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Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:01 am

I just saw Shadow Chronicles in cable. I wouldn't mind them doing a redo of the original Macross in the same superior animation. Just to see VF-1s in action again on the screen would be a joy.

News Credits: 332 · Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:36 pm

olokin wrote:I just saw Shadow Chronicles in cable. I wouldn't mind them doing a redo of the original Macross in the same superior animation. Just to see VF-1s in action again on the screen would be a joy.

We had a similar discussion back when Shadow Chronicles first came out on DVD, six months before they released the collectors edition, and the going consensus is that Harmony Gold no longer has the rights to Macross and thus can't use the likenesses of those characters. Makes sense since they've continued to produce new series using the Macross name over the last 10 years or so. It's also believed that they don't have the rights to Southern Cross either.

Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:01 am

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
olokin wrote:I just saw Shadow Chronicles in cable. I wouldn't mind them doing a redo of the original Macross in the same superior animation. Just to see VF-1s in action again on the screen would be a joy.

We had a similar discussion back when Shadow Chronicles first came out on DVD, six months before they released the collectors edition, and the going consensus is that Harmony Gold no longer has the rights to Macross and thus can't use the likenesses of those characters. Makes sense since they've continued to produce new series using the Macross name over the last 10 years or so. It's also believed that they don't have the rights to Southern Cross either.

As always, I'm late to the party. If they didn't have the rights to southern cross, how come Louie Nichols was in Shadow Chronicles?
The dvd didn't reach my country but I was lucky enough to catch it on cable.

News Credits: 332 · Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:26 pm

olokin wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
olokin wrote:I just saw Shadow Chronicles in cable. I wouldn't mind them doing a redo of the original Macross in the same superior animation. Just to see VF-1s in action again on the screen would be a joy.

We had a similar discussion back when Shadow Chronicles first came out on DVD, six months before they released the collectors edition, and the going consensus is that Harmony Gold no longer has the rights to Macross and thus can't use the likenesses of those characters. Makes sense since they've continued to produce new series using the Macross name over the last 10 years or so. It's also believed that they don't have the rights to Southern Cross either.

As always, I'm late to the party. If they didn't have the rights to southern cross, how come Louie Nichols was in Shadow Chronicles?
The dvd didn't reach my country but I was lucky enough to catch it on cable.

Beats me since I have no recollection of anything later than the New Generation. Was she/he/it in "The Sentinels?" That was a Harmony Gold original so maybe thats how.

News Credits: 2 · Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:28 am

Louie Nichols is from Tobotech: Masters saga Chuck...he`s from the Southern Cross section. :-B

aaaaanyways, I found out that none other then Bandai is making the VF-25`s in 1/60, 1/72 and 1/100 scales.

News Credits: 332 · Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:22 am

Black Arachnis wrote:Louie Nichols is from Tobotech: Masters saga Chuck...he`s from the Southern Cross section. aaaaanyways, I found out that none other then Bandai is making the VF-25`s in 1/60, 1/72 and 1/100 scales.

Wow. I really need to get the protoform collection; I'm really out of the loop. Maybe they do have the rights still to Southern Cross since that has never been reproduced over the years unlike Macross which has a new series going on as we speak. Can you describe what the VF-25 looks like? Never seen one, or if I did it's lost in the vast reaches of space known as my memory.

Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:15 am

What do these VF-25s look like?

News Credits: 2 · Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:33 am

THIS is the VF-25 from Macross F. I`m guessing you guys are running a little behind with watching this series as the first episode aired as a special at christmas? ;;)

Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:40 am

Black Arachnis wrote:THIS is the VF-25 from Macross F. I`m guessing you guys are running a little behind with watching this series as the first episode aired as a special at christmas?

Well, where I'm from, we won't get that on cable yet. I really like the fighter mode on that Valk.

News Credits: 2 · Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:09 pm

olokin wrote:
Black Arachnis wrote:THIS is the VF-25 from Macross F. I`m guessing you guys are running a little behind with watching this series as the first episode aired as a special at christmas?

Well, where I'm from, we won't get that on cable yet. I really like the fighter mode on that Valk.

I didn`t either. I downloaded it off the net. B-)

News Credits: 332 · Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:53 pm

Black Arachnis wrote:
olokin wrote:
Black Arachnis wrote:THIS is the VF-25 from Macross F. I`m guessing you guys are running a little behind with watching this series as the first episode aired as a special at christmas?

Well, where I'm from, we won't get that on cable yet. I really like the fighter mode on that Valk.

I didn`t either. I downloaded it off the net.

I wait for the DVD's dubed in English

Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:41 pm

Black Arachnis wrote:
olokin wrote:
Black Arachnis wrote:THIS is the VF-25 from Macross F. I`m guessing you guys are running a little behind with watching this series as the first episode aired as a special at christmas?

Well, where I'm from, we won't get that on cable yet. I really like the fighter mode on that Valk.

I didn`t either. I downloaded it off the net.

may be you can pm me the link then. :grin:

News Credits: 2 · Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:14 am

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I wait for the DVD's dubed in English

yeah good luck with that...and let me know when they do that dub of Macross 7 while you`re at it eh? 8-}

News Credits: 332 · Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:15 am

Black Arachnis wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I wait for the DVD's dubed in English
yeah good luck with that...and let me know when they do that dub of Macross 7 while you`re at it eh?

OK. I don't have any official word I'm just going on what I know. On the directors commentary for one of the Macross DVD's put out by ADV they do mention DYRL and Flashback 2010 more directly how they could really serve as a bookend to the original Macross set. Now, ADV just finished their Lion Voltron releases; they were a bigger hit than expected so they're rushing out the original Go Lion followed quickly by the Vehicle Voltron sets. Also they're finally going to finish Gao Gai Gar. Those are three $50+ sets that will be on the shelves at roughly the same time and going after the same target audience as Macross. Keep in mind that most stores do not carry the "Classic" Anime and go for more of the newer cutting edge stuff with the exception of Voltron. After these three lines have finished their course which may be late this year or early next; depending on when their released, we may see a 2-disc set of the aforementioned Macross movies. Sorry but I don't see them doing Macross 7 any time soon. The only other Macross series I see them putting out is Macross zero and that's only a big maybe.

News Credits: 2 · Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:34 am

yeah Chuck, you do know that the VF-25 is from the NEW series called Macross Frontier right?getting Super Dimensional Fortress Macross, Do You Remember Love? and Flashback 2012 on dvd won`t show you the VF-25. :wink:

News Credits: 332 · Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:26 pm

Black Arachnis wrote:yeah Chuck, you do know that the VF-25 is from the NEW series called Macross Frontier right?getting Super Dimensional Fortress Macross, Do You Remember Love? and Flashback 2012 on dvd won`t show you the VF-25.

Yeah that I know. I was just trying to give everyone an idea of where ADV is going in terms of future Macross DVD releases. There's more money in the Robotech era of the series than in the later shows. I'm not saying Macross 7 will never see the light of day, just not right away.

Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:33 am

I just saw the Macross Frontier priemere episode (courtesy of link provided by Black Arachnis) and was blown away by the animation. Japan sure is the leader in animation today.
I really like the new VF-25 Valks. They look to be the natural descendants of the VF-1. Nicely designed. I'd look for a toy of it. :grin:

News Credits: 332 · Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:16 pm

So Toynami is releasing the Shadow Chronicles Alpha fighters as well as two versions of the Beta fighter. BBTS sent out an e-mail saying that the original list price of 74.99 was wrong and it will actually be in the neighborhood of $150.00. I only ordered one and hope it works with my Ashomia Alpha. I also pre-ordered one of the Shadow Chronicle fighters Hector I think. BBTS made a point of mentioning that Toynami enforces minimum pricing which is odd since BBTS is usually much more than most other locations. Other than that anything else new out there?

News Credits: 2 · Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:51 pm

a Toynami Beta WILL work with an Aoshima Legioss seeing as Aosima borrowed Toynami`s mold...speaking of Mospeada/New Generation, I picked up a CMs Ridearmor and I gotta say..small it may be but I like it!about as big as a G.I.Joe figure.(the small ones, dunno the term for that) and it`sd very well articulated. just a shame it`s also topheavy.oh well, they provide a stand anyways. :grin:

News Credits: 332 · Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:16 pm

Black Arachnis wrote:a Toynami Beta WILL work with an Aoshima Legioss seeing as Aosima borrowed Toynami`s mold...speaking of Mospeada/New Generation, I picked up a CMs Ridearmor and I gotta say..small it may be but I like it!about as big as a G.I.Joe figure.(the small ones, dunno the term for that) and it`sd very well articulated. just a shame it`s also topheavy.oh well, they provide a stand anyways.

I figured that would be the case but I didn't want to assume since I can see something being modified just to mess with me. The CM Ridearmor is that the same as what will be put out by Toynami? I think I have it pre-ordered at BBTS but I'm not sure.

News Credits: 2 · Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:58 pm

to be save on the Alpha/Beta linkup I`m opting for the Brave Gohkin Legioss and Thread set from Cms. same two fighters, diferent comapny and sculpt.and as for the Ridearmor. latest rumor is that it`s either the Megahouse version or the Beagle version Toynami will be selling as their own though they may yet surprie us and toss ther OWN sculpt out there. and on other news, the next wave of the 1/100 VF-1 valkyries is nearly upon us and it brings us FAST packs! :grin:

News Credits: 332 · Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:47 pm

Black Arachnis wrote:to be save on the Alpha/Beta linkup I`m opting for the Brave Gohkin Legioss and Thread set from Cms. same two fighters, diferent comapny and sculpt.and as for the Ridearmor. latest rumor is that it`s either the Megahouse version or the Beagle version Toynami will be selling as their own though they may yet surprie us and toss ther OWN sculpt out there. and on other news, the next wave of the 1/100 VF-1 valkyries is nearly upon us and it brings us FAST packs!

If the CMS set is as half as good as their GaoGaiGar work then it will be awesome. I have the Megahouse version pre-ordered but only the Scott version. I forget who else is making them but I'll go for it as well. I honestly thought that Toynami had given up on the 1/100 figures but thank goodness they're coming.

News Credits: 2 · Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:27 am

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Black Arachnis wrote:to be save on the Alpha/Beta linkup I`m opting for the Brave Gohkin Legioss and Thread set from Cms. same two fighters, diferent comapny and sculpt.and as for the Ridearmor. latest rumor is that it`s either the Megahouse version or the Beagle version Toynami will be selling as their own though they may yet surprie us and toss ther OWN sculpt out there. and on other news, the next wave of the 1/100 VF-1 valkyries is nearly upon us and it brings us FAST packs!

If the CMS set is as half as good as their GaoGaiGar work then it will be awesome. I have the Megahouse version pre-ordered but only the Scott version. I forget who else is making them but I'll go for it as well. I honestly thought that Toynami had given up on the 1/100 figures but thank goodness they're coming.

well, so far all the new Ridearmors we know about are the CMs version(about 3 3/4"), Megahouse, Beagle and possibly Toynami.and the next wave of 1/100`s features DYRL Hikaru VF-1S Strike, Roy VF-1S Strike and VF-1A CF with FAST packs in june and the loose FAST packs in april.and good to hear CMs is a good manufacturer cause I don`t want to contemplate the trouble to get a matching Scott Alpha Fighter for the Toynami Beta Fighter...

News Credits: 332 · Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:39 pm

Black Arachnis wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Black Arachnis wrote:to be save on the Alpha/Beta linkup I`m opting for the Brave Gohkin Legioss and Thread set from Cms. same two fighters, diferent comapny and sculpt.and as for the Ridearmor. latest rumor is that it`s either the Megahouse version or the Beagle version Toynami will be selling as their own though they may yet surprie us and toss ther OWN sculpt out there. and on other news, the next wave of the 1/100 VF-1 valkyries is nearly upon us and it brings us FAST packs!

If the CMS set is as half as good as their GaoGaiGar work then it will be awesome. I have the Megahouse version pre-ordered but only the Scott version. I forget who else is making them but I'll go for it as well. I honestly thought that Toynami had given up on the 1/100 figures but thank goodness they're coming.

well, so far all the new Ridearmors we know about are the CMs version(about 3 3/4"), Megahouse, Beagle and possibly Toynami.and the next wave of 1/100`s features DYRL Hikaru VF-1S Strike, Roy VF-1S Strike and VF-1A CF with FAST packs in june and the loose FAST packs in april.and good to hear CMs is a good manufacturer cause I don`t want to contemplate the trouble to get a matching Scott Alpha Fighter for the Toynami Beta Fighter...

Well I haven't seen CMS' Ridearmor yet so I'll keep an eye out. At first I thought the GGG set was a model because of all the pieces but CMS includes a ton of extras including a set of plugs to cover the screw holes so the figure looks perfect. That's dedication.