The Energon Pub

[vectorA3]

make sure to take that with you when you go to the airport for a flight!

[gingermoney]

hi i think this is my first post in the knockoff thread so hi
i just wanna say that usually i cant stand knock offs unless they're GIGANTIC or just over sized then ill get them. the only problem is i cant find any BIG ones in england so if anyone knows where to try please message me

thanks in advance.

[capellamusic]

Be careful when buying G1 KOs on ioffer because there's a thief selling them for very good prices and then sending wrong items (e.g. pens) to people by EMS (I suppose he does that so that he can say to PayPal that he sent the items). That seller started with the account 'kuanling23s', then after emptying all the items for sale he created another store with a similar name and now he created another one. We can see it is the same person because the descriptions are the same, he always has 1 positive feedback in the beginning and answers speaking in the same way as if he didn't know english well.

kuanling23s feedback: http://www.ioffer.com/ratings/kuanling23s?exclude_removed=true&full_sort=rating+desc+%2C+updated_on+desc&include_list=offer_transaction&order=desc&page=2&show_only=seller&sort=rating&user_id=kuanling23s

Current store: http://www.ioffer.com/i/Classics-Transformers-G1-Spotlight-Shockwave-KO-Reissue-109663825

For those who believed, like me... let us all open a dispute on ioffer and contact PayPal by doing the following to get a refund:

http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/buyer-complaint-outside

I'm expecting the worst when I receive my package on Friday... I'll take photos to show to PayPal if needed. And I'm wondering if I'm also going to receive a pen just like that person who already gave feedback to the seller...

Yes, I feel like an idiot for having believed in this seller. It sounded fishy from the beginning because the prices were very good compared to the other sellers. But he answered everything and it seemed to be real.

I'll write here again on Friday after receiving the package and confirming if I was actually deceived just like others were.

Anyway, this is a warn to everyone not to buy from this seller... If was deceived I hope I'll get my money back from PayPal .

[ZoneDaiatlas]

Capellamusic, I afraid that you were con by this seller and there is nothing you or anybody else can do against this seller. I'm assuming that this seller is from China that is why I always avoid buying things from there online. The sellers can't be trusted over...

[capellamusic]

Capellamusic, I afraid that you were con by this seller and there is nothing you or anybody else can do against this seller. I'm assuming that this seller is from China that is why I always avoid buying things from there online. The sellers can't be trusted over...

Yeah, I'm afraid it really seems I was con by that seller as were many more... he is in fact from China. But there are many good sellers from there, and I know some of those.

But I think we may be able to get our money back. I have a friend who once received a graphics card which was damaged, he filed a claim with PayPal and was able to get a refund. And that is harder to prove than this. So, I guess that if we fill a claim on PayPal and open a dispute on ioffer we may be able to get back our money. I'm going to document well everything upon receiving the package to use as proof with PayPal. I'm going to take detailed pics, possibly also film the opening of the package. And then I'll provide them with all the invoices and emails, plus the messages at ioffer, which are visible to everyone (and I assume ioffer can see even the private ones). I'll contact the seller both by email and ioffer. And that way I can show them that he didn't answer to me. I already sent a message yesterday and he didn't say anything. Also, on PayPal it says that when we fill a claim if the seller don't answer they will give us reason and a refund.

Well, I just hope everyone gets their money back and the guy should go to jail, although I don't know if they can catch them. But I guess they'll have access to his address through PayPal because I guess he must receive the money on his bank account. That may help to get him.

[capellamusic]

By checking on my browser's history I was able to find the other store from the con seller on ioffer, it is 'ssmingl2':

http://www.ioffer.com/ratings/ssmingl2

We'll probably start seeing negative feedback sooner or later.

[SirToys]

he is in fact from China

was there a originating address on the packing slip? what city was he from?

[SirToys]

unless they're GIGANTIC or just over sized then ill get them. the only problem is i cant find any BIG ones in england so if anyone knows where to try please message me

yeah, I prefer ko's that are oversized, undersized or retooled or coloured in some wacky way, a plain old copy isn't as interesting

you can get ko's here, I meet the guy before in China,

More group shots of my collection

[Gauntlet101010]

Oh, sweet! Just look at all those KOs. Thanks for the tip.

And that's a nice KO collection you have too. I agree on the sentiment, although I disliked oddly colored KOs myself.

[vectorA3]

pastel Skylynx??? wth???

[capellamusic]

he is in fact from China

was there a originating address on the packing slip? what city was he from?

I've received the damn pen... Everyone who bought from that seller in one of his accounts be ready to receive a stupid pen...

Yes, and it is different from his address on the invoice. The one on the invoice says he's from:

liangyue zhang
120,xiangyang,panjin city,liaoning
Panjin 124010, China

while the one on the package (it is actually a cushioned envelope) reads:

Meiliantong
Xingren co.ltd
Huyigonglu 2623 2-104
China

[ChrisR291]

So with everyone that has brought KO's..... Are these worth buying?

1. Shockwave
2. Mirage
3. Reflector

I just ordered a wheeljack from t800pro and it should be here by friday. This guy seems like a good seller on ioffer based on his feedback from the tfw2005 boards. The box is probably going to be banged up but what can you expect? Its coming from China.

I hope this Wheeljack KO is good quality, everyone that has purchased one seems happy with the quality.

[capellamusic]

So with everyone that has brought KO's..... Are these worth buying?

1. Shockwave
2. Mirage
3. Reflector

I just ordered a wheeljack from t800pro and it should be here by friday. This guy seems like a good seller on ioffer based on his feedback from the tfw2005 boards. The box is probably going to be banged up but what can you expect? Its coming from China.

I hope this Wheeljack KO is good quality, everyone that has purchased one seems happy with the quality.

I have Mirage and Reflector and they're excelent. I bought Mirage and Wheeljack from t800pro, he is a good seller, although not perfect because he sent me a perfect sealed Mirage but Wheeljack was out of the plastic bubble and missing accessories, but he sent me the missing accessories without problems.

Wheeljack is also excelent.

[ChrisR291]

So with everyone that has brought KO's..... Are these worth buying?

1. Shockwave
2. Mirage
3. Reflector

I just ordered a wheeljack from t800pro and it should be here by friday. This guy seems like a good seller on ioffer based on his feedback from the tfw2005 boards. The box is probably going to be banged up but what can you expect? Its coming from China.

I hope this Wheeljack KO is good quality, everyone that has purchased one seems happy with the quality.

I have Mirage and Reflector and they're excelent. I bought Mirage and Wheeljack from t800pro, he is a good seller, although not perfect because he sent me a perfect sealed Mirage but Wheeljack was out of the plastic bubble and missing accessories, but he sent me the missing accessories without problems.

Wheeljack is also excelent.

Thanks man! I might buy Mirage and Reflector then

[ZoneDaiatlas]

he is in fact from China

was there a originating address on the packing slip? what city was he from?

I've received the damn pen... Everyone who bought from that seller in one of his accounts be ready to receive a stupid pen...

Yes, and it is different from his address on the invoice. The one on the invoice says he's from:

liangyue zhang
120,xiangyang,panjin city,liaoning
Panjin 124010, China

while the one on the package (it is actually a cushioned envelope) reads:

Meiliantong
Xingren co.ltd
Huyigonglu 2623 2-104
China

Capellamusic, Have you contact the seller? I would loved to hear his explanation for sending you a pen instead of the KO figure you bid on...

[capellamusic]

Capellamusic, Have you contact the seller? I would loved to hear his explanation for sending you a pen instead of the KO figure you bid on...

Yes I did, he didn't answer neither my emails nor messages on ioffer... When making the order he answered very fast, but after that stopped answering.

[SirToys]

and it is different from his address on the invoice

The shipping company will know exactly who he is. usually in China if you want to ship something, you call a shipping company, and they send someone to your door to pick it up. I shipped a bunch of stuff back while I was there, and that's what they did. any shipping company info on the package?

Searching Xing ren co. ltd found other complaints
Searching "Hu Yi Gong Lu" found this map
Google Maps of xiangyang panjin city liaoning but probably not his/her real address.

[capellamusic]

The SOB created a new account at ioffer: mdaytoda8 . Be careful! I've written on his TFs auctions informing people not to buy, please also do that, at least those who got con by him like me. This is the same as kuanling23s as I previously reported.

[capellamusic]

The shipping company will know exactly who he is. usually in China if you want to ship something, you call a shipping company, and they send someone to your door to pick it up. I shipped a bunch of stuff back while I was there, and that's what they did. any shipping company info on the package?

Searching Xing ren co. ltd found other complaints
Searching "Hu Yi Gong Lu" found this map
Google Maps of xiangyang panjin city liaoning but probably not his/her real address.

The package was sent by China EMS, is that it?

Thanks for the help, I'll take a look at those links later.

[capellamusic]

OMG, this is getting more and more out of control. The damn bastard seems to be changing his new con accounts. I came across another strange account, which copied the listings from t800pro (from whom I bought before). This new one is radley. Please be careful, he seems to be the same con seller. Besides having copied from t800pro, he copied wrongly some titles, and for instance take a look at the Reflactor one with the Shockwave title which already has one person asking him for prices and he wrote sentences just like the con seller in strange english with similar contents, and prices too good to be true.

The guy is like a damn virus, he's adapting.

I've sent this info to ioffer.

[skywarp-2]

Knockoff Titanium Soundwave in trippy colors.

http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/item ... 0595.jhtml

Knockoff movie Leader Prime:

http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/item ... e405.jhtml





Knockoff movie Voyager Blackout in jungle and arctic camo.

http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/item ... 8f65.jhtml

Knockoff movie Voyager Rescue Ratchet:

http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/item ... ccc9.jhtml





Simplified Supreme Bumblebee:

http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/item ... 4e82.jhtml



Alternators Jazz/Meister in Movie Jazz colors:

http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/item ... 5fc4.jhtml

Knockoff Masterpiece Optimus Prime:

http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/item ... 958d.jhtml





Knockoff Classic Astrotrain:

http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/item ... 3eff.jhtml



Knockoff Classic Megatron in G1 colors and Decepticon purple wings:

http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/item ... 846d.jhtml

the only thing that would interest me about the Masterpiece Optimus Prime KO, is whether or not the tires are Molded Plastic on the chrome rims, or are they rubber.. if they are plastic, I would buy a KO MP just for the wheels, so my original MP Prime's tires can be replaced with ones that will not degrade over the life of the toy..

shoot, if they were smart, they should convert themselves into a company that will supply replacement parts for real Transformers with rubber..Or silver plastic molded parts that can replace the chromed flaky parts of other figures..

[tonybrave]

Oversize KO Soundwave with Laserbeak & Ravage.

Hi! I bought last week an oversize soundwave twin cassettes from an ebay-seller, chimungmung, whom website previous hosted at ebay, now with its own website chimungmung.com. I trade with him three times and this is my first time to buy from this new website. I think he is reliable with quick delivery.

The toy costs US$24 via airmail, in a walkman size like my SONY childhood one. The plastic material is quite solid and the joint is tight. The biggest surprise is the eject button really function, and all stickers are almost like the original one. Besides, there are two cassettes laserbeak & ravage. Though ravage is lack of feet joint but the shape is still nice. The laserbeak is great with its size best fit to the arm of MP megatron. I amazing oversize soundwave can fight with blaster, they size very close in animate. overall very satisfied this ko oversize soundwave .

[vectorA3]

i like that oversized SW a lot. Everything except the fat cassette door sticking out. I'd love to get one still.

[SirToys]

Oversize G1 Soundwave is awesome! I got mine from Mike at kotoys

With Undersize Predaking



With Puzou Ultra Magnus

[Gauntlet101010]

This picture is hillarious. I can see the two just standing there, unwilling to get closer, and blinding waving their fistats around, trying to hit something.

That oversized Soundwave is pretty awsome, though. And Lazerbeak definately makes a good accessory for MP Megs.