JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Is that a on his shoulder? If so, it's simply Optimus Prime in black, not Nemesis Prime.
Randomhero wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Is that a on his shoulder? If so, it's simply Optimus Prime in black, not Nemesis Prime.
Yeah. That’s why it’s called black convoy. Not nemesis prime or scourge. It’s black convoy. He’s a thing that exists.
Jeddostotle7 wrote:Randomhero wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Is that a on his shoulder? If so, it's simply Optimus Prime in black, not Nemesis Prime.
Yeah. That’s why it’s called black convoy. Not nemesis prime or scourge. It’s black convoy. He’s a thing that exists.
...Black Convoy is a frequent Japanese name for Nemesis Prime though (and RID Scourge).
ZeroWolf wrote:Jeddostotle7 wrote:Randomhero wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Is that a on his shoulder? If so, it's simply Optimus Prime in black, not Nemesis Prime.
Yeah. That’s why it’s called black convoy. Not nemesis prime or scourge. It’s black convoy. He’s a thing that exists.
...Black Convoy is a frequent Japanese name for Nemesis Prime though (and RID Scourge).
It's confusing but there has been Japanese repaints of prime that are just Optimus in a black paint job as a (terrible) disguise so he can infiltrate the cons. Nucleon Quest Convoy for example, a black repaint of God Ginrai. If that symbol is a con in the final release then it's just Nemesis/Scourge, if it stays a Bot one, then it's just Optimus.
Jeddostotle7 wrote:Taking all that into account, I don't really think the insignia is gonna have much bearing on what specific character this is supposed to be.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Have there been that many black Optimus redecos from Takara lately that weren't some version of Nemesis Prime, though? I mean, yeah, they did release a lot of "good guy Optimus but in black" toys in years past, but have they continued that trend as of late?
Strictly asking about Takara releases, not Hasbro or Fun Pub.
ZeroWolf wrote:Jeddostotle7 wrote:Randomhero wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Is that a on his shoulder? If so, it's simply Optimus Prime in black, not Nemesis Prime.
Yeah. That’s why it’s called black convoy. Not nemesis prime or scourge. It’s black convoy. He’s a thing that exists.
...Black Convoy is a frequent Japanese name for Nemesis Prime though (and RID Scourge).
It's confusing but there has been Japanese repaints of prime that are just Optimus in a black paint job as a (terrible) disguise so he can infiltrate the cons. Nucleon Quest Convoy for example, a black repaint of God Ginrai. If that symbol is a con in the final release then it's just Nemesis/Scourge, if it stays a Bot one, then it's just Optimus.
Sabrblade wrote:Have there been that many black Optimus redecos from Takara lately that weren't some version of Nemesis Prime, though? I mean, yeah, they did release a lot of "good guy Optimus but in black" toys in years past, but have they continued that trend as of late?
Strictly asking about Takara releases, not Hasbro or Fun Pub.
william-james88 wrote:How does this matter in any way?
So, none, then (see bolded text).JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Have there been that many black Optimus redecos from Takara lately that weren't some version of Nemesis Prime, though? I mean, yeah, they did release a lot of "good guy Optimus but in black" toys in years past, but have they continued that trend as of late?
Strictly asking about Takara releases, not Hasbro or Fun Pub.
Just a few actually:
- JAFCon Convoy
- Nucleon Quest Super Convoy: special coating that allows him to travel into Black Holes to obtain Nucleon
- MP-1B Convoy Black Ver.: Eldedroid or remote-controlled robotic double
- Alternity Convoy Super Black: reformed Universe 2003 Nemesis Prime
- Black Super Fire Convoy
- Animated Optimus Prime Black Version: despite being repurposed into a Nemesis, he has
- Prime Dark Guard Optimus Prime: reverse-engineered MECH alloys
- Darkside Moon Jetwing Optimus Prime Black ver.
- Lost Age Black Knight Optimus Prime
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:It's been pointed out that the headsculpt looks a little different from that of MP-44.
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Is that a on his shoulder? If so, it's simply Optimus Prime in black, not Nemesis Prime.
Sabrblade wrote:So, none, then (see bolded text).
MP-1B wasn't named "Black Convoy".william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:So, none, then (see bolded text).
Why does it matter exactly when the last time they put an autobot symbol? The fact that one of the MP Primes already went that route is precedent enough.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:MP-1B wasn't named "Black Convoy".william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:So, none, then (see bolded text).
Why does it matter exactly when the last time they put an autobot symbol? The fact that one of the MP Primes already went that route is precedent enough.
What "G1 Black Convoy"?william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:MP-1B wasn't named "Black Convoy".william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:So, none, then (see bolded text).
Why does it matter exactly when the last time they put an autobot symbol? The fact that one of the MP Primes already went that route is precedent enough.
So what? The G1 black convoy was a black redeco with an autobot symbol anyways, no? Now you have double precedent. One for the name and another for the MP line.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:What "G1 Black Convoy"?william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:MP-1B wasn't named "Black Convoy".william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:So, none, then (see bolded text).
Why does it matter exactly when the last time they put an autobot symbol? The fact that one of the MP Primes already went that route is precedent enough.
So what? The G1 black convoy was a black redeco with an autobot symbol anyways, no? Now you have double precedent. One for the name and another for the MP line.
william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:MP-1B wasn't named "Black Convoy".william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:So, none, then (see bolded text).
Why does it matter exactly when the last time they put an autobot symbol? The fact that one of the MP Primes already went that route is precedent enough.
So what? The G1 black convoy was a black redeco with an autobot symbol anyways, no? Now you have double precedent. One for the name and another for the MP line.
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