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I was watching this and yelling, "Yo, guy with the hat! Move out of the f'n way!"

Looks good, though.

Nemesis_Apoc wrote:Dude, that rocks!

but i wanted to smack that dude who's hat kept creeping in front of the screen

Yeah, it looked like he was on his cell phone and being blissfully ignorant that he was getting in the way of the camera. Typical cell phone use behavior.

That looks awesome....

Some of the bitching in this thread is so pathetic! "WE deserve better! This show's gonna suck because the toys suck! I know animation, and this is crap, so no-one should watch it!" Brutal newsflash, ladies- Transformers is aimed at kids. We're not the only ones Hasbro has to think about. They don't have to ask our permission everytime they want to do something.

Out of curiosity i watched the frist episode of gen 1 TF on youtube, thats the first time ive ever seen it! so this is what many are religiously devoted too and making it out to be some infallible masterpiece where any deviation renders it 'sucks/retarded'. well come on guys, its not really all that impressive and I dont see the massive difference between that and this new animation, both are way more characterful than the trilogy stuff, a bit goofy, a bit camp, I really cant see whats so offensive about the new cartoon, it is in itself rather unremarkable (though still neat and totally adequate though for what it is). Interstingly i can remember and name all the new characters already, I cannot do the same for the trilogy toys, admittedly there are lots but they just dont shine.

microclone wrote:Out of curiosity i watched the frist episode of gen 1 TF on youtube, thats the first time ive ever seen it! so this is what many are religiously devoted too and making it out to be some infallible masterpiece where any deviation renders it 'sucks/retarded'. well come on guys, its not really all that impressive and I dont see the massive difference between that and this new animation, both are way more characterful than the trilogy stuff, a bit goofy, a bit camp, I really cant see whats so offensive about the new cartoon, it is in itself rather unremarkable (though still neat and totally adequate though for what it is). Interstingly i can remember and name all the new characters already, I cannot do the same for the trilogy toys, admittedly there are lots but they just dont shine.

its realy about perspective and memory. the way i remember starscream from g1, after rewatching the old toon, is nothing how he realy was. my memory of him is basicly how he was in the comics, though i never read them

a lot of people that i know localy have this staunch memory of how the old cartoon used to be and stuff, and often i hear them talk about it, and in the end, all they realy remember is the old movie, and basicaly, they realy only remember the first 5 minutes of it, and how violent and grown up it was.

but that movie was such a shock to us kids, those that stuck with it and loved it have it burned into our very core. some refuse to believe thier memeroy and perspective of the old toon are anything less then perfect.

its crazy when you read some of these threads with like 500 quotes within quotes within quotes and so on, not only is it an eye sore, but fo those of us who are open minded, we see a very steady pattern

people here seem to demand change, because they are tired of the same thing over and over again

but when it gets changed, theyre pissed because its well, changed, and not in the way that suits thier individual thoughts and beleifs.

and since transformers is such a huge and widely diverse fanbase with near infinate realities and story lines, each with thier own fan following, it leads to constant disagreement and bickering.

see, i want 2 things myself.

1, I want to see the old guys come back, with todays toy tech and with a more serious, deep story, like you see in beastwars.... got the toy part in classics, and the story in the movie

but at the same time, ide like to see a simple, lighthearted show that i as a fan can enjoy with the children i take care of, and in time something that i can enjoy with my own kids, grandkids and whatnot.

weather some of the die hard fans who want to see grown up transformers that are bloody and violent want to admit it or not, transformers, while containing fun and enjoyable things for we the adults, is made for kids. for most fans, thats what made it special for them, it was a part of thier childhood, that gave them enjoyment and fun. and with every year, and every new line and show, new kids are given the same hopes and dreams. i know kids that totaly think armada is the best cartoon ever. i hated it personaly, but when you look at armada in direct comparason of g1, its plagued with the same issues.

now remember how you were,and think of those kids. 10 years from now, theyre out on thier own, and they either never let go of thier childhood, or did, and because of some movie, or toy, or show, they rediscover a part of them selves, and a whole new generation of fans joins into the community.

how many of you never posted here before news of the movie broke? how many just started posting after the movie came out?

how many grew up on beastwars, and thinks that is the only good transformers series?

if you stop and think about it, it all comes together. i just wish we as a fanbase could continue to do so.

but with every new design, or show, we will always fight and argue over our own beliefs i guess.

im hopeing the new animated series, odd design or not, will provide the fun, lighthearted goodness that kids can watch and enjoy, and that those of us who are perents, or doteing uncles can share with future generations.

personaly, i think the designs are akward, but the toys look fun, and accurate, a rareity these days in transformers.

Immortal Starscream wrote:

microclone wrote:Out of curiosity i watched the frist episode of gen 1 TF on youtube, thats the first time ive ever seen it! so this is what many are religiously devoted too and making it out to be some infallible masterpiece where any deviation renders it 'sucks/retarded'. well come on guys, its not really all that impressive and I dont see the massive difference between that and this new animation, both are way more characterful than the trilogy stuff, a bit goofy, a bit camp, I really cant see whats so offensive about the new cartoon, it is in itself rather unremarkable (though still neat and totally adequate though for what it is). Interstingly i can remember and name all the new characters already, I cannot do the same for the trilogy toys, admittedly there are lots but they just dont shine.

its realy about perspective and memory. the way i remember starscream from g1, after rewatching the old toon, is nothing how he realy was. my memory of him is basicly how he was in the comics, though i never read them

a lot of people that i know localy have this staunch memory of how the old cartoon used to be and stuff, and often i hear them talk about it, and in the end, all they realy remember is the old movie, and basicaly, they realy only remember the first 5 minutes of it, and how violent and grown up it was.

but that movie was such a shock to us kids, those that stuck with it and loved it have it burned into our very core. some refuse to believe thier memeroy and perspective of the old toon are anything less then perfect.

its crazy when you read some of these threads with like 500 quotes within quotes within quotes and so on, not only is it an eye sore, but fo those of us who are open minded, we see a very steady pattern

people here seem to demand change, because they are tired of the same thing over and over again

but when it gets changed, theyre pissed because its well, changed, and not in the way that suits thier individual thoughts and beleifs.

and since transformers is such a huge and widely diverse fanbase with near infinate realities and story lines, each with thier own fan following, it leads to constant disagreement and bickering.

see, i want 2 things myself.

1, I want to see the old guys come back, with todays toy tech and with a more serious, deep story, like you see in beastwars.... got the toy part in classics, and the story in the movie

but at the same time, ide like to see a simple, lighthearted show that i as a fan can enjoy with the children i take care of, and in time something that i can enjoy with my own kids, grandkids and whatnot.

weather some of the die hard fans who want to see grown up transformers that are bloody and violent want to admit it or not, transformers, while containing fun and enjoyable things for we the adults, is made for kids. for most fans, thats what made it special for them, it was a part of thier childhood, that gave them enjoyment and fun. and with every year, and every new line and show, new kids are given the same hopes and dreams. i know kids that totaly think armada is the best cartoon ever. i hated it personaly, but when you look at armada in direct comparason of g1, its plagued with the same issues.

now remember how you were,and think of those kids. 10 years from now, theyre out on thier own, and they either never let go of thier childhood, or did, and because of some movie, or toy, or show, they rediscover a part of them selves, and a whole new generation of fans joins into the community.

how many of you never posted here before news of the movie broke? how many just started posting after the movie came out?

how many grew up on beastwars, and thinks that is the only good transformers series?

if you stop and think about it, it all comes together. i just wish we as a fanbase could continue to do so.

but with every new design, or show, we will always fight and argue over our own beliefs i guess.

im hopeing the new animated series, odd design or not, will provide the fun, lighthearted goodness that kids can watch and enjoy, and that those of us who are perents, or doteing uncles can share with future generations.

personaly, i think the designs are akward, but the toys look fun, and accurate, a rareity these days in transformers.

good points for sure!! I sure am glad times are good (wel, for toys anyway) and soon one can choose:gen 1 reissues, binaltech, classics 1 and 2, animated, trilogy, even gen 1, oh and movie!!!!

I don't have the patience to read every single post in this forum, but i decided to put my two cents into it anyway.

This cartoon will have to do a lot for me to like it. Mainly because it has the whole Teen Titan thing dragging it down. The one thing Teen Titans did wrong (IMO) was the obvious anime influence. I'm a fan of classic cartoons so i don't mind cartoon humor. But, when the mouth of a character turns into a giant square in two seconds without any sign of a lipline...then it's gone too far. (Also, i really hate angry veins and sweatdrops...emotion in artwork should be able to be expressed without that nonsense)
I do like how the style isn't the same as every other one...but there's just something that irks me about it that i just can't quite think of.
I could also write another paragraph about the necessity of good writing, but i won't.

There's potential here...i'm just hoping they don't go overboard.

wacth the hole thing and at the very end it comes up with some videos the top is the opening of the episodes and shows u the toys with a clip of starscreem and megatron

i think the motor bike is a ex autobot or decepticon and i have seen starscreem and arcee in a trailer after the new clip!

after seeing the preview aswell as this video i'm feeling alot better about this series, i believe this might be the first series i actually like starscream as much as the otehr characters

It still sucks, no matter how good the voice actors are in this, the animation is still awful, and the designs scream of Teen Titans & The Batman anime crap.

Not sure I like David Kaye's Optimus that much, I kind of prefer Chalk even though he wasn't that great as a Prime either (possibly due to bad script?). But so far, this is looking great.

Lord~Soundwave wrote:

Liege Evilmus wrote:Actualy You told it to that other guy when we first started this yesterday.

And I stood up for your ass then as well

I stabed it lol. You know the guy who went crazy on my spelling the otherday for no reason. He pmed me and told me to go have sex with my neighbor???????????

That is something real messed up!

But you know some of these folks have nothing better to do, I keep recomending they go outside and meet some girls that aren't their Moms.

That's what I did with the past few days, it was great!

I'm trying to like it but the more I see the more I get repulsed. Where's "Hammer Man" when you need him? Most likely waiting in the trash for this cartoon.

I'm a G1 fan I think this rocks!!! Though I hate seeing Prime with a mouth AGAIN, it's nice too see old G1 characters like Arcee, Prowl and Bumblebee. Even though they all changed a lot, this is the most promising TF series to come since the second season of G1. I'm more exited about this that I was about the first season of Beast Wars. But Beast Wars turned out great. I'll wait to see if this one turn out as great. I don't mind the childish look. It looks cool and fresh. And it will make great toys for my kids to enjoy.

To all those who hate this because it's not a serious G1 followup: Grow Up! In you mind. We're not in japan here! There isn't a public for adult cartoons here. Just forget it. Or produce it yourself and see your money dissapear!

This series is to be what the "Ultimate Marvel Universe" is to the regular old "Marvel Universe". That being said, here's why (so far) I don't like this new Transformers series.

We can all remember the original series and can probably name what type of vehicle all the bots transformed into. For instance Jazz was a Porcshe GTR, Prowl a (dare I dig up the name) Datsun 280ZX, Silverbolt a Concorde airliner, and Starscream was an F-15C jet fighter.

We identified ourselves with these characters due to their vehicle modes because, at the time, we knew someone that owned one or worked with one, or knew somebody with one, etc. This is also the reason the original series (and toyline) wained eventually here in the States. After the movie jumped our beloved characters 30 years into the future, the vehicle modes became "futuristic" and eventually the we lost a bit of interest... I know I did.

With a new series, I expected something more connected with the movie or updating the vehicles to vehicles now used. Something that kids today can identify with in the here and now and not those bubblegum looking monstrosities.

Some of you are hoping for a tie-in to the original series or "Beast Wars"... Note: The head writer for the series is the visionary of "Beast Machines"... Be afraid... Be very afraid!

Despite my disgust for what I've presently seen of the show, the animation is very tight! I just don't like the bubblegum looks of the characters.

Kryptoniteking wrote:This series is to be what the "Ultimate Marvel Universe" is to the regular old "Marvel Universe". That being said, here's why (so far) I don't like this new Transformers series.

We can all remember the original series and can probably name what type of vehicle all the bots transformed into. For instance Jazz was a Porcshe GTR, Prowl a (dare I dig up the name) Datsun 280ZX, Silverbolt a Concorde airliner, and Starscream was an F-15C jet fighter.

We identified ourselves with these characters due to their vehicle modes because, at the time, we knew someone that owned one or worked with one, or knew somebody with one, etc. This is also the reason the original series (and toyline) wained eventually here in the States. After the movie jumped our beloved characters 30 years into the future, the vehicle modes became "futuristic" and eventually the we lost a bit of interest... I know I did.

With a new series, I expected something more connected with the movie or updating the vehicles to vehicles now used. Something that kids today can identify with in the here and now and not those bubblegum looking monstrosities.

Some of you are hoping for a tie-in to the original series or "Beast Wars"... Note: The head writer for the series is the visionary of "Beast Machines"... Be afraid... Be very afraid!

Despite my disgust for what I've presently seen of the show, the animation is very tight! I just don't like the bubblegum looks of the characters.

Well Said.

I mean, know after the "Alternator" line first appeared and everyone saw Smokescreen as a Subaru WRC rally car, everyone stained their shorts and wondered "when is the animated series coming?"

These last few "new" animated series have been "okay". The only thing that has been good about them has been the serialization of episodes. Hopefully, this new series can draw upon that. But these shows lacked something for us to relate to which were the robots vehicle modes (with exception to Thundercracker who was a Russian Su-27 fighter).

There are so many cool REAL vehicles out there to be used. I think this new show is just a cop-out and laziness on Hasbro and the animation producers. Don't get me wrong I understand the cop-out. If you go back and look at the licensing troubles Dreamworks and Paramount went through to try to stay true to the original G1, you can understand why they accepted General Motors' offer to use nothing but their products representing the Autobots.

That being said, Hasbro has licensing for other automakers because of the Alternator line of toys. It's on the packaging! This is where the animators are just wanting to do something simple and easy. A cop-out. Here's the chance for a U.S. produced TF series again and they go the "cartoony" route.

Again I won't trash it too much I will state elements that I do like.

No more cheap CGI robots! I've seen it done with some animated shows and it was done nicely but the last two series... ICK! This new series is completely cel animation (so to speak)!

The new series animation is good for what it is. I'll give it that.

What I hope is eliminated is the robots announcements of weapons they're going to use just before they use them. That was a pain in the last few series. "Just shoot the damn things!" No more of the stupid "say your name" followed by "transform" before transforming. Not to mention the "super anime background splash" behind the transformation. Totally overused!

I'll give the show a shot but I'm still pretty unimpressed with the show and the toys so far.

Big Convoy wrote:It still sucks, no matter how good the voice actors are in this, the animation is still awful, and the designs scream of Teen Titans & The Batman anime crap.

I think you missed a memo somewhere...because that's exactly what it is.


Nowadays, when it comes to Cartoons, ESP stuff on CN, the animation has to feel unique and be able to grab hold of you. It seems to be a trend of having badly animated shows with seemingly no care in the animation; resulting in very poor quality of shows unless the story is any good.


The vibe this serise gives me is they're trying to do what Tenn Titans did when it was first intorduced. Offer a new style of animation with a story unique to the other half heartedly thought out plots and stories of other shows.


Though the show has me genuinly intrigued and excited, I'll reserve my official judgment until I see the first episode.


And I'm with Jetfire Masta, I don't think Kaye is right for the part. But who knows, maybe he'll grow on me.

And unlike the majority of my peers, I love Bumblebee's voice!!! >.