froneyzone wrote: No S#!+ this isn't 1984 - that is EXACTLY why you would think there would be BETTER disguises!
Ok, then I ask you what disguises would you have them be?
froneyzone wrote: And since you started it - how many Peterbilt's have you've honestly seen driving around with that many flames and/or color scheme? I live in Chicago...near the highways and I haven't seen but one...and they looked like they were stuck on by hand and they were yellow on purple.
Ever scene a million dollors lay right in front of you on a table? Just cause you haven't scene it in person, doesn't mean they don't exist. I live along the higway 5 corador in northern California. Main truck route from Redding to LA. I drive this freeway regularly for work as well as made several trips from Norcal to LA. While not nessasarly exactly like Optimus, I have seen plenty of custom trucks run this route. Private truckers take great pride in their rigs.
froneyzone wrote: The whole point of my little rant still holds true. If you saw the Autobots today in their Alt mode - you would know immediately that they were Transformers or at least knew something was up and going on.
Um.. No. Your rant doesn't hold any water. In fact their a huge leak at the bottom.

If i saw their alt modes today, i might just think they were damn nice cars/trucks. Not that they must be alien robots from another planet.
froneyzone wrote:You say non of them have been overly flashy - SAY WHAT? You couldn't even buy Bumblebee's 2nd alt mode back when the first movie debuted. And that is my point -.
Your aurgument still doesn't hold up.
In nearly every generation of TF... In every universe... Their alt modes,.. Autobot and decepticons alike have always been overy flashy!! From G1, to energon, to animated, to TF: Prime. This is nothing new in the TF universe. Could you go out and by an F1 car like Mirrage in G1? could you get a Tyrell P34 F1 car like Drag Strip in G1?? Wheeljacks Lancia rally car alt mode? The list goes on and on dude.
froneyzone wrote:Hasbro gave in and decided to let money do the talking...and it's been said many times before...the first movie looked like one long dragged out car commercial - and because of that the movie stories hold no merit.
And its been said many times that G1 was nothing more than a 30 minute toy comercial. So what? hasbro is in it for the money. Always have, always will be. Problem is that you were dooped just like everyone else in the 80's with flashy alt modes. It wasn't a problem for you then, why is all of a sudden a problem for you now? TF like it or not, is a buisness. Also, GM donnated alot of vehicles for the movie which cut down on cost. Like it or not, people don't want to see a bunch of stock to stockish vehicles roaming around. They want vehicles that will get them excited. And you just not going to get that with an 84 dodge Caravan. I have more to say but my lunch break is over.