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Kyleor wrote:william-james88 wrote:The fact that they are called cyber battalion does hint at their origin as cyberverse figures made big. Also guys, these transformations arent crazily simplifies. Combiner Wars Motormaster transforms in only 7 steps while I saw on the boxes of these that some take 7 steps to convert. The big difference is more the detail and articulation to me, not necessarily the complexity.
"7 steps" We'll see when they come out if Hasbro did their new thing of leaving out of steps/moves or combining multiple steps/moves into one unclear one to "reduce" the number of steps.
Madeus Prime wrote:Well, Optimus' vehicle mode is fantastic, bot mode...not so much. Bumblebee and Grimlock are crap looking. Buuuut, Megatron looks promising, still want a better idea of the articulation. Also Starscream is totally being picked up, assuming he has knees.
william-james88 wrote:Madeus Prime wrote:Well, Optimus' vehicle mode is fantastic, bot mode...not so much. Bumblebee and Grimlock are crap looking. Buuuut, Megatron looks promising, still want a better idea of the articulation. Also Starscream is totally being picked up, assuming he has knees.
But doesnt it look exactly like the latest legends Optimus?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Days ago Thought some said. the Cyber series Seven and Eleven refers to the size of these toys. Not the Transformation steps of these toys.
Cobotron wrote:Interesting. Wonder if the Bee art still eludes to something else that is still coming.
That is a good question, and I think it best depends on when they're scheduled for release, since that's what most affected the upscaled Beast Hunters from not all making it to the U.S. Since those toys were due out right before the AOE toys, retailers didn't want any of them other than the two Voyagers, preferring to skip over them and go for the AOE toys.Autobot032 wrote:The thing I'm wondering is, will we see these in the US?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
I would think they would. The "too complex for kids" problem seems to be such a point of contention for the brand. IMO, this is the perfect solution. And, they are so G1-centique that it seems they are aimed at the G1ers who are all late 30s early 40s, and likely have kids. I can't see Hasbro missing out on that cash grab.Sabrblade wrote:That is a good question, and I think it best depends on when they're scheduled for release, since that's what most affected the upscaled Beast Hunters from not all making it to the U.S. Since those toys were due out right before the AOE toys, retailers didn't want any of them other than the two Voyagers, preferring to skip over them and go for the AOE toys.Autobot032 wrote:The thing I'm wondering is, will we see these in the US?
If these Cyber Battalion Series toys come out at a time when there isn't a movie toyline so close to being on its way, then that might give these a better chance for a U.S. release.
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
Sabrblade wrote:That is a good question, and I think it best depends on when they're scheduled for release, since that's what most affected the upscaled Beast Hunters from not all making it to the U.S. Since those toys were due out right before the AOE toys, retailers didn't want any of them other than the two Voyagers, preferring to skip over them and go for the AOE toys.Autobot032 wrote:The thing I'm wondering is, will we see these in the US?
If these Cyber Battalion Series toys come out at a time when there isn't a movie toyline so close to being on its way, then that might give these a better chance for a U.S. release.
Cobotron wrote:I would think they would. The "too complex for kids" problem seems to be such a point of contention for the brand. IMO, this is the perfect solution. And, they are so G1-centique that it seems they are aimed at the G1ers who are all late 30s early 40s, and likely have kids. I can't see Hasbro missing out on that cash grab.Sabrblade wrote:That is a good question, and I think it best depends on when they're scheduled for release, since that's what most affected the upscaled Beast Hunters from not all making it to the U.S. Since those toys were due out right before the AOE toys, retailers didn't want any of them other than the two Voyagers, preferring to skip over them and go for the AOE toys.Autobot032 wrote:The thing I'm wondering is, will we see these in the US?
If these Cyber Battalion Series toys come out at a time when there isn't a movie toyline so close to being on its way, then that might give these a better chance for a U.S. release.
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:I am so geewunned out, I can't even stand it.
Autobot032 wrote:MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:I am so geewunned out, I can't even stand it.
Is...that a good thing or a bad thing?
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Autobot032 wrote:MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:I am so geewunned out, I can't even stand it.
Is...that a good thing or a bad thing?
Bad.
I meant that it is a direct shoulder tap to our nostalgia, and tug at our heart strings to shell out the cash on these for our kids. ("our" being 35 to 45 year olds. I'm in that bracket)Cobotron wrote: it seems they are aimed at the G1ers who are all late 30s early 40s, and likely have kids. I can't see Hasbro missing out on that cash grab.
Agreed. I would love to see the market research data on the Cybertron line. IMO, those are the perfect balance for littler kids. I don't recall hearing any complaints about complexity until around movie era.Autobot032 wrote:See, the complexity issue drives me nuts because they call for simplified transformations and end up going overboard or not enough.
We're singing the same tune brother. She is very Cybertron, with just a little more articulation. Drift IS Hot Shot with WAY BETTER articulation.Strongarm's hit that perfect sweet spot. She has the perfect balance to the point where you can transform her fast, but still end up with both modes being solid and no articulation had to be sacrificed.
I have him and for a legion class he is precisely ridiculous.Legion Class Bumblebee? He's like a plastic piece of origami. I don't know if you've seen Peaugh's video review, but the head has to go through the windshield (I believe) and it looks a bit ridiculous.
Sorry. Are you referring to the legion class here. Please clarify?If they want childish complexity, do childish complexity, not this halfassed "still too much for little ones" middle complexity that drives people crazy. "It's too simple for me, very cheaty." "It's just one or two steps too much for my son/daughter."
That's why I think these would be so great for kids. Even as young as 3. These would have that nice learning curve. If they are a little complex, they can ask Mom or Dad for help, and then there is interaction going on with parent and child. Novel eh?These Cyber Series figures seem to have that sweet spot thing going on.
3 step, 2 step, half steppin'. These step toys are definitly...tell them to click this link or tap this app picture, we've taken out all of the learning and just given them instant gratification.
on autopilot.
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
-Kanrabat- wrote:MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Autobot032 wrote:MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:I am so geewunned out, I can't even stand it.
Is...that a good thing or a bad thing?
Bad.
I joined the forums just to make fun of those kinds of people but honestly I do hate these comment sections. Someone should make a chrome extension to remove them. That'd be helpful.CrankyOldTruck wrote:The toy line itself is excellent.
Those of you bitching about the half-dozen things that you seem to think are wrong with toys intended for 5 YEAR OLDS can take a long walk off a very short pier.
Seriously, you guys are dicks! I'd love to see even one of you walk up to a child, pull the toy from his hand and say "Dude, this thing is a piece of crap! You shouldn't be playing with this" and toss it in the trash. Honestly, that's the mentality you people have when you start verbally bashing on toys meant for little children on a public site so you might want to think about how you are coming across to the rest of society when you start ragging on these toys. I know 3 people off the top off my head who wont have anything to do with this site because of this very issue.
Cobotron wrote:Just to clarify. When I said this...I meant that it is a direct shoulder tap to our nostalgia, and tug at our heart strings to shell out the cash on these for our kids. ("our" being 35 to 45 year olds. I'm in that bracket)Cobotron wrote: it seems they are aimed at the G1ers who are all late 30s early 40s, and likely have kids. I can't see Hasbro missing out on that cash grab.
Cobotron wrote:Agreed. I would love to see the market research data on the Cybertron line. IMO, those are the perfect balance for littler kids. I don't recall hearing any complaints about complexity until around movie era.Autobot032 wrote:See, the complexity issue drives me nuts because they call for simplified transformations and end up going overboard or not enough.We're singing the same tune brother. She is very Cybertron, with just a little more articulation. Drift IS Hot Shot with WAY BETTER articulation.Strongarm's hit that perfect sweet spot. She has the perfect balance to the point where you can transform her fast, but still end up with both modes being solid and no articulation had to be sacrificed.
Cobotron wrote:I have him and for a legion class he is precisely ridiculous.Legion Class Bumblebee? He's like a plastic piece of origami. I don't know if you've seen Peaugh's video review, but the head has to go through the windshield (I believe) and it looks a bit ridiculous.
Cobotron wrote:Sorry. Are you referring to the legion class here. Please clarify?If they want childish complexity, do childish complexity, not this halfassed "still too much for little ones" middle complexity that drives people crazy. "It's too simple for me, very cheaty." "It's just one or two steps too much for my son/daughter."![]()
Cobotron wrote:That's why I think these would be so great for kids. Even as young as 3. These would have that nice learning curve. If they are a little complex, they can ask Mom or Dad for help, and then there is interaction going on with parent and child. Novel eh?These Cyber Series figures seem to have that sweet spot thing going on.3 step, 2 step, half steppin'. These step toys are definitly...tell them to click this link or tap this app picture, we've taken out all of the learning and just given them instant gratification.on autopilot.
Cobotron wrote:So, I hope this Cyber line is released in North America. Because I kind of think Uncle Hasby has found the answer to his problem.
Noideaforaname wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Autobot032 wrote:MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:I am so geewunned out, I can't even stand it.
Is...that a good thing or a bad thing?
Bad.
Can't speak for MartianSpyGirl, but after all these sub and sub-sub-sub lines I'm real tired of seeing the same faces again and again. Yet another Optimus, yet another Megatron/Starscream/Bumblebee, etc. and the inevitable Ironhide, Prowl, Soundwave -- all based on their classic G1 versions instead of any of the newer ones OR even a different character with that same name...
Kinda like seeing Daleks, Cybermen, and Weeping Angels in every single season of Doctor Who.
Have to wonder how many sub-lines the brand can support. It's one thing to have really varied types of lines (i.e. Cyberverse, Hero Mashers, Kre-O) but it feels like we've gotten a dozen takes on "easy to transform" now.
CrankyOldTruck wrote:The toy line itself is excellent.
Those of you bitching about the half-dozen things that you seem to think are wrong with toys intended for 5 YEAR OLDS can take a long walk off a very short pier.
Seriously, you guys are dicks! I'd love to see even one of you walk up to a child, pull the toy from his hand and say "Dude, this thing is a piece of crap! You shouldn't be playing with this" and toss it in the trash. Honestly, that's the mentality you people have when you start verbally bashing on toys meant for little children on a public site so you might want to think about how you are coming across to the rest of society when you start ragging on these toys. I know 3 people off the top off my head who wont have anything to do with this site because of this very issue.
william-james88 wrote:The fact that they are called cyber battalion does hint at their origin as cyberverse figures made big. Also guys, these transformations arent crazily simplifies. Combiner Wars Motormaster transforms in only 7 steps while I saw on the boxes of these that some take 7 steps to convert. The big difference is more the detail and articulation to me, not necessarily the complexity.
"I'm sorry Charlie you can't have transformers figures we're too poor to pay $50 for a deluxe class figure. You'll just have to go without."MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:CrankyOldTruck wrote:The toy line itself is excellent.
Those of you bitching about the half-dozen things that you seem to think are wrong with toys intended for 5 YEAR OLDS can take a long walk off a very short pier.
Seriously, you guys are dicks! I'd love to see even one of you walk up to a child, pull the toy from his hand and say "Dude, this thing is a piece of crap! You shouldn't be playing with this" and toss it in the trash. Honestly, that's the mentality you people have when you start verbally bashing on toys meant for little children on a public site so you might want to think about how you are coming across to the rest of society when you start ragging on these toys. I know 3 people off the top off my head who wont have anything to do with this site because of this very issue.
So kids don't deserve to have quality toys? Yeah, okay...
BlueBefore wrote:"I'm sorry Charlie you can't have transformers figures we're too poor to pay $50 for a deluxe class figure. You'll just have to go without."MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:CrankyOldTruck wrote:The toy line itself is excellent.
Those of you bitching about the half-dozen things that you seem to think are wrong with toys intended for 5 YEAR OLDS can take a long walk off a very short pier.
Seriously, you guys are dicks! I'd love to see even one of you walk up to a child, pull the toy from his hand and say "Dude, this thing is a piece of crap! You shouldn't be playing with this" and toss it in the trash. Honestly, that's the mentality you people have when you start verbally bashing on toys meant for little children on a public site so you might want to think about how you are coming across to the rest of society when you start ragging on these toys. I know 3 people off the top off my head who wont have anything to do with this site because of this very issue.
So kids don't deserve to have quality toys? Yeah, okay...
Well, new stuff is what the motion picture based lines like RID and the movie lines are for. Generations and such are the nostalgia-based lines while the motion picture based lines are the outlet for newer things.MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Noideaforaname wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Autobot032 wrote:MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:I am so geewunned out, I can't even stand it.
Is...that a good thing or a bad thing?
Bad.
Can't speak for MartianSpyGirl, but after all these sub and sub-sub-sub lines I'm real tired of seeing the same faces again and again. Yet another Optimus, yet another Megatron/Starscream/Bumblebee, etc. and the inevitable Ironhide, Prowl, Soundwave -- all based on their classic G1 versions instead of any of the newer ones OR even a different character with that same name...
Kinda like seeing Daleks, Cybermen, and Weeping Angels in every single season of Doctor Who.
Have to wonder how many sub-lines the brand can support. It's one thing to have really varied types of lines (i.e. Cyberverse, Hero Mashers, Kre-O) but it feels like we've gotten a dozen takes on "easy to transform" now.
Oh wow, nailed it. Explained my opinion better than I could have!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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