IDW wrote:Unbeknownst to the Maximals, the Predacons have taken their first prisoner! As Megatron and Tarantulas run their interrogation, dissent stirs in the Predacon ranks. Who’ll give first—the dissatisfied Dinobot or the captured Maximal? The Beast Wars rage on!
AVAILABLE: April 2021
CREATORS:
Erik Burnham (Author) Josh Burcham (Artist, Cover Artist)
IMPRINT: IDW
PAGE COUNT: 32
COLOR: FC
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Spider5800 wrote:Hoping this starts to pick up a little this issue. The first one was kind of fun, as it showed a lot of stuff we didn't see in the original show, like the actual heist of the golden disk. But issue two felt like spinning wheels.
ZeroWolf wrote:I think you might be being a little unfair to the creators here with how quick dinobot turns, as I imagine they had someone looking over their shoulder the entire time, ordering them to adhere to a status quo. Basically they've had the plot points delivered to them and told they had to funnel the characters there. Now we'll see how long this hand holding will last but my suspicion is that hasbro had been more involved with IDW since the reboot. Before Unicron, it seemed like the crossovers got the short end of the stick but now it's the complete opposite, with the crossovers being better recieved!
The thing about the art reminds me of all the times in the past where we had similar debates, like when we got the first Previews of Animated, and GI Joe vs TF. These things are always marmite. Me? I love it, I've got no problems whatsoever as far as art is concerned. Story wise? I'm reserving full judgement for when they get out of this arc. Hopefully the creative overseers will give them more freedom to play.
ZeroWolf wrote:I think you might be being a little unfair to the creators here with how quick dinobot turns, as I imagine they had someone looking over their shoulder the entire time, ordering them to adhere to a status quo. Basically they've had the plot points delivered to them and told they had to funnel the characters there. Now we'll see how long this hand holding will last but my suspicion is that hasbro had been more involved with IDW since the reboot. Before Unicron, it seemed like the crossovers got the short end of the stick but now it's the complete opposite, with the crossovers being better recieved!
The thing about the art reminds me of all the times in the past where we had similar debates, like when we got the first Previews of Animated, and GI Joe vs TF. These things are always marmite. Me? I love it, I've got no problems whatsoever as far as art is concerned. Story wise? I'm reserving full judgement for when they get out of this arc. Hopefully the creative overseers will give them more freedom to play.
Randomhero wrote: I like this series a lot and it’s no surprise it’s another seibertron review that’s nothing more than dumping on a book because it’s the thing to do nowadays
D-Maximal_Primal wrote: In the series, he's basically angry at Megatron for "failing" and then they eject him straightaway, leading to his "pred in Maximal forces" story. Here, it's like he's been a member for a while, but he has always had an issue with how the Pred forces work
william-james88 wrote:But hey, that retail incentive cover by Josh Perez is pretty kick ass!
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Simplifying this, as shown in issue 1, just makes him a generic trope.
bluecatcinema wrote:Dinobot's turn doesn't really bother me. He was shown from the beginning of this series to be dissatisfied with his fellow Predacons' ruthlessness. What they were planning to do with Nyx was simply the last straw.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:bluecatcinema wrote:Dinobot's turn doesn't really bother me. He was shown from the beginning of this series to be dissatisfied with his fellow Predacons' ruthlessness. What they were planning to do with Nyx was simply the last straw.
Except when the opportunity arrives, Dinobot's entire thing is he is just as ruthless as the other Predacons. He IS a Predacon at his core.. This characterisation, he is WFC Jetfire. IE The defector trope.
^ This trope, is actually a thing. Dinobot was always More than this.
Also, I'm pretty sure I mentioned something about Dinobot and Nyx... Seems a bit prophetic in hindsight.
Transmit Him wrote:I thought it was absolute trash. Nyx has been captured and is being tortured. This should be the point at which we (finally) learn something about her, get in her head and actually come to care about her as a character. And yet her struggle exists only to serve Dinobot's story, as an inciting incident for his entirely inevitable exit from the Predacons. One that is significantly worse than it is in the cartoon because Burnham's take on the character is so ridiculously one-dimensional. There's no believability to this honour-obsessed stick in the mud having signed up with this group in the first place, so him lecturing them at length at how much of a better person he is doesn't read well at all. And that's even before you consider that Nyx does nothing to help in her own escape, is a damsel in distress that is saved by one of the male villains taking pity on her and that Dinobot doesn't even directly interact with her. Her survival is almost incidental to his big grandstanding character moment, which is just the same trite rubbish he's been spouting since issue 1.
Sabrblade wrote:according the interviews at the end of the issue, the decision to make this whole series a new take on the cartoon's premise seems to have come from on high at Hasbro for the sake of marketing consistency across the brand, meaning that any new Beast Wars comic couldn't have reinvented the wheel from the ground up even if they wanted to.
So, with the recycled cartoon premise having been an executive mandate, it's up to Burnham to take the story in whatever new directions he can within the confines of keeping things consistent for the brand. After all, Burnham mentioned that his original draft was "like 99% beat for beat" the same as the cartoon. Whereas the final version is riddled with tons of little differences in the details (the space battle's completely different, for one). He makes it clear that he wants to tell a new and different version of the story, but still has to adhere to what his bosses want from this series.
william-james88 wrote:Sadly, we don't have that big an interactive fanbase on these boards for the comics section. So the way I write my reviews are more heavily opinion based so that they can serve as a jumping off point (like a top 5 list). I looked for other places where this book is discussed and wow, and I thought I was harshTransmit Him wrote:I thought it was absolute trash. Nyx has been captured and is being tortured. This should be the point at which we (finally) learn something about her, get in her head and actually come to care about her as a character. And yet her struggle exists only to serve Dinobot's story, as an inciting incident for his entirely inevitable exit from the Predacons. One that is significantly worse than it is in the cartoon because Burnham's take on the character is so ridiculously one-dimensional. There's no believability to this honour-obsessed stick in the mud having signed up with this group in the first place, so him lecturing them at length at how much of a better person he is doesn't read well at all. And that's even before you consider that Nyx does nothing to help in her own escape, is a damsel in distress that is saved by one of the male villains taking pity on her and that Dinobot doesn't even directly interact with her. Her survival is almost incidental to his big grandstanding character moment, which is just the same trite rubbish he's been spouting since issue 1.
That's Sabrblade's post, not mine. I assure you we are different peopleZeroWolf wrote:ScottyP also said something similar.Sabrblade wrote:according the interviews at the end of the issue, the decision to make this whole series a new take on the cartoon's premise seems to have come from on high at Hasbro for the sake of marketing consistency across the brand, meaning that any new Beast Wars comic couldn't have reinvented the wheel from the ground up even if they wanted to.
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