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NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy CARTOON Series Discussion

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Postby aronjlove » Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:36 am

I still think Jetfire was the worst. He took a noticeably deep breath before each and every sentence. Dude was tired of Starscream's crap, literally.
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Postby Sabrblade » Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:41 am

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aronjlove wrote:I still think Jetfire was the worst. He took a noticeably deep breath before each and every sentence. Dude was tired of Starscream's crap, literally.
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Postby Sabrblade » Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:28 pm

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Postby Quantum Surge » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:41 pm

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Postby Rogue-Primal » Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:33 am

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So far i've only seen season 1 and its great for a betflix series.
But i'm wondering, has Brunt made an appearance as footsoldier or character yet?
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Postby Deadput » Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:38 am

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Rogue-Primal wrote:So far i've only seen season 1 and its great for a betflix series.
But i'm wondering, has Brunt made an appearance as footsoldier or character yet?

He has not in the show nope.

There is only season 1 right now.
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Postby blackeyedprime » Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:55 am

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Show was OK, probably enjoyed it a bit more after coming from a dull wild filler episode of cyberverse.

Didn't see anything wrong with clone wave letting cog through if it was just a set up anyways. Some plot holes/inconsistent story with impactor. A bit too much all spark crap as always, something that most transformers shows can and do well with out.

As for the voice acting, elita one seemed to be doing Windblade impersonations but her voice acting was one of the better ones in the show. Maybe because she sounds familiar to me from the video games I've been playing recently. Megatron was fine-his lips were a bit off putting though, would be nice if they can change the way they are animated for series 2. Also the chest stretching others have mentioned looked pretty bad.
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy CARTOON Series Discussion

Postby Rogue-Primal » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:30 am

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blackeyedprime wrote:Show was OK, probably enjoyed it a bit more after coming from a dull wild filler episode of cyberverse.

Didn't see anything wrong with clone wave letting cog through if it was just a set up anyways. Some plot holes/inconsistent story with impactor. A bit too much all spark crap as always, something that most transformers shows can and do well with out.

As for the voice acting, elita one seemed to be doing Windblade impersonations but her voice acting was one of the better ones in the show. Maybe because she sounds familiar to me from the video games I've been playing recently. Megatron was fine-his lips were a bit off putting though, would be nice if they can change the way they are animated for series 2. Also the chest stretching others have mentioned looked pretty bad.


I didn't like the fact that Jetfire and Impactor were both assigned to the Decepticons. Did the writers mistake the purple wreckers insignia on Impactor for a Decepticon.

Also i don't like how Optimus has been written as a leader who barely has chance against Megatron in all their 1 on 1 fights in this series so far. It's like the base idea for Optimus Prime usual strength was nerfed.
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Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:41 am

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Impactor and Jetfire were on the con side because:

Jetfire- in original G1 toon, he was a friend of Starscreams before the war, hence why he joined their side when he waz revived (also whh the toy has the faction change ginmick). So they went into more depth on him siding with the cons but changing into a bot.

Impactor- the idea behind his and mirages two pack Siege fan poll set was that mirage brings Impactor round to joining the Autobots. While that doesn't happen in the Cartoon, the same thing happens. In IDW 1 it also established that Impactor was friends with Megatron when he was a miner.
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Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:51 am

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Rogue-Primal wrote:Also i don't like how Optimus has been written as a leader who barely has chance against Megatron in all their 1 on 1 fights in this series so far. It's like the base idea for Optimus Prime usual strength was nerfed.



To be honest I quite liked that. The [plot armour] strength that Prime has had in most depictions doesn't really make any sense within the logic of a given continuity.

Most G1 interpretations, Megatron is a miner/gladiator. Because of this, he is traditionally a far more capable and cunning fighter than any depiction of Prime. It also influences his worldview and informs the reader on his personality. He should be very strong and durable.

So how do you justify Prime being his physical equal?? WFC quite rightly says "You don't."
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Postby PerfectVision » Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:47 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Rogue-Primal wrote:Also i don't like how Optimus has been written as a leader who barely has chance against Megatron in all their 1 on 1 fights in this series so far. It's like the base idea for Optimus Prime usual strength was nerfed.



To be honest I quite liked that. The [plot armour] strength that Prime has had in most depictions doesn't really make any sense within the logic of a given continuity.

Most G1 interpretations, Megatron is a miner/gladiator. Because of this, he is traditionally a far more capable and cunning fighter than any depiction of Prime. It also influences his worldview and informs the reader on his personality. He should be very strong and durable.

So how do you justify Prime being his physical equal?? WFC quite rightly says "You don't."


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Miraculous hero or misery porn,the balance seems abandoned these days.
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Postby Sabrblade » Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:50 pm

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Only Hot Rod gets the power boost from the Matrix because he's its Chosen One.

Optimus even admitted in the 1986 movie that he was never worthy to begin with back when he first got the Matrix.
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Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:54 pm

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I think Animated did it best. The Autobots gradually improved as fighters as the story progressed. By their very ethos, the Decepticons should always have the upper hand in strength and firepower.

The Civil War between the Autobots and Decepticons is supposed to last millions of years. Having one side utterly out think and over power the other - the bizarre way G1 (aside from The Movie) and Bayformers portrayed the Autobots - only highlights how few TF writers appreciate a logical balance should exist. Otherwise the conflict doesn't make sense.
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Postby PerfectVision » Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:59 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Only Hot Rod gets the power boost from the Matrix because he's its Chosen One.

Optimus even admitted in the 1986 movie that he was never worthy to begin with back when he first got the Matrix.


The first serie was done with no rigor,it happen with recent stuff as well.
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Postby blackeyedprime » Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:16 pm

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I didn't like the fact that Jetfire and Impactor were both assigned to the Decepticons. Did the writers mistake the purple wreckers insignia on Impactor for a Decepticon.


Kinda the same on jetfire. At least g1 he was tricked/didn't understand the factions but wfc he is a decepticon in charge of a murder squad and then has problems with murdering unarmed prisoners.
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Postby Rogue-Primal » Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:55 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Only Hot Rod gets the power boost from the Matrix because he's its Chosen One.

Optimus even admitted in the 1986 movie that he was never worthy to begin with back when he first got the Matrix.



And yet in that movie he tossed Megatron at least 2 yards before he was going back for his rifle. and in the Marvel comics he was able to knock back a Matrix possessed/powered Thunderwing (he only had it for 4 days if i'm right)in a non matrix powered power master form.

The only other major versions of optimus primes that i'm familiar with know where Prime has been lacking in physical power are

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Postby Sabrblade » Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:23 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Only Hot Rod gets the power boost from the Matrix because he's its Chosen One.

Optimus even admitted in the 1986 movie that he was never worthy to begin with back when he first got the Matrix.



And yet in that movie he tossed Megatron at least 2 yards before he was going back for his rifle. and in the Marvel comics he was able to knock back a Matrix possessed/powered Thunderwing (he only had it for 4 days if i'm right)in a non matrix powered power master form.
Both of those Optimus Primes were at later points in their lives than this one, at which points they had grown stronger and better from experience.
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Postby Rogue-Primal » Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:25 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Rogue-Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Only Hot Rod gets the power boost from the Matrix because he's its Chosen One.

Optimus even admitted in the 1986 movie that he was never worthy to begin with back when he first got the Matrix.



And yet in that movie he tossed Megatron at least 2 yards before he was going back for his rifle. and in the Marvel comics he was able to knock back a Matrix possessed/powered Thunderwing (he only had it for 4 days if i'm right)in a non matrix powered power master form.
Both of those Optimus Primes were at later points in their lives than this one, at which points they had grown stronger and better from experience.


That might be what i'm forgetting. I just hope this Optimus starts showing better feats soon than just commander throwing a "allspark football" and using tactics.
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Postby Deadput » Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:04 pm

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Optimus should always be at the very least "slightly" weaker then Megatron.

You lose tension otherwise when one is never afraid for Optimus and in doing so it makes Megatron a worse antagonist because nobody will be convinced he's an actual threat.

My view personally is that in physical combat Megatron should be more about brute strength while Optimus is more dexterity/agility, this is just for physical ability not mentality.
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Postby o.supreme » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:37 pm

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I've always been of the opinion that Optimus Prime should slightly edge out Megatron. If Megatron is a 9.7 in terms of physical strength, Optimus should be a 9.9. Of course that's when all the other X factors come into play. Optimus strategy, and honor vs Megatron's deceitfulness, and dirty tactics.

Other versions in other continuities are fine. Megatron was a heck of a lot stronger in the Unicron Trilogy etc... But for the original Transformers, most of the Autobots were smaller and weaker than all the Decepticons "We aren't fighters like they are" to quote Huffer. Which is why Optimus stood as a symbol of hope and strength. No matter how strong the Decepticons are, if the "strongest" bot is on your side, you are inspired to fight on. Of course this is not withstanding later additions to the Autobots strength such as the Dinobots or Omega Supreme.

Goign another direction...has there been any news on where season 2 stands. Is it being written, directed, animated, post production? Many shows of this type are able to add a new season to Netflix about every 6 months. But I know this is a unique situation, and not sure if the pandemic has slowed things down. It would be nice to see earthrise somewhere around Jan/Feb, then Kingdom Aug/Sept of 21.
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Postby Sabrblade » Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:29 pm

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o.supreme wrote:Goign another direction...has there been any news on where season 2 stands. Is it being written, directed, animated, post production? Many shows of this type are able to add a new season to Netflix about every 6 months. But I know this is a unique situation, and not sure if the pandemic has slowed things down. It would be nice to see earthrise somewhere around Jan/Feb, then Kingdom Aug/Sept of 21.
At the very least, it's been stated that Seasons 2 and 3 will not have the same writer that Season 1 had.
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy CARTOON Series Discussion

Postby Rodimus Prime » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:39 pm

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Deadput wrote:You lose tension otherwise when one is never afraid for Optimus and in doing so it makes Megatron a worse antagonist because nobody will be convinced he's an actual threat.
I think that horse has left the barn. Throughout all the continuities, Optimus has almost always won in the end. Even if he himself didn't kill (or at least defeat) Megatron, he was involved somehow. The closest to Megatron winning they ever came was TF:TM, and even then Megatron couldn't be considered the winner, because had it not been for Unicron, he would have died. But I guess the other side of that coin is that had Starscream not thrown him out of Astrotrain, he might have survived. Point is, in pretty much every other instance, whether comics, cartoons or Bayverse, Prime wins. Except the last IDW story, but that doesn't really count because the 2 didn't interact much. So by now us fans are preconditioned to expect Prime to win in every new story, and for the purposes of selling toys, I don't think that will change.
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Re: NETFLIX Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy CARTOON Series Discussion

Postby Deadput » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:54 pm

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Deadput wrote:You lose tension otherwise when one is never afraid for Optimus and in doing so it makes Megatron a worse antagonist because nobody will be convinced he's an actual threat.
I think that horse has left the barn. Throughout all the continuities, Optimus has almost always won in the end. Even if he himself didn't kill (or at least defeat) Megatron, he was involved somehow. The closest to Megatron winning they ever came was TF:TM, and even then Megatron couldn't be considered the winner, because had it not been for Unicron, he would have died. But I guess the other side of that coin is that had Starscream not thrown him out of Astrotrain, he might have survived. Point is, in pretty much every other instance, whether comics, cartoons or Bayverse, Prime wins. Except the last IDW story, but that doesn't really count because the 2 didn't interact much. So by now us fans are preconditioned to expect Prime to win in every new story, and for the purposes of selling toys, I don't think that will change.


It's not about Megatron winning or heroes not winning the day, it's about making the victory look convincing and fought for.

I'll never expect Megatron to ever win but I always want him to put up a good fight and there to be some sort of stakes.
Va'al wrote:
Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?

Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.


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