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News Credits: 1 · by **durroth** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:46 pm

thundercracker... wow, that is a *heavy* remold. Really he'd be better as a voyager, and I would have loved to have this version of the seekers in voyager clas, but I love thundercracker so I might end up with this figure. I'm not sure however that I would buy three of this remold however, because 50$ each is steep candy for the seeker trio, so it'll be awkward if that's in their planning. I'd ditch the leg guns though, and maybe mold 5mm ports onto the upper arms.

Huffer is an unfortunate victim of mold overuse and it's just the wrong mold. Alt mode isn't bad but altogether it's still a bit too optimus. could do without the roof scoop/shoulderpads altogether, and maybe retool the legs but you're pretty much stuck with that opening/closing chest that just doesn't cut the gravy.

News Credits: 2 · by **BERSEKAEL** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 11:27 pm

huffer... ugly, wrong mold for him

but that thundercrackes is very good, a lot of real re mold going on there

News Credits: 1 · by **durroth** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 11:50 pm

Right? It took me a moment to realize it wasn't the legends version. Still gonna be a BIG thundercracker, but as long as we don't get leader class skywarp and starscream I'm okay with that, and so is my wallet.

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:22 am

*looks at pictures over and over and over again*

Well, the Aerialbots are a cheaper alternative to TFC's version, saving HUNDREDS of dollars, but on the flipside, we have to have a 3rd party finish the set for us now... (I'm sure Hasbro will come along with a G1 accurate set to milk the molds dry.)

The Aerialbots do look a bit...off. Still, they're quite serviceable.

I have FansProject's Menasor and nothing tops it for me, so Hasbro's is out. (Ugh.)
Optimus still looks bad. BAD. Zero interest in him and I see now that my money spent on ToyWorld's Orion was the right choice. (Probably my favorite Optimus mold, ever.)

I'm surprised by the packaging and it's darker tone. I'm impressed that Hasbro went that route and that they even show Autobots and Decepticons forming a combiner, that's pretty cool.

That said, Combiner Wars is a mixed bag for me and probably not one I'll be opening much.

Now, onto Thundercracker... I like the shoulder and chest remold, I really do, but to make a redeco/repaint out of a Leader Class mold? Wow. I can't imagine it's going to sell well, at least not to kids, so I kinda hope they made it in limited numbers.

2015 isn't a complete mess, though.... Robots In Disguise is coming and it's showing promise.

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:39 am

durroth wrote:thundercracker... wow, that is a *heavy* remold. Really he'd be better as a voyager, and I would have loved to have this version of the seekers in voyager clas, but I love thundercracker so I might end up with this figure. I'm not sure however that I would buy three of this remold however, because 50$ each is steep candy for the seeker trio, so it'll be awkward if that's in their planning. I'd ditch the leg guns though, and maybe mold 5mm ports onto the upper arms.

Huffer is an unfortunate victim of mold overuse and it's just the wrong mold. Alt mode isn't bad but altogether it's still a bit too optimus. could do without the roof scoop/shoulderpads altogether, and maybe retool the legs but you're pretty much stuck with that opening/closing chest that just doesn't cut the gravy.

I have two versions of that mold and the chest bit doesn't work right on either of them. FYI to those wondering, it was said at BotCon that Prime/Motormaster have a front/back thing going on so you're right there.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:51 am

In addition to the official images and first look from the floor for the Generations line, pretty much all under the Combiner Wars banner for the next waves, NYCC 2014 brings us a breakdown of the various Transformers figure classes being released by Hasbro - and it looks like everything combines with everything else, Leader class excluded. Check them out below!

TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS COMBINER WARS LEGENDS Assortment
(Ages: 8 & up /Approx. Retail Price: $9.99/Available: Spring 2015)
THE TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS COMBINER WARS LEGENDS assortment features classic TRANSFORMERS, re-imagined for the present day. Featuring the simplest conversion in the TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS line, these figures are the perfect introduction for kids ready to move up to the more sophisticated world of TRANSFORMERS Generations. They're also detailed enough to appeal to the most hardcore collector. Each figure can convert into a weapon or accessory for a TRANSFORMERS COMBINER figure (sold separately) and includes a Collector Card inspired by the TRANSFORMERS LEGENDS mobile game from DeNA. Figures in 2015 include HUFFER and BLACKJACK. Each sold separately.

TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS COMBINER WARS DELUXE Assortment
(Ages: 8 & up /Approx. Retail Price: $16.99/Available: Spring 2015)
Each TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS COMBINER WARS DELUXE figure can be combined with three other DELUXE figures, one VOYAGER figure, and LEGENDS figures to form a larger TRANSFORMERS COMBINER robot. Each Deluxe figure is based on a classic TRANSFORMERS character and converts from vehicle to robot form, as well as into an arm or a leg of a larger COMBINER robot. Interchangeable parts allow you to create your own figure from any combination of COMBINER WARS LEGENDS, DELUXE, and VOYAGER. Each figure features incredible detail, classic style and conversion for a premium look and feel. 16 DELUXE figures will be available in 2015, each sold separately. Each Deluxe figure sold in the U.S. includes a full-size, full-length issue of IDW Publishing’s TRANSFORMERS: COMBINER WARS comic book series with an exclusive cover. Those figures sold outside of the U.S. include a Collector Card.

TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS COMBINER WARS VOYAGER Assortment
(Ages: 8 & up /Approx. Retail Price: $24.99/Available: May 2015)
Each TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS COMBINER WARS DELUXE figure converts from robot to vehicle and also can be combined with four DELUXE figures and LEGEND figures (each sold separately) to form a larger TRANSFORMERS COMBINER robot. Interchangeable parts allow you to create your own figure from any combination of COMBINER WARS LEGENDS, DELUXE, and VOYAGER. Each VOYAGER scale figure is based on a classic TRANSFORMERS character and includes a Collector Card inspired by the TRANSFORMERS LEGENDS mobile game from DeNA. Each sold separately.

TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS COMBINER WARS LEADER Assortment
(Ages: 8 & up /Approx. Retail Price: $44.99/Available: Spring 2015)
The TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS line reaches its high point with TRANSFORMERS Generations Leader class figures! The most powerful and legendary characters are rendered in incredible detail and with impressive conversions. Each large, feature-packed LEADER scale action figure is based on a classic TRANSFORMERS character and features a firing projectile, massive weaponry and working vehicle features. Each figure sold separately and includes a Collector Card inspired by the TRANSFORMERS LEGENDS mobile game from DeNA.

by **frogbat** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:54 am

Pity re huffer, I have a new found interest in smaller classes since I got metroplex. Besides going well with the big bot, think I was impressed enough with the engineering and detail of scamper yo feel I was missing out a bit. Anyways, a new mould woulve been nice.

Thunder cracker works well, tho he is perhaps one of the few iterations of a a size appropriate to his jet form, i think I'll be sticking with my deluxe seekers. Jet fire was at least meant to tower over the others. The retool works very well though and took me a few seconds to realise it was a jetfire retool when I saw the thumbnail. obviously the cost is a big issue cos...

I know I'll be spending a lot of money on those frickin combiners. Even prime looks tempting there,

by **BumbleDouche** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 1:05 am

Nooooooo! They gave Thundercracker that wretched movie-verse Decepticon logo :BOOM:

News Credits: 8 · by **Megatron Wolf** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 1:07 am

$17 for a deluxe this is getting out of hand, i barely buy anything now because of these idiotic prices. If their goal is to alienate people its working, im one price hike away from abandoning this toyline completely.

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 1:10 am

16 Deluxes... 4 combiners. I'm betting a portion of those will be redecos/remolds. Yay.

3rd party to the rescue!

News Credits: 112 · by **megatronus** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:04 am

To all those hating on Thundercracker's Leader size, please keep in mind:

(1) Generations Leaders are closer to Universe Ultra in size (i.e. shorter than the ROTF Leaders)
(2) We are also getting a Generations Leader Megatron, so TC should fit in with Megatron nicely

That's not to say I'm super happy with the fact that TC is Leader-sized (I would have rather seen a healthy voyager that could more directly compete with iGear's Raptor Squadron), but I am saying that the size is acceptable, IMHO.

News Credits: 112 · by **megatronus** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:12 am

Autobot032 wrote:16 Deluxes... 4 combiners. I'm betting a portion of those will be redecos/remolds. Yay.

3rd party to the rescue!

Well yea, except one of the voyagers is Optimus... so 3 combiners, plus Optimus Super Mode? 8-}

I wonder who the 4th Voyager will be.

by **Nemesis Maximo** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:48 am

I reay like that Thundercracker. So different, uet so similar. I'm just not sure if I want a leader class version of him in my Decepticon collection.

And Huffer... I'm...not sure how I feel. It looks good, but it also looks like somebody put Huffer's had on Optimus's body.

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:59 am

Well, that Thundercracker was kinda out of left field. It works, though, and I'm glad we actually have a jet-former who's relatively in scale with Deluxe cars. Having a jet-former be a Deluxe just...doesn't work (unless you're putting them with Legends figures). Also, I really hope that shiny finish he seems to have is on the actual toy.

Would have preferred Skywarp but oh well.

Huffer looks pretty cool, I might very well get him.

News Credits: 1 · by **Sodan-1** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:00 am

I'd love to know what made them choose Thundercracker. Seems very left-field. That said seeing that figure in blue, and with the original white mold and abundance of upcoming Aerialbots in mind, I'm wondering about the potential for a custom G1 Dreadwind and Darkwing.

Meanwhile these Legends figures are really starting to annoy me. Every time I successfully talk myself out of getting involved with them Hasbro go and reveal yet another Minibot. :-x

I don't have the money right now to go back and collect an entire line of figures I've been trying to ignore.

News Credits: 1 · by **RhA** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:06 am

Nemesis Maximo wrote:I reay like that Thundercracker. So different, uet so similar. I'm just not sure if I want a leader class version of him in my Decepticon collection.

And Huffer... I'm...not sure how I feel. It looks good, but it also looks like somebody put Huffer's had on Optimus's body.

Ignore it now and wait untill they come up with Thundercracker and Starscream. They will. Oh yes, they will.

News Credits: 112 · by **megatronus** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:12 am

Sodan-1 wrote:I'm wondering about the potential for a custom G1 Dreadwind and Darkwing.

Between the Universe Ultra Darkwind/g and Botcon Dreadwind... do we need new versions?

by **frogbat** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:35 am

i was thinking of it as a skyquake / dreadwing thanks to their prime incarnations. It does seem that thundercracker does not come with jetfire's backpack, could it be left out and might lead to a cheaper price (i have a feeling it will be w/o the pack but same price as jetfire)

News Credits: 112 · by **megatronus** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:44 am

frogbat wrote:i was thinking of it as a skyquake / dreadwing thanks to their prime incarnations. It does seem that thundercracker does not come with jetfire's backpack, could it be left out and might lead to a cheaper price (i have a feeling it will be w/o the pack but same price as jetfire)

They're not taking the backpack out - that's what makes up the rear of the jet in alt mode, and is essential to the transformation.

News Credits: 14 · by **robotmel** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:57 am

Autobot032 wrote:16 Deluxes... 4 combiners. I'm betting a portion of those will be redecos/remolds. Yay.

3rd party to the rescue!

You can guarantee ideas are being thrown around already for the Combiner Wars gestalts.

Working with what we have seen so far could we expect the likes of Dr Wu, Prof Heiesenberg, Dr Killinger, SXS and Beelzeboss banging their heads together to create...

Weapon set - G1 inspired guns and swords?
Replacement head(s) - G1 inspired individual bots and/or gestalt head?
Replacement hands & feet - Articulated fingers/combining hands and feet into weapon?
Replacement Legends bot - Improved and articulated replacement?
Replacement Deluxe bot - Improved and articulated replacement?

We have already heard news that Beelzeboss may be working on replacement parts/entire figure. :-?

by **Doubledealer93** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:20 am

these two toys were the only good ones revealed at NYCC

by **frogbat** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:37 am

megatronus wrote:
frogbat wrote:i was thinking of it as a skyquake / dreadwing thanks to their prime incarnations. It does seem that thundercracker does not come with jetfire's backpack, could it be left out and might lead to a cheaper price (i have a feeling it will be w/o the pack but same price as jetfire)

They're not taking the backpack out - that's what makes up the rear of the jet in alt mode, and is essential to the transformation.

mm I was referring to the detachable backpack that came with jetfire, it's not being shown in either the pshopped images or the comic con photos. It might not be shown as it's not ready or they decided to do without it as it doesn't contribute to thundercracker.

News Credits: 112 · by **megatronus** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:03 am

frogbat wrote:
megatronus wrote:
frogbat wrote:i was thinking of it as a skyquake / dreadwing thanks to their prime incarnations. It does seem that thundercracker does not come with jetfire's backpack, could it be left out and might lead to a cheaper price (i have a feeling it will be w/o the pack but same price as jetfire)

They're not taking the backpack out - that's what makes up the rear of the jet in alt mode, and is essential to the transformation.

mm I was referring to the detachable backpack that came with jetfire, it's not being shown in either the pshopped images or the comic con photos. It might not be shown as it's not ready or they decided to do without it as it doesn't contribute to thundercracker.

Ah, I see what you're saying. You were referring to the jetpack thing:

Sorry about that.

We may not get the jetpack with Thundercracker, but we are getting null rays.

by **frogbat** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:30 am

yeah the jetpack thingy - though that one is of the prior generations version.

in the photos there's also a 2nd hand blaster though I reckon since it's not in the pshopped image, it won't be included.

I do like the new thundercracker detailing, though the mould's inherent flaws still bely what would have been one of the best figures in years.

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:31 am

Thundercracker looks incredible! Nice to see such wonderful treatment given to the guy who has essentailly become the G1 equivalent of Beast Wars Dinobot!

megatronus wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:16 Deluxes... 4 combiners. I'm betting a portion of those will be redecos/remolds. Yay.

3rd party to the rescue!

Well yea, except one of the voyagers is Optimus... so 3 combiners, plus Optimus Super Mode?

I wonder who the 4th Voyager will be.

But we're getting 6 Voyagers.

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