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Postby OptimusN1701 » Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:54 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
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Wheeljack35 wrote:I just found out Shatner will make an appearance in the new movie

http://enewsi.com/news.php?itemid=12035

:shock: I didn't realize he was 76


This is a bitt of old news and mis-information.JJ is looking for a roll for him in the script but as of yet its not confirmed.There are two posibilitys......one is the he will play James Kirks father.....the other is that at the films ending we will see a fast foward to a new future and we will see old Kirk and Old Spock sharing a drink.


Wow, that would be, uh wierd, maybe spock will get caught in the nexus where a part of kirk will exist like guinan did


Kirk may never have been stuck in the Nexus at all after this movie.If the leaked script is the one they use young Spock would have all of old Spock's memerorys.And since time would have already been changed there will be no ethical reasons for Spock not telling his friend not to board the Enterprise B....much less all history may be changed since they will have a closer bond at a earlyer time frame.


wtf, so Generations would never happen, and that was one of my favorite films :cry:

Maybe a causality loop will prevent this travesty from happening, I hope at least
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:26 pm

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OptimusN1701 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Wheeljack35 wrote:I just found out Shatner will make an appearance in the new movie

http://enewsi.com/news.php?itemid=12035

:shock: I didn't realize he was 76


This is a bitt of old news and mis-information.JJ is looking for a roll for him in the script but as of yet its not confirmed.There are two posibilitys......one is the he will play James Kirks father.....the other is that at the films ending we will see a fast foward to a new future and we will see old Kirk and Old Spock sharing a drink.


Wow, that would be, uh wierd, maybe spock will get caught in the nexus where a part of kirk will exist like guinan did


Kirk may never have been stuck in the Nexus at all after this movie.If the leaked script is the one they use young Spock would have all of old Spock's memerorys.And since time would have already been changed there will be no ethical reasons for Spock not telling his friend not to board the Enterprise B....much less all history may be changed since they will have a closer bond at a earlyer time frame.


wtf, so Generations would never happen, and that was one of my favorite films :cry:

Maybe a causality loop will prevent this travesty from happening, I hope at least


Maybe but JJ has said in a few statements that their trying to Re-invent the franchise.Thats why I think they'll use this script or a script like the one leaked.....because any changes in history would be exspected and understandable.
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:13 am

Please just tell me this isnt gonna be one massive retcon for Star Trek....
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:01 pm

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OptimusN1701 wrote:Please just tell me this isnt gonna be one massive retcon for Star Trek....


I wouldnt call it a retcon........when retroactive continuity is used its because their trying to fix mistakes done in past stories.In this case an changes to the past would be because someone went back in time to make them.....and succeeded.Do you remember TNG episode "Yeaterday's Enterprise". The Enterprise C entered the TNG time frame before they could save a Kligon outpost....and in doing so changing TNG present history.The only reason why things went back to norm was because they sent the C back to where they came from....if it had stayed it wouldnt have been a retcon.The same applys here.
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:23 pm

Maybe Kirk will embrace what happened originally and decide to go through with the Enterprise B's launch

That would be a good ending, and Kirk seems like he would do that than save his own ass and have god knows what kind of impact on the future
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:45 pm

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OptimusN1701 wrote:Maybe Kirk will embrace what happened originally and decide to go through with the Enterprise B's launch

That would be a good ending, and Kirk seems like he would do that than save his own ass and have god knows what kind of impact on the future


Who know's but from what I've read the change to the past that this movie proposes would wipe out all history.Even if some of it happens again it would have some suttle differences.
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:53 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:Maybe Kirk will embrace what happened originally and decide to go through with the Enterprise B's launch

That would be a good ending, and Kirk seems like he would do that than save his own ass and have god knows what kind of impact on the future


Who know's but from what I've read the change to the past that this movie proposes would wipe out all history.Even if some of it happens again it would have some suttle differences.


I will burn every print of this movie I can find if it ends up being a big FU to ST fans as its starting to appear
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:37 pm

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OptimusN1701 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:Maybe Kirk will embrace what happened originally and decide to go through with the Enterprise B's launch

That would be a good ending, and Kirk seems like he would do that than save his own ass and have god knows what kind of impact on the future


Who know's but from what I've read the change to the past that this movie proposes would wipe out all history.Even if some of it happens again it would have some suttle differences.


I will burn every print of this movie I can find if it ends up being a big FU to ST fans as its starting to appear


I will reserve my wrath till I at least see the movie :grin:
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:12 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:Maybe Kirk will embrace what happened originally and decide to go through with the Enterprise B's launch

That would be a good ending, and Kirk seems like he would do that than save his own ass and have god knows what kind of impact on the future


Who know's but from what I've read the change to the past that this movie proposes would wipe out all history.Even if some of it happens again it would have some suttle differences.


I will burn every print of this movie I can find if it ends up being a big FU to ST fans as its starting to appear


I will reserve my wrath till I at least see the movie :grin:


Well of course
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Postby Moonbase2 » Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:26 pm

The writers are walking on thin ice here--we're excited for a new Trek movie after waiting, by the time it comes out, six years ( :shock: ), but they are cruising for a bruising if they end up screwing with Trek history.

At least they are going with a different cast. I'm glad Trek is so loyal to their actors, but TNG was starting to resemble TOS cast members back when they were doing movies. Well, maybe it's not so much loyalty as it is recognizing a cash cow when they see one.

Too bad some of the original cast won't get to see this.
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:30 pm

Moonbase2 wrote:Too bad some of the original cast won't get to see this.


That might be a good thing
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Postby Moonbase2 » Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:33 pm

You guys wanna hear something kinda dorky and sad?

I had just started watching TOS when I was 14, and I had fallen madly in love with it. I went to the orthodontist, and in People magazine I read that DeForest Kelly had died. I started crying right there in the waiting room. Then I cried all night...
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:32 pm

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Moonbase2 wrote:The writers are walking on thin ice here--we're excited for a new Trek movie after waiting, by the time it comes out, six years ( :shock: ), but they are cruising for a bruising if they end up screwing with Trek history.

At least they are going with a different cast. I'm glad Trek is so loyal to their actors, but TNG was starting to resemble TOS cast members back when they were doing movies. Well, maybe it's not so much loyalty as it is recognizing a cash cow when they see one.

Too bad some of the original cast won't get to see this.


It will be 5 years :sad:
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:34 pm

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Moonbase2 wrote:You guys wanna hear something kinda dorky and sad?

I had just started watching TOS when I was 14, and I had fallen madly in love with it. I went to the orthodontist, and in People magazine I read that DeForest Kelly had died. I started crying right there in the waiting room. Then I cried all night...


You think thats dorky.........I started sheading tears when the Enterprise went up in flames in ST 3 :sad:
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Postby Wheeljack35 » Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:39 pm

My mother creiod when Spock died

and unlike most of you here I seen the origional movies in theaters :P
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Postby Moonbase2 » Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:39 pm

Oh yeah? My sister cried when Spock died and also when the Terminator died!

I was so heartbroken when I found out about Kelly. I loved that old fart.
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:40 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Moonbase2 wrote:You guys wanna hear something kinda dorky and sad?

I had just started watching TOS when I was 14, and I had fallen madly in love with it. I went to the orthodontist, and in People magazine I read that DeForest Kelly had died. I started crying right there in the waiting room. Then I cried all night...


You think thats dorky.........I started sheading tears when the Enterprise went up in flames in ST 3 :sad:


Kirk dying did it for me

And Spocks death always brings a tear to my eye
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Postby Wheeljack35 » Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:43 pm

I hated to see that glorious ship going down like that
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:43 pm

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Wheeljack35 wrote:My mother creiod when Spock died

and unlike most of you here I seen the origional movies in theaters :P


Shhhhhhhhh I saw the first movie in the theaters as well....are you trying to make me feel old :-x
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:44 pm

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OptimusN1701 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Moonbase2 wrote:You guys wanna hear something kinda dorky and sad?

I had just started watching TOS when I was 14, and I had fallen madly in love with it. I went to the orthodontist, and in People magazine I read that DeForest Kelly had died. I started crying right there in the waiting room. Then I cried all night...


You think thats dorky.........I started sheading tears when the Enterprise went up in flames in ST 3 :sad:


Kirk dying did it for me

And Spocks death always brings a tear to my eye


I thought Kirks death was rather week.
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Postby Moonbase2 » Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:50 pm

Kirk's death was sad! Even if he had that stupid line before he died. I thought it was fitting that Picard, uh, bury him. ?
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:52 pm

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Moonbase2 wrote:Kirk's death was sad! Even if he had that stupid line before he died. I thought it was fitting that Picard, uh, bury him. ?


covered him with rocks you mean :grin: That part made no sence to me.....it's not like they could leave his boddy there.
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Postby Wheeljack35 » Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:17 am

Again that reminds me of that book where Spock and Data are looking over Kirks grave and then they see a battle in space above them then see Kirks grave light up

It turned out it was the Borg and they made Kirk the new Locutus
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:19 am

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Wheeljack35 wrote:Again that reminds me of that book where Spock and Data are looking over Kirks grave and then they see a battle in space above them then see Kirks grave light up

It turned out it was the Borg and they made Kirk the new Locutus


read it........wasnt that bad.
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:25 am

Wheeljack35 wrote:Again that reminds me of that book where Spock and Data are looking over Kirks grave and then they see a battle in space above them then see Kirks grave light up

It turned out it was the Borg and they made Kirk the new Locutus


The Return, by William Shatner, and they were working w/ Romulans. And Kirk beat up Worf in that one
Read The Ashes of Eden too


sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:covered him with rocks you mean Grin That part made no sence to me.....it's not like they could leave his boddy there.


I'd rather do that than leave his mangled bloody body there to stare at me. Picard was there for a while I'm sure, he had to do something, it showed respect
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