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Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:50 am

The next trilogy can be set in the same universe. Let the new director kill off all of the old characters and bring on Rodimus and Ultra Magnus and galvatron. It could totally work. :-?

News Credits: 226 · Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:52 am

You know what I liked about G1?

It was original and not a rehash of stuff done 25 years ago.

News Credits: 241 · Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:01 am

warwik311 wrote:The next trilogy can be set in the same universe. Let the new director kill off all of the old characters and bring on Rodimus and Ultra Magnus and galvatron. It could totally work.

I take it you haven't experienced the trauma of our hero Optimus Prime being killed off permanently in the original movie (until Season 3's The Return of Optimus Prime that is). He is not Kenny from South Park you know

Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:07 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I take it you haven't experienced the trauma of our hero Optimus Prime being killed off permanently in the original movie (until Season 3's The Return of Optimus Prime that is). He is not Kenny from South Park you know

Lately he kinda is... ever since 1986 he's died in almost every continuity. When can we have an official continuity where Prime lives the whole time?

News Credits: 37 · Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:35 pm

HoundimusPrime wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I take it you haven't experienced the trauma of our hero Optimus Prime being killed off permanently in the original movie (until Season 3's The Return of Optimus Prime that is). He is not Kenny from South Park you know

Lately he kinda is... ever since 1986 he's died in almost every continuity. When can we have an official continuity where Prime lives the whole time?

Never.

Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:45 pm

He lived through Robots in Disguise, at least.

Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:58 pm

HoundimusPrime wrote:When can we have an official continuity where Prime lives the whole time?

Robots in Disguise
Cybertron
Animated(?)
Prime (So far)

News Credits: 104 · Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:02 pm

warwik311 wrote:The next trilogy can be set in the same universe. Let the new director kill off all of the old characters and bring on Rodimus and Ultra Magnus and galvatron. It could totally work.

Nah, I think we could do better than that...

Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:08 pm

Wing Saber II wrote:
HoundimusPrime wrote:When can we have an official continuity where Prime lives the whole time?

Robots in Disguise
Cybertron
Animated(?)
Prime (So far)

He died in Armada, which counts for all of the UT.
He died in Animated....for 75 seconds....

And i wouldn't put it past Prime.

RiD is the only continuity where prime never died once.

Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:23 am

Burn wrote:You know what I liked about G1?

It was original and not a rehash of stuff done 25 years ago.

Anyways...am I the only one who didn't like the 86 movie all that much? Well, that's inaccurate, I did like some parts, but it wasn't super-amazing or anything.
The movieverse, only without all the surviving characters, and then set in the G1 world seems like it wouldn't work to me.
Plus, what's the point of killing Optimus AGAIN...?

Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:57 pm

Anyways...am I the only one who didn't like the 86 movie all that much?

NO! You're not alone. I hated it with the burning fury of a thousand suns as a kid. I disliked much of the 86 film, and 3rd season that followed growing up. Basically mowing down all characters I like and replacing them with mostly more annoying knock offs...didn't go over well for me. (for more of my views of the 86 film ..check this hehe viewtopic.php?f=27&t=49426&start=0 )

I disliked seeing Ironhide getting killed in Dotm as it was opening old wounds.(It wasn't a bad death, as he had a moment fo glory before he passed, but I just wished see him survive the entire trilogy. He dies too often for my taste.) It really sapped my enjoyment of the film. He was always one of my favorites, and the movieverse Ironhide was one of the coolest versions yet.

I got nervous when prime said one shall stand...one shall fall in the first film. When the Forest battle ensued, I don't think I was breathing the entire fight as I was literally on the edge of my seat. Just when I thought Prime made it "out of the woods" Megatron runs him thru...Like Holy crap! They did it to me again. I was like calm down Mike...Jet-Optimus will be formed at the end of the film..only a Prime can defeat the fallen..he has come back.

Yeah I'm a grown adult, but when I watch these films, my inner 6 year old is what comes out. That part of me HATES seeing Optimus Prime, or old favorites buy the farm. I expect see a few fall along the way, but I NEVER want to see series go all 86 on the autobots like that again.

I like if death has to happen, it has some meaning as shock value cheap deaths are a great way alienate fans. I can't expect them all go out in a blaze of glory like Dinobot, but I want characters to be given something better than what 86 gave most of them. If we are going have see a bunch of autobots or Decepticons fall left and right...make fodder or unnamed background ones. (or make homages to gobots to kill hehe.)

Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:31 am

I say why not do something original for once? I'm tired of them rehashing the same old Autobots & Decepticons getting stranded on earth, be-friend a few humans, blah blah blah. That's part of the reason I'm not all that excited for TF: Prime. I like the show but it's hard for me to get into it because it's basically the same storyline as G1 with updated characters and forms. I love G1 but there's no point in re-telling the same story over and over again. It worked better with the movies because we'd never seen a live-action version of Transformers so it's almost a companion piece to G1 in that regards. I think for the future though they really need to start shaking things up a bit. I was stoked over War for Cybertron but at the end they pack up and head for earth meaning that the sequel will probably be yet ANOTHER version of the G1 storyline of them crashing, meeting humans, etc. I'm tired of it. Beast Wars and Beast Machines were fresh. They continued the G1 storyline while creating something original. Since the films started every new cartoon/videogame/whatever has been the same premise as G1. I know I'm rambling but it's something I feel pretty passionate about. I want to see something original if they continue the films- not another regurgitation of G1 (with the 86 movie and 3rd season characters at that). Let them do something else- take it into space, let the surviving Transformers deal with a new threat. Anyways, just my opinon. Thanks for reading.

News Credits: 2 · Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:40 pm

I'd be happy with a reboot that's a recreation of the G1 pilot.

Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:58 am

How about something like this, then:

Optimus Prime leads his troops in a space-battle against the Decepticons. Meanwhile, the 'Cons discover a signal on a nearby planet(Earth)(unknown to them, it's the signal of a long lost Cybertronian craft, that carried the Map of Primus, which leads to the Vector Sigma, and a key to activate it) and send some troops there. Autobots find out about this and begin a counter-mission. However, Optimus cannot leave his troops and sends a team of Autobots, led by his old friend Ultra Magnus, to stop the Decepticons and protect human-kind.

Both Shockwave and Magnus communicate with their respective leaders in space. Also, Autobots befriend some humans, who help them fight the 'Cons and find the missing cruiser.

Autobots:
Ultra Magnus (Team leader)
Hot Rod (Scout-Warrior)
Wheeljack (Scientist)
First Aid (Medic)
Chromia (Warrior-SIC)
Longarm (Construction worker-Warrior)

Decepticons:
Shockwave (Team leader)
Starscream (Air patrol-SIC)
Shadowstriker (Scout-Assassin)
Octane (Warrior)
SixShot (Medic-Scientist)
Drones (Scout-Warrior-Medic assistant)(There are multible versions: ground-based, water-based and air-based)

Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:01 pm

When you try to copy the source material of a good cartoon directly, you get something like The Last Airbender. I liked the Avatar cartoon and watched the movie on a dare. That's 100 minutes of my life that I'll never get back. In short don't ask for a G1 movie. You'll regret it no matter who's directing because straight adaptations of the source material universally suck.

Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:18 pm

Sorry, but I don't quite follow what you just said. I'm a bit slow on mind right now.

EDIT: And for the record, I didn't copy what I wrote. I tried to think all possibilities for it to be as original as I could. Even considered Sunstorm instead of Starscream. And I didn't mention children, did I?

Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:21 pm

I think if the next 3 movies loosely followed the 86 movie it would be pretty cool. The first would take place mostly on Earth when Galvatron attacks The Autobots forcing them to flee the planet to spare the lives of the humans. The second movie would be in space where the Autobots are trying to regroup and there they learn of Unicron. The third movie would have Unicron approaching Earth and the Autobots fighting against him to save the planet.

I wouldn't kill everyone off like the original did, or have Rodimus replace Optimus. Galvatron would be a new character. Possibly Megatron's former second in command who Megatron exiled on a barren planet or something for trying to overthrow him.

News Credits: 2 · Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:04 am

Capt.Failure wrote:When you try to copy the source material of a good cartoon directly, you get something like The Last Airbender. I liked the Avatar cartoon and watched the movie on a dare. That's 100 minutes of my life that I'll never get back. In short don't ask for a G1 movie. You'll regret it no matter who's directing because straight adaptations of the source material universally suck.

The Problem with TLAB was the same thing that wrong with the Transformers movie franchise and that's Pretentious, blowhard directors who can't direct there way out of a paper bag. I know There are a lot of thing in G1 that was complete BS but the spirit of made transformers special was there.