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News Credits: 33 · by **TF_JW** » Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:22 am

It was originally unintentional from the writer, because the Toxitron toy was already finalized when he was brought on-board to do the bio. It did though become a fun little nod to unused plans when others at Fun Pub read it.

News Credits: 7 · by **Zeedust** » Sun Jun 12, 2016 4:43 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Just an FYI for all of you folks wondering who Shrute is, its the new name for Hairsplitter.

What is a Shrute anyway?

I think it's the name of a character from "The Office".

RevTibe wrote:Heh, cute that Spinister getting a release as a Targetmaster for Nemesis Prime got a mention in the bio. (I wonder if that would've lead to something more if the club's original plan to have Nemesis as the torso for Wreckage went through.)

I think the reference stands fine on its own, and was amused by it.

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Sun Jun 12, 2016 7:38 pm

I love Ramjet's head. It is awesome.

And I really want a Spinister, extra MTMTE please :lol:

by **1984forever** » Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:34 pm

"Does not want to talk about his mileage" as opposed to saying does not want to talk about his past.

THIS IS THE WAY YOU WRITE TRANSFORMERS

News Credits: 4503 · by **william-james88** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 4:17 pm

Fun Pub's fourth figure of their Transformers Subscription Service is now being received by the fans and several have contacted us to let us know. This time, it is Windsweeper, who is a redeco of Combiner Wars Skydive. This toy is an update to the G1 Windsweeper toy, who was a triggercon, and acts as a limb for Thunder Mayhem. We have quite a few in hand pics for you courtesy of Seibertron and Scotty P, which include Vomes with Matrix of Malice as well.

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 4:27 pm

There is next to nothing in that bio that even even resembles Windsweeper's personality.

Compare this:

To these:

News Credits: 9 · by **Rainmaker** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 4:30 pm

What kind of matrix is that...

:MAXIMAL:

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 4:32 pm

[BW] Rainmaker wrote:What kind of matrix is that...

Read the bio.

News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 4:34 pm

Sabrblade wrote:There is next to nothing in that bio that even even resembles Windsweeper's personality.

Compare this:

To these:

Seems pretty accurate to me; it just adds something new to him.
Besides, it's a new continuity. New interpretations are fine.

News Credits: 21 · by **dragons** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 5:33 pm

Don't like generation one comic art work on him front of plane is behind his feet

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 5:34 pm

Sabrblade wrote:There is next to nothing in that bio that even even resembles Windsweeper's personality.

It appears to be based around the theory that his figure was intended to be a Triggerbot rather than a Triggercon since he's the only con with chrome, spring loaded weapons like Override and Backstreet. On the flip side, Dogfight was probably meant to be a Triggercon since he has gear driven, non-chromed weapons like Ruckus and Crankcase.

Emerje

News Credits: 2 · by **RevTibe** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 5:35 pm

Kurona wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:---

Seems pretty accurate to me; it just adds something new to him.
Besides, it's a new continuity. New interpretations are fine.

Yeah, mostly seems like they expanded on the "cruel" and "malicious" aspects while avoiding directly mentioning the "crazed sanitation admin" aspect. I'm assuming the latter's because it would conflict with Thunder Mayhem's role in reducing Cybertron to an apocalyptic wasteland (the messiest kind of wasteland)?

That said, it might've been fun to have had the bio talk about how he snapped and concluded that best way to ensure Cybertron's never dirtied is to simply destroy it. (That might conflict with currently unrevealed stuff about Mayhem and the Matrix of Mailce, though.)

Emerje wrote:It appears to be based around the theory that his figure was intended to be a Triggerbot rather than a Triggercon since he's the only con with chrome, spring loaded weapons like Override and Backstreet.

Neat stuff! Sounds likely, wouldn't be the first time FunPub's based stuff on speculative parts of Transformers history.

News Credits: 9 · by **Rainmaker** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 5:38 pm

dragons wrote:Don't like generation one comic art work on him front of plane is behind his feet

Generation One artwork was sometimes a little bit too close to the toy for me sometimes, like with Blast Off and the front of his space shuttle being his entire hand.

:MAXIMAL:

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:11 pm

RevTibe wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:---

Seems pretty accurate to me; it just adds something new to him.
Besides, it's a new continuity. New interpretations are fine.
Yeah, mostly seems like they expanded on the "cruel" and "malicious" aspects while avoiding directly mentioning the "crazed sanitation admin" aspect. I'm assuming the latter's because it would conflict with Thunder Mayhem's role in reducing Cybertron to an apocalyptic wasteland (the messiest kind of wasteland)?

Except the latest TCC magazine comic issue features Windsweeper and portrays him in line with his original "neat freak" personality. He gets nervous from the sight of water leaking from some rocks (mistaking it for some disgusting fluid), and idolizes Ramjet for his desire to the destroy the universe (viewing such as the ultimate cleansing operation).

News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:25 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
RevTibe wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:---

Seems pretty accurate to me; it just adds something new to him.
Besides, it's a new continuity. New interpretations are fine.
Yeah, mostly seems like they expanded on the "cruel" and "malicious" aspects while avoiding directly mentioning the "crazed sanitation admin" aspect. I'm assuming the latter's because it would conflict with Thunder Mayhem's role in reducing Cybertron to an apocalyptic wasteland (the messiest kind of wasteland)?
Except the latest TCC magazine comic issue features Windsweeper and portrays him in line with his original "neat freak" personality. He gets nervous from the sight of water leaking from some rocks (mistaking it for some disgusting fluid), and idolizes Ramjet for his desire to the destroy the universe (viewing such as the ultimate cleansing operation).

Nothing in the profile contradicts it.
While it probably should be there because of your reasoning - and, imo, from what RevTribe (can I call you Rev?) said - but there's nothing in the bio which says he isn't like that. It just focuses on the other aspects of his absolute psychotic nature.

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:43 pm

Kurona wrote:Nothing in the profile contradicts it.
While it probably should be there because of your reasoning - and, imo, from what RevTribe (can I call you Rev?) said - but there's nothing in the bio which says he isn't like that. It just focuses on the other aspects of his absolute psychotic nature.

The bio doesn't contradict his his most basic personality element... because it completely forgot to even mention it! There's no hint or trace of his being a clean freak anywhere in that bio.

All it tells us is that he's an evil cruel bad guy who likes to hurt people (which applies to about 90% of all evil Decepticons) and that he used to be an Autobot (which was never the case for the guy). His whole "sanitation"/"anti-littering" thing that made him stand out from other Decepticons is completely ignored by his new bio.

It's as though the author only read the original toy bio and severely misinterpreted it, essentially writing a different character with only rudimentary similarities to Windsweeper, being that he's "malicious" and just "shoots anyone in the sky".

News Credits: 4503 · by **william-james88** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:53 pm

Emerje wrote: On the flip side, Dogfight was probably meant to be a Triggercon since he has gear driven, non-chromed weapons like Ruckus and Crankcase.

I had always thought Dogfight was a con until recently when I further looked into those toys.

[BW] Rainmaker wrote:
dragons wrote:Don't like generation one comic art work on him front of plane is behind his feet

Generation One artwork was sometimes a little bit too close to the toy for me sometimes, like with Blast Off and the front of his space shuttle being his entire hand.

Man, I wish we had an update to that front of shuttle hand design.

Sabrblade wrote:Except the latest TCC magazine comic issue features Windsweeper and portrays him in line with his original "neat freak" personality. He gets nervous from the sight of water leaking from some rocks (mistaking it for some disgusting fluid), and idolizes Ramjet for his desire to the destroy the universe (viewing such as the ultimate cleansing operation).

Those are different independent freelance writers. The guy who wrote this bio had nothing to do with TCC magazine. It was written before that magazine comic issue came out and they probably didnt share scripts since this isnt handled internally but outsourced to freelance writers.

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:58 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Except the latest TCC magazine comic issue features Windsweeper and portrays him in line with his original "neat freak" personality. He gets nervous from the sight of water leaking from some rocks (mistaking it for some disgusting fluid), and idolizes Ramjet for his desire to the destroy the universe (viewing such as the ultimate cleansing operation).

Those are different independent freelance writers. The guy who wrote this bio had nothing to do with TCC magazine. It was written before that magazine comic issue came out and they probably didnt share scripts since this isnt handled internally but outsourced to freelance writers.

My post was in response to how RevTibe suggested that this new bio might reflect how Windsweeper is portrayed in the specific fiction that advertises this new toy.

News Credits: 2 · by **RevTibe** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:01 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
RevTibe wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:---

Seems pretty accurate to me; it just adds something new to him.
Besides, it's a new continuity. New interpretations are fine.
Yeah, mostly seems like they expanded on the "cruel" and "malicious" aspects while avoiding directly mentioning the "crazed sanitation admin" aspect. I'm assuming the latter's because it would conflict with Thunder Mayhem's role in reducing Cybertron to an apocalyptic wasteland (the messiest kind of wasteland)?
Except the latest TCC magazine comic issue features Windsweeper and portrays him in line with his original "neat freak" personality. He gets nervous from the sight of water leaking from some rocks (mistaking it for some disgusting fluid), and idolizes Ramjet for his desire to the destroy the universe (viewing such as the ultimate cleansing operation).

Oh, thanks! Didn't know that Mayhem had made an appearance outside of the text stories. Yeah, if Windsweeper still has his capital-Q Quirk, it is a bit surprising that it wasn't included in his bio.

Kurona wrote:Nothing in the profile contradicts it.
While it probably should be there because of your reasoning - and, imo, from what RevTribe (can I call you Rev?) said - but there's nothing in the bio which says he isn't like that. It just focuses on the other aspects of his absolute psychotic nature.

Yup, Rev's a-okay! Depending on how many characters are permitted/how bothered I feel at time of registration, it can stretch out to Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer, so a degree of abbreviating is expected.

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:05 pm

This Windsweeper bio is like if someone wrote a bio for BW Cartoon Dinobot and somehow managed to completely avoid even hinting at his key character trait of being an honorable warrior.

News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:16 pm

Sabrblade wrote:This Windsweeper bio is like if someone wrote a bio for BW Cartoon Dinobot and somehow managed to completely avoid even hinting at his key character trait of being an honorable warrior.

Perhaps, but considering Windsweeper is pretty obscure... I think it can be excused.

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:25 pm

Kurona wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:This Windsweeper bio is like if someone wrote a bio for BW Cartoon Dinobot and somehow managed to completely avoid even hinting at his key character trait of being an honorable warrior.

Perhaps, but considering Windsweeper is pretty obscure... I think it can be excused.

Since when is obscurity an acceptable excuse for misrepresentation?

It's fine if you don't care about the character. I've no affections for him either. But this bio undeniably missed what made Windsweeper Windsweeper. It's disappointing that it didn't represent how the character is known to be when it's not meant be a new incarnation with a new personality.

News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:33 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:This Windsweeper bio is like if someone wrote a bio for BW Cartoon Dinobot and somehow managed to completely avoid even hinting at his key character trait of being an honorable warrior.

Perhaps, but considering Windsweeper is pretty obscure... I think it can be excused.
Since when is obscurity an acceptable excuse for misrepresentation?

It's fine if you don't care about the character. I've no affections for him either. But this bio undeniably missed what made Windsweeper Windsweeper. It's disappointing that it didn't represent how the character is known to be when it's not meant be a new incarnation with a new personality.

Probably the fact that it's just one bio, which a lot of people won't use as their basis for the character anyway.
And I mean, this isn't exactly new. Tech specs and on-box bios for characters almost always misrepresent or simplify characters; just look at a ton of the Transformers Prime box bios.
I'm not saying it's great, but it's not exactly a big deal nor is it a unique new problem

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:38 pm

Kurona wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:This Windsweeper bio is like if someone wrote a bio for BW Cartoon Dinobot and somehow managed to completely avoid even hinting at his key character trait of being an honorable warrior.

Perhaps, but considering Windsweeper is pretty obscure... I think it can be excused.
Since when is obscurity an acceptable excuse for misrepresentation?

It's fine if you don't care about the character. I've no affections for him either. But this bio undeniably missed what made Windsweeper Windsweeper. It's disappointing that it didn't represent how the character is known to be when it's not meant be a new incarnation with a new personality.

Probably the fact that it's just one bio, which a lot of people won't use as their basis for the character anyway.
And I mean, this isn't exactly new. Tech specs and on-box bios for characters almost always misrepresent or simplify characters; just look at a ton of the Transformers Prime box bios.
I'm not saying it's great, but it's not exactly a big deal nor is it a unique new problem

This is Fun Pub we're talking about, though. They're sticklers for making things all tie together with their fiction (bios included).

News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:45 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:This Windsweeper bio is like if someone wrote a bio for BW Cartoon Dinobot and somehow managed to completely avoid even hinting at his key character trait of being an honorable warrior.

Perhaps, but considering Windsweeper is pretty obscure... I think it can be excused.
Since when is obscurity an acceptable excuse for misrepresentation?

It's fine if you don't care about the character. I've no affections for him either. But this bio undeniably missed what made Windsweeper Windsweeper. It's disappointing that it didn't represent how the character is known to be when it's not meant be a new incarnation with a new personality.

Probably the fact that it's just one bio, which a lot of people won't use as their basis for the character anyway.
And I mean, this isn't exactly new. Tech specs and on-box bios for characters almost always misrepresent or simplify characters; just look at a ton of the Transformers Prime box bios.
I'm not saying it's great, but it's not exactly a big deal nor is it a unique new problem
This is Fun Pub we're talking about, though. They're sticklers for making things all tie together with their fiction (bios included).

Well yeah, but it's still just one bio. It's a shame, but oh well.