OptiMagnus wrote:Actually, I think NASCAR Sprint Cup Cars all look exactly the same; big flat boxes with wheels. And they're supposed to, but the 2013 cars will definitely alleviate that. The Nationwide Series cars all look different until you get to the A-pillar, and the Trucks all look the same albeit the grille now. Yes, they each have manufacturer identity with decals and barely visible body lines on the hood unlike open-wheel cars, but since the early 90's they've all begun to look the same. I guess it's to equalize everything, but it doesn't really give manufacturers a fair chance to show off their products. I will say the 2011-12 car is an improvement from the '07-'10 car though. That thing was atrocious.
Shadowman wrote:I will put forth the theory that it was the internet itself trying to punch him in the face.
5150 Cruiser wrote:OptiMagnus wrote:Actually, I think NASCAR Sprint Cup Cars all look exactly the same; big flat boxes with wheels. And they're supposed to, but the 2013 cars will definitely alleviate that. The Nationwide Series cars all look different until you get to the A-pillar, and the Trucks all look the same albeit the grille now. Yes, they each have manufacturer identity with decals and barely visible body lines on the hood unlike open-wheel cars, but since the early 90's they've all begun to look the same. I guess it's to equalize everything, but it doesn't really give manufacturers a fair chance to show off their products. I will say the 2011-12 car is an improvement from the '07-'10 car though. That thing was atrocious.
That's the one thing that a hate about Nascar. They've strayed so much afar from where they started. Back in the 60's, Nascar truly represented there street counterparts. A charger was that. A charger. Not a tube chassis 2 door version with stickers as headlamps. They used the engines that actually were available in the street version. Manufacturers used to "bend the rules" and create a limited edition cars with motor and aerodynamic upgrades so there cars could pass as productions cars. Gave us some pretty trick rides. Until the new charger there wasn't even a rear wheel drive car from the manufacturers that nascar's were based on.
Shadowman wrote:I will put forth the theory that it was the internet itself trying to punch him in the face.
5150 Cruiser wrote:Its not about tube chassis. Its the fact that the cars back then represented an actual car. The charger was still a charger. Galaxy was still a Galaxy. Now the only simularites the race cars share with the street versions is the name. STreet version of the Impala is front drive V6 4 dor. Race version is rear drive V8 2 door. Same with the Toyota Camery, Dodge Intrepid, Ford Fusion etc.
It really wasn't about saftely that brought on the Tube chassis. BUt to make things an even playing field across the board. Yes, a tube chassis is safer than just the steel bodies and rol bars of yester years, but with today's technology with cage building and chassis work, you can sit is possible to attain a safe race car without a tube chassis.
OptiMagnus wrote:Well, it's safe to say a certain pit crew is going to have some a lot of 'splainin' to do.
njb902 wrote:Gordon looked on top of the world after that race, hell he may have topped Bowyer on the excitement scale.
Rodimus Prime wrote:Honestly, I think it was Dave Rogers' fault. He should have had Kyle come in with the others. He was trying to win the race, and lost sight of the big picture, which was to stay ahead of Gordon. Then again, I'll put a little blame on Kyle as well, he was in control of the car, if he wanted to come in really bad, he should have just done so. Rogers might have been pissed, but at least they'd be in the Chase.
njb902 wrote:Eh if I was Kyle Busch I'd be more worried about getting my head in order than not making the chase. After his little stunt last fall he hasn't been the same. Hell Brad keslowsky(sp) is doing a better impression of Kyle than Kyle is. I don't like Kyle but I'd rather see him race hard than be timid. Obviously you can't do crap like he did to be parked, but sheesh it's like he was put in the corner and is sulking.
OptiMagnus wrote:njb902 wrote:Eh if I was Kyle Busch I'd be more worried about getting my head in order than not making the chase. After his little stunt last fall he hasn't been the same. Hell Brad keslowsky(sp) is doing a better impression of Kyle than Kyle is. I don't like Kyle but I'd rather see him race hard than be timid. Obviously you can't do crap like he did to be parked, but sheesh it's like he was put in the corner and is sulking.
I don't like him after last year either, but he has a clean record this year and I'll see if he can keep it up next year before I change my mind. His problem is that he freaks out over any minor problem. If he can keep his cool and suck up his attitude he might see improvement.
njb902 wrote:OptiMagnus wrote:njb902 wrote:Eh if I was Kyle Busch I'd be more worried about getting my head in order than not making the chase. After his little stunt last fall he hasn't been the same. Hell Brad keslowsky(sp) is doing a better impression of Kyle than Kyle is. I don't like Kyle but I'd rather see him race hard than be timid. Obviously you can't do crap like he did to be parked, but sheesh it's like he was put in the corner and is sulking.
I don't like him after last year either, but he has a clean record this year and I'll see if he can keep it up next year before I change my mind. His problem is that he freaks out over any minor problem. If he can keep his cool and suck up his attitude he might see improvement.
Sure can't argue with that.
I wonder if rcr will be able to sponsor a 4th car and snag Kurt........ Which I think is a mistake, he is just as bad as his brother.
Rodimus Prime wrote:After how things went this season, I'm beginning to think that Denny Hamlin is becoming what Kyle Busch should have been. He's definitely top dog at Gibbs, and is tearing it up (in a good way) on the track. Hopefully Kyle can get his **** together next year. His window is coming to a close, because even though he is still young, I don't know how much more patience Gibbs has with him. He won't find a better ride than them if he is let go, because no way is he going back to Hendrick.
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