the car now. With the spoiler.

Looks good. But not an aggressive design. More of all around family car.

It will be something if you can turn this into a speed monster look.

Its not really that agrressive looking i agree, but the cosworth versions are beasts. The one i have is only 70 HP off of the high-end Sierra cosworth version, so she may not look too agressive on the outside (i prefer the more subtle looking cars anyway, and she looks awesome in person from every angle regardless) but she can go like a rocket if she needs to.

Put your foot down and you'll get no complaints from my little baby.

If she lasts and i ever get enough money i plan on installing a supercharger and induction kit. That should take her up to cosworth levels of power and speed. Some better rims and hood vents will help make the car look more agressive but i like the original design so i wont make too many changes to the overall look.

Sonray wrote:

Original Sin wrote:

Sonray wrote:Thats why its called gloss. You ever see a car paint job that didnt shine? (unless it was intentionally painted that way, or has dulled over time?)

Metal shines, and since the character is supposed to be a robot and a car he will shine also.

People who dont understand this simple theory really annoy me. Its like they make it out to seem like having a shiny transformer is a sin against god or something.

I know what gloss is, I am not stupid.

I am saying that the paint job makes it look like he is melting.

You go around to every other kitbash thread and bash people's paint jobs and claim your a master painter, but the second someone says something negative about your work you get in a tizzy.

Learn to take criticism as much as you give it

Yeah cos everyone else can go around with an ego but as soon as i mes about with one im told to "take criticism".

Keep it to yourself next time.

And i dont claim to be anything, i know what i can do.

I seem to remember a time where I read you saying "I didn't get to be a master painter..."

Pretty much exact wording, but of course its from memory so a word might be wrong.

And I don't see anyone else with egos around here.

Truce guys.

Original Sin wrote:

Sonray wrote:

Original Sin wrote:

Sonray wrote:Thats why its called gloss. You ever see a car paint job that didnt shine? (unless it was intentionally painted that way, or has dulled over time?)

Metal shines, and since the character is supposed to be a robot and a car he will shine also.

People who dont understand this simple theory really annoy me. Its like they make it out to seem like having a shiny transformer is a sin against god or something.

I know what gloss is, I am not stupid.

I am saying that the paint job makes it look like he is melting.

You go around to every other kitbash thread and bash people's paint jobs and claim your a master painter, but the second someone says something negative about your work you get in a tizzy.

Learn to take criticism as much as you give it

Yeah cos everyone else can go around with an ego but as soon as i mes about with one im told to "take criticism".

Keep it to yourself next time.

And i dont claim to be anything, i know what i can do.

I seem to remember a time where I read you saying "I didn't get to be a master painter..."

Pretty much exact wording, but of course its from memory so a word might be wrong.

And I don't see anyone else with egos around here.

In that comment i was jokinghttp://www.answers.com/joking&r=67(yes i am aware i am being condescending) and there are tons of egos, havnt you ever seen the planet sized monolith that is Grim's ego for starters?

Anyway, i am good at re-painting, being someone who can re-spray REAL cars and use an airbrush for fine art and fair ground rides gives me more right than most to defend my work, or question someone/give critique over someone elses.

Besides your melting comment was rude to begin with, so what do you expect me to say? "thanks very much and thanks for all the wonderful and helpful comments on the work that i just spent over 3 weeks on putting all my care and attention into that you just blasted to hell with a stupid comment".

Theres a difference between "critique" and "constructive critique" and just plain being annoying and rude.

Sonray wrote:

Original Sin wrote:

Sonray wrote:

Original Sin wrote:

Sonray wrote:Thats why its called gloss. You ever see a car paint job that didnt shine? (unless it was intentionally painted that way, or has dulled over time?)

Metal shines, and since the character is supposed to be a robot and a car he will shine also.

People who dont understand this simple theory really annoy me. Its like they make it out to seem like having a shiny transformer is a sin against god or something.

I know what gloss is, I am not stupid.

I am saying that the paint job makes it look like he is melting.

You go around to every other kitbash thread and bash people's paint jobs and claim your a master painter, but the second someone says something negative about your work you get in a tizzy.

Learn to take criticism as much as you give it

Yeah cos everyone else can go around with an ego but as soon as i mes about with one im told to "take criticism".

Keep it to yourself next time.

And i dont claim to be anything, i know what i can do.

I seem to remember a time where I read you saying "I didn't get to be a master painter..."

Pretty much exact wording, but of course its from memory so a word might be wrong.

And I don't see anyone else with egos around here.

In that comment i was jokinghttp://www.answers.com/joking&r=67(yes i am aware i am being condescending) and there are tons of egos, havnt you ever seen the planet sized monolith that is Grim's ego for starters?

Anyway, i am good at re-painting, being someone who can re-spray REAL cars and use an airbrush for fine art and fair ground rides gives me more right than most to defend my work, or question someone/give critique over someone elses.

Besides your melting comment was rude to begin with, so what do you expect me to say? "thanks very much and thanks for all the wonderful and helpful comments on the work that i just spent over 3 weeks on putting all my care and attention into that you just blasted to hell with a stupid comment".

Theres a difference between "critique" and "constructive critique" and just plain being annoying and rude.

I don't get how I'm being rude?

I said it looks like its melting, what am I supposed to say "it just doesn't look good" like you tell everyone else?

What's annoying is everyone feeling the need to repaint this mold red.

S'cos its Ironhide, his G1 version was red, and everyone is obsessed with G1 re-paints hence why he'll be mostly re-painted red all the time.

Has there been any other versions of ironhide that werent red? Or was G1 Ironhide the only ever Ironhide there had been?

I dont know you see because ive never seen Armada, Energon or Cybertron. (i dont even want to watch the latter two, but im curious about armada)

Energon Iron Hide was blue.

A more accurate "G1" Iron Hide would be repainting Ratchet red since G1 Ratchet and Iron Hide were the same mold/design.

I wasn't trying to be disrespectful.

I just don't like the red, and there's something about the paint that seems off to me.

Original Sin wrote:Energon Iron Hide was blue.

A more accurate "G1" Iron Hide would be repainting Ratchet red since G1 Ratchet and Iron Hide were the same mold/design.

I wasn't trying to be disrespectful.

I just don't like the red, and there's something about the paint that seems off to me.

There was another version of ironhide? I didnt know that. Still, blue or red isnt much of a choice and i think people would rather pick red over blue any day not just because the character is more recognizable in red but because thats what the original G1 design was, and we all know how people are obsessed with G1 repaints.

Energon Ironhide is completely different from G1 Ironhide in both design and character. The only thing they have in common is the name. Energon Ironhide is a young kid who is extremely inexperienced. He's the complete opposite of G1 Ironhide.

Sonray wrote:Here he is!












I am VERY proud with how he has turned out.

I used red two-pack car paint for the alt mode parts, i airbrushed it on and then used some lacquer (clear coat) to give it that super-shiney metal look.

The bot parts are painted with flat red Tamiya paints, and the silver is from the same brand. All coated with a nice gloss finish.

I also added a ball joint to his neck so he has better head articulation, and i also added longer smoke stacks which are made out of cue tips and model filler beleive it or not.

Alt mode pics will come soon, but i just want to make sure the gloss is fully dry before i transform him.

He will be up on ebay as soon as i am fully confident in the dryness of the gloss.

yeah, -snicker- he looks like a mutant. check is face.

His face is unmodified, apart from the black wash i gave it.

Original Sin wrote:Energon Iron Hide was blue.

A more accurate "G1" Iron Hide would be repainting Ratchet red since G1 Ratchet and Iron Hide were the same mold/design.

I wasn't trying to be disrespectful.

I just don't like the red, and there's something about the paint that seems off to me.

A red Humvee ambulance?

nice repaint!

Tramp wrote:Energon Ironhide is completely different from G1 Ironhide in both design and character. The only thing they have in common is the name. Energon Ironhide is a young kid who is extremely inexperienced. He's the complete opposite of G1 Ironhide.

Ya think?

I thought they used the name and his character from G1

He said he didn't know if the name had been used anywhere else not if the character was used somewhere else.

Because obviously G1 ended with G1.

While I'm thinking about it, The elephant part of the Maximal combiner was named Ironhide too.

Auto Bot wrote:A red Humvee ambulance?

I said it'd be more accurate to repaint Ratchet red and make him Ironhide since G1 Ironhide was a van, not a truck.

Humvee ambulances resemble vans more so then trucks

Original Sin wrote:

Tramp wrote:Energon Ironhide is completely different from G1 Ironhide in both design and character. The only thing they have in common is the name. Energon Ironhide is a young kid who is extremely inexperienced. He's the complete opposite of G1 Ironhide.

Ya think?

I thought they used the name and his character from G1

He said he didn't know if the name had been used anywhere else not if the character was used somewhere else.

Because obviously G1 ended with G1.

While I'm thinking about it, The elephant part of the Maximal combiner was named Ironhide too.

Auto Bot wrote:A red Humvee ambulance?

I said it'd be more accurate to repaint Ratchet red and make him Ironhide since G1 Ironhide was a van, not a truck.

Humvee ambulances resemble vans more so then trucks

That's a swell idea. But the Humvee should be painted into some other form of function. Not ambulance.

Auto Bot wrote:

Original Sin wrote:Energon Iron Hide was blue.

A more accurate "G1" Iron Hide would be repainting Ratchet red since G1 Ratchet and Iron Hide were the same mold/design.

I wasn't trying to be disrespectful.

I just don't like the red, and there's something about the paint that seems off to me.

A red Humvee ambulance?

Oooh, now THERES an idea! He'd look great with Ratchets mold, but his head and hands would need some extensive re-molding, as well as removing the ambulance "lights" and rescue tools.

Sonray wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:

Original Sin wrote:Energon Iron Hide was blue.

A more accurate "G1" Iron Hide would be repainting Ratchet red since G1 Ratchet and Iron Hide were the same mold/design.

I wasn't trying to be disrespectful.

I just don't like the red, and there's something about the paint that seems off to me.

A red Humvee ambulance?

Oooh, now THERES an idea! He'd look great with Ratchets mold, but his head and hands would need some extensive re-molding, as well as removing the ambulance "lights" and rescue tools.

It would fit the character to make him an armored car.

That should be an easy transition from an ambulance.

If I had a movie Ratchet I'd try it out.

Original Sin wrote:

Sonray wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:

Original Sin wrote:Energon Iron Hide was blue.

A more accurate "G1" Iron Hide would be repainting Ratchet red since G1 Ratchet and Iron Hide were the same mold/design.

I wasn't trying to be disrespectful.

I just don't like the red, and there's something about the paint that seems off to me.

A red Humvee ambulance?

Oooh, now THERES an idea! He'd look great with Ratchets mold, but his head and hands would need some extensive re-molding, as well as removing the ambulance "lights" and rescue tools.

It would fit the character to make him an armored car.

That should be an easy transition from an ambulance.

If I had a movie Ratchet I'd try it out.

Im gonna keep my eye out for a cheap one too.

Stupid Computers.

Hey, thAat's a very sharp body. The head looks a little forced, but knowing the Movie heads as I do, that's good.

Sonray wrote:

Original Sin wrote:

Sonray wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:

Original Sin wrote:Energon Iron Hide was blue.

A more accurate "G1" Iron Hide would be repainting Ratchet red since G1 Ratchet and Iron Hide were the same mold/design.

I wasn't trying to be disrespectful.

I just don't like the red, and there's something about the paint that seems off to me.

A red Humvee ambulance?

Oooh, now THERES an idea! He'd look great with Ratchets mold, but his head and hands would need some extensive re-molding, as well as removing the ambulance "lights" and rescue tools.

It would fit the character to make him an armored car.

That should be an easy transition from an ambulance.

If I had a movie Ratchet I'd try it out.

Im gonna keep my eye out for a cheap one too.

Armored vehicle is a good idea.

May i suggest a remold of the arm weapon too.

Finally!!! nice job!!!

skywarp-2 wrote:Finally!!! nice job!!!

Thanks. Woah..9 pages! My biggest thread ever i think

dude nice work!

Skyscream wrote:dude nice work!

Thanks!