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[Steamed_Ham]

..........but the telephone operator was sheik humor. Who in this country hasn't had a run in with an outsourced telephone operator from India?

I get that, my problem was that it really broke the tension in that scene, and not in a good way, just in a disruptive way.

[Rock Sexton]

Evolution Prime,

This is a $200+ million dollar movie. Not a 30 minute Saturday morning childrens cartoon. If I wanted to watch complete nonsense and fighting, I'd re-live my childhood and flick on the ol'tube come 8am Saturday morning.

They promised us an even bigger foray into the Transformers universe. All we got was a beefed up CGI character list and enough schtick to make Robin Williams seem like a normal, well-behaved guy. Many of us had high hopes for this film after the surprising success the first one turned out to be. All the talk about "revenge" and we got to thinking we were going to get something really interesting. We expected diversity and learning more about the robots. All we learned about was some entity known as The Fallen who for some unexplained reason can only be defeated by a Prime (because the writers said so) and that he can barely put up a fight.

[Rock Sexton]

Let me also put it this way. If you want three things in a product, you can typically only get two without sacrificing with the other. Here are the three things from this move.

1. More Transformers
2. Indepth stoyline and Plot
3. Lots of action.

You want more Transformers and a storyline, then the action is going to get sacrificed.
You want indepth storyline and lots of action, then more Transformers is going to get the axe.
You want lots of action and more Transformers, then an indepth storyline is getting the boot.

This movie went the way of #1 and #3. You can't have it all.

You can have the middle-ground. It's not just one extreme or the other. But Bay is an "in excess" kind of guy and he saturates movies to the point of overload and incoherency.

[Rock Sexton]

..........but the telephone operator was sheik humor. Who in this country hasn't had a run in with an outsourced telephone operator from India?

I get that, my problem was that it really broke the tension in that scene, and not in a good way, just in a disruptive way.

I can understand your argument. It obviously distracted you. Having said that, I'm surprised the entire ROTF didn't distract you then.

I personally thought it was funny in a "wouldn't it be funny if" kind of way. I still felt the tension of the fire fight as Duhamel and Tyrese were shouting back and forth. It was exaggerated, but clever at the same time.

[oldskooltf]

Let me also put it this way. If you want three things in a product, you can typically only get two without sacrificing with the other. Here are the three things from this move.

1. More Transformers
2. Indepth stoyline and Plot
3. Lots of action.

You want more Transformers and a storyline, then the action is going to get sacrificed.
You want indepth storyline and lots of action, then more Transformers is going to get the axe.
You want lots of action and more Transformers, then an indepth storyline is getting the boot.

This movie went the way of #1 and #3. You can't have it all.

You can have the middle-ground. It's not just one extreme or the other. But Bay is an "in excess" kind of guy and he saturates movies to the point of overload and incoherency.

I feel that many hear who are hating this movie have no middle-ground. Many make these all-or-nothing criticisms without listing and pros of the movie (like the CGI for example). Not everyone's doing that, but many are.

I agree with Evolution Prime and I feel his points are clear. You'll notice he's not unbalanced in his points -- he's not calling the movie perfect or anything.


The fighting was not pointless... how the heck can people be saying that?!? Prime fought Megatron, Starscream, and Grindor to protect Sam because he knew they'd stop at nothing to get him.

The autobots fought the decepticons in Egypt because the Decepticons wanted to (1) open the machine that destroys the sun and (2) get Sam and (3) the autobots wanted the matrix that Sam had.

Prime fought Megatron and the Fallen because they were about to destroy the sun.

Now... how the heck is that pointless???!!!


As far the $200 million goes... it was mostly to pay for all of the CGI -- that costs mega-money -- I think people are forgetting that. Of course it goes to pay the actors and set designs and everything else... but if you're using the $200 million as an argument as to why the plot should have been more of what you want (whatever that is), then you're off the mark. If you hate the plot, first blame the writers.

[wingdarkness]

A few facts I wanna throw in about Bay since some people (even his haters) either don’t know or are unaware of this and it's kinda annoying me reading it so,...

The Rock (Micheal Bay’s first Movie) was totally supervised by executive producer Jerry Bruckheimer (and Don Simpson who didn’t even want Bay to direct it IIRC)…Being his first movie for the man who brought him into Hollywood, Bay had no real control other than the filming…He was on Bruckheimer’s leash (something in hindsight that makes me understand why Bay became a monster once he gained his own control) and as a consequence “The Rock” is generally considered his best movie (Also by me)…

In Bad Boys the studio wanted to pull outta the movie because Martin and Will weren’t their original actors for this…Bay hated the script that was written (Which begins the well documented relationships he has with script writers in his movies –HE DOES NOT RESPECT THEM AND HE THROWS THEIR IDEAS AWAY AT A WHIM--for the "blame the writers too" club), he gave Martin and Will free reign to improv pretty much the whole movie, and they were good at it…He was severely under budgeted (almost tanking) and he used his connections with GMC (being their top commercial director) to get all the cars for his action scenes and he swung the movie…I give him credit for that one, but who knew what his ego would become because of that…

So Bad Boys and The Rock are the only 2 movies Bay didn’t really have complete control of and as you can see they turned out arguably well, if not generally respectable…

I won’t go thru the list but every single one of his movies not named BB or the The Rock have had $hitty to $hiteous consensus reviews, 2 winning the Golden Raspberry for worst movie of that particular year (Armagedden & Pearl harbor)…

So understand that when Steven “I made a raptor come to life then forgot how to tell stories after that” Speilberg hand picked him to do the TF franchise, realize that Micheal Bay WOULD NOT DO IT unless he had COMPLETE CONTROL!! He does not listen to the writers of his movies (Most he doesn’t even pick as he has said in countless interviews that he writes his own scripts as a guideline and tries to put the writers stuff within that)…He has been documented to not even let studio picked writers on set while he’s directing or listen to any of their “on the fly” input…This is not just some wiki bull$hit but stuff I have carefully read and discovered starting in like 06 when I found out this hack was gonna direct my childhood…

So all those who want to know how Orci & Kurtz (Who were reportedly not even let on set somedays during TF1 because Bay has no respect for them), how they wrote something as decent if not awesome like Star Trek could write something as sad and pathetic as TF2, understand that MICHEAL F-ING BAY CONTROLS EVERYTHING!! Understand that, because if you don’t you are fooling yourself…Mike Bay went to ILM and told the hand-picked Hasbro TF-creators to scrap all their designs first day …LMMFAO…You people really think this guy deserves a break…This guy wouldn’t let you walk on his yard…Just understand that Bay made this $hit…The sooner that confusion can be handled, the sooner we can bash him intelligently…

[oldskooltf]

A few facts I wanna throw in about Bay since some people (even his haters) either don’t know or are unaware of this and it's kinda annoying me reading it so,...

The Rock (Micheal Bay’s first Movie) was totally supervised by executive producer Jerry Bruckheimer (and Don Simpson who didn’t even want Bay to direct it IIRC)…Being his first movie for the man who brought him into Hollywood, Bay had no real control other than the filming…He was on Bruckheimer’s leash (something in hindsight that makes me understand why Bay became a monster once he gained his own control) and as a consequence “The Rock” is generally considered his best movie (Also by me)…

In Bad Boys the studio wanted to pull outta the movie because Martin and Will weren’t their original actors for this…Bay hated the script that was written (Which begins the well documented relationships he has with script writers in his movies –HE DOES NOT RESPECT THEM AND HE THROWS THEIR IDEAS AWAY AT A WHIM--for the "blame the writers too" club), he gave Martin and Will free reign to improv pretty much the whole movie, and they were good at it…He was severely under budgeted (almost tanking) and he used his connections with GMC (being their top commercial director) to get all the cars for his action scenes and he swung the movie…I give him credit for that one, but who knew what his ego would become because of that…

So Bad Boys and The Rock are the only 2 movies Bay didn’t really have complete control of and as you can see they turned out arguably well, if not generally respectable…

I won’t go thru the list but every single one of his movies not named BB or the The Rock have had $hitty to $hiteous consensus reviews, 2 winning the Golden Raspberry for worst movie of that particular year (Armagedden & Pearl harbor)…

So understand that when Steven “I made a raptor come to life then forgot how to tell stories after that” Speilberg hand picked him to do the TF franchise, realize that Micheal Bay WOULD NOT DO IT unless he had COMPLETE CONTROL!! He does not listen to the writers of his movies (Most he doesn’t even pick as he has said in countless interviews that he writes his own scripts as a guideline and tries to put the writers stuff within that)…He has been documented to not even let studio picked writers on set while he’s directing or listen to any of their “on the fly” input…This is not just some wiki bull$hit but stuff I have carefully read and discovered starting in like 06 when I found out this hack was gonna direct my childhood…

So all those who want to know how Orci & Kurtz (Who were reportedly not even let on set somedays during TF1 because Bay has no respect for them), how they wrote something as decent if not awesome like Star Trek could write something as sad and pathetic as TF2, understand that MICHEAL F-ING BAY CONTROLS EVERYTHING!! Understand that, because if you don’t you are fooling yourself…Mike Bay went to ILM and told the hand-picked Hasbro TF-creators to scrap all their designs first day …LMMFAO…You people really think this guy deserves a break…This guy wouldn’t let you walk on his yard…Just understand that Bay made this $hit…The sooner that confusion can be handled, the sooner we can bash him intelligently…

I am more than willing to listen to oposing points of view... but I prefer balance criticisms (the pros and cons, not just embellished cons) and when bold statements are made about a director's past, I like to see links, articles, or something pointing me to the evidence. It's not that I don't believe that some of what you stated could be true... but some me the evidence so I can decide for myself.

You failed to mention how Transformers 1 was given pretty good reviews by critics and movie-goers alike and that was a Bay movie that, by your claim, he had control of.

[Predaprince]

Let me also put it this way. If you want three things in a product, you can typically only get two without sacrificing with the other. Here are the three things from this move.

1. More Transformers
2. Indepth stoyline and Plot
3. Lots of action.

You want more Transformers and a storyline, then the action is going to get sacrificed.
You want indepth storyline and lots of action, then more Transformers is going to get the axe.
You want lots of action and more Transformers, then an indepth storyline is getting the boot.

This movie went the way of #1 and #3. You can't have it all.

You forgot:

4. Unnecessary abundance of juvenille humor to the point that even 14 year-old boys in the theater thought it was too much

Like usual with these threads, poster are looking only at their own opinion and dismissing others; I will say, though, that these thread seems better than the usual TF movie threads in the fact that there doesn't seem to any all-out fights.

I, myself, am in the middle. I believe that this sequel was better than I feared it was going to be based on the first one, but, at the same time, I think plot and character development were overlooked or under-developed in order to fit in as many brainless and inappropriate jokes as possible. Don't get me wrong, some of the jokes were somewhat funny, but remove five minutes of them throughout the movie and replace them with five minutes of new TF introduction would have worked just fine for everyone including Bay.

[Prime Riblet]

If the people paying for this movie wanted different, then they should have been firm. If Bay, or anyone makes an offer or condition, and it is accepted by the people who have a say about it.......then too bad for them. Your points are not valid. If Michael Bay is a dick AND everone knows it, but they still decide to work with him, then it is very hard to give all the blame to Bay. There are other people involved who DO have the power to tell him no and they have not done that.

[oldskooltf]

Don't get me wrong, some of the jokes were somewhat funny, but remove five minutes of them throughout the movie and replace them with five minutes of new TF introduction would have worked just fine for everyone including Bay.

I agree with this statement -- five minutes less of sexual humor could have happened and have been replaced with other material... like as you have said, TF introduction.

[Predaprince]

If the people paying for this movie wanted different, then they should have been firm. If Bay, or anyone makes an offer or condition, and it is accepted by the people who have a say about it.......then too bad for them. Your points are not valid. If Michael Bay is a dick AND everone knows it, but they still decide to work with him, then it is very hard to give all the blame to Bay. There are other people involved who DO have the power to tell him no and they have not done that.

Because they need to work to have money to make a living.

[Prime Riblet]

If the people paying for this movie wanted different, then they should have been firm. If Bay, or anyone makes an offer or condition, and it is accepted by the people who have a say about it.......then too bad for them. Your points are not valid. If Michael Bay is a dick AND everone knows it, but they still decide to work with him, then it is very hard to give all the blame to Bay. There are other people involved who DO have the power to tell him no and they have not done that.

Because they need to work to have money to make a living.

Not everyone is working for Michael Bay. There are actually people involved that have more power that he does. They still decided to work with him. Everyone acts like Bay is the closest thing to God in this situation, but there are people that write out his check too.

[FordGT]

The first thing that came to my mind after seeing ROTF was how long the damn movie was! It dragged on and on. The first movie always felt like it kept moving, always something happening around the next corner.

The second thing I thought was how immature MOST of the actors lines were. Oh my God. Did they really say some of the things I thought they did? And the "comedy" was out of place in what should have been a serious revenge-based movie plot.

I also think the global scale ruined this movie. Too many cities and no actual reason for it.

The last thing that bothered me was how weak and pathetic The Fallen was. They saved the big battle for the end and it really wasn't. The biggest battle was in the beginning(action-wise) I thought.

I did like the CGI though which is one of the main reasons I liked the last film. These films could never really be about anything more than the Transformers themselves and Michael Bay proves it even more so with ROTF. It can be done but I don't think Michael Bay is the guy to do it.

At least Optimus Prime was given the role he deserved. 110% Bad Ass.

[Prime Riblet]

There were some editing issue, that's for sure. I do agree that the first movie seemed to have a lot better flow. I also agree that Optimus was just awesome. The Fallen was a total wussy though.

[wingdarkness]

If the people paying for this movie wanted different, then they should have been firm. If Bay, or anyone makes an offer or condition, and it is accepted by the people who have a say about it.......then too bad for them. Your points are not valid. If Michael Bay is a dick AND everyone knows it, but they still decide to work with him, then it is very hard to give all the blame to Bay. There are other people involved who DO have the power to tell him no and they have not done that.

Money Talks dude, do you not know how this works?? As much as I personally hate Bay's entire mentally towards his profession if Paramount, or Universal, or Whomever called me up to be apart of a project with him unless I was swimming in uncashed winning powerball-tickets I'd have to consider it (If I wanted to further my career)... People in every profession make sacrifices to get established or get to the point they can do things how they want...5 outta 10 people here probably has a boss they hate, or hate the way their boss manages the office, but you're damn sure not gonna throw your career down the toilet because you don't like you're present boss...This is the same as people who work for Bay...I'm sure there are many of them who generally love working with the guy no matter how much I think he's a douche-chill, but I'm equally sure there are those who work for and with him because of the $$$$$$$$$$$$...So let's drop the fronts here...

Oh and movie studios? Well i think we all know that you could put Punky Brewster in a mask and call it Zorro 3 and if it sells they're happy...I never said Bay didn't know how to execute the business side of things...Letting the US Military and GMC rape his movies saving the studio $50mil per project is pretty smart if not artistically sad...So like I said, from all the information I have soaked in over the years,...All the interviews he's given that I have read surrounding TF's and other works of his, I say this with no hesitation, "Micheal Bay is a CONTROL FREAK..." A freak fueled by every superficial aspect of life known to man, splattered on a rectangular screen with glee...Again, keep in mind, until he was ungodly selected to be the head of TFs I didn't really care about his hackiness as much, but funny how you feel when somebody F's with something you love...

[Prime Riblet]

If the people paying for this movie wanted different, then they should have been firm. If Bay, or anyone makes an offer or condition, and it is accepted by the people who have a say about it.......then too bad for them. Your points are not valid. If Michael Bay is a dick AND everyone knows it, but they still decide to work with him, then it is very hard to give all the blame to Bay. There are other people involved who DO have the power to tell him no and they have not done that.

Money Talks dude, do you not know how this works?? As much as I personally hate Bay's entire mentally towards his profession if Paramount, or Universal, or Whomever called me up to be apart of a project with him unless I was swimming in uncashed winning powerball-tickets I'd have to consider it (If I wanted to further my career)... People in every profession make sacrifices to get established or get to the point they can do things how they want...5 outta 10 people here probably has a boss they hate, or hate the way their boss manages the office, but you're damn sure not gonna throw your career down the toilet because you don't like you're present boss...This is the same as people who work for Bay...I'm sure there are many of them who generally love working with the guy no matter how much I think he's a douche-chill, but I'm equally sure there are those who work for and with him because of the $$$$$$$$$$$$...So let's drop the fronts here...

Oh and movie studios? Well i think we all know that you could put Punky Brewster in a mask and call it Zorro 3 and if it sells they're happy...I never said Bay didn't know how to execute the business side of things...Letting the US Military and GMC rape his movies saving the studio $50mil per project is pretty smart if not artistically sad...So like I said, from all the information I have soaked in over the years,...All the interviews he's given that I have read surrounding TF's and other works of his, I say this with no hesitation, "Micheal Bay is a CONTROL FREAK..." A freak fueled by every superficial aspect of life known to man, splattered on a rectangular screen with glee...Again, keep in mind, until he was ungodly selected to be the head of TFs I didn't really care about his hackiness as much, but funny how you feel when somebody F's with something you love...

Yes, I absolutely know how it works. There are people that Bay answers to that could tighten the leash, but don't. I cannot give all the credit to Bay for the shortcomings of this movie. It does seem that you think so. That is your opinion which you have made exceptionally clear from the get go.

[wingdarkness]

^But why man?? You're a tuff cookie to break...When you watch Bay's movies there is a common thread there, when you listen to him in interviews there is a common thread that always exists...There may be negligible reasons surrounding why one would or would not respect this movie, but the evidence clearly points to Micheal Bay getting what Micheal Bay wants in the end...With this movie and TF1's ridiculous success he'll never have to answer to anyone ever again...It's like letting a coyote loose in a chicken coop...And to him we're just chicken poop...

[T-man5000]

Well, regardless of what the fans think, or what anyone thinks, I hope Bay or whoever gets the third one takes some of the comments to heart.

I waited 21 years for a live action TF movie. Now we have two. Huzzah. But after the goodness that was the first, is it too much to ask to have a decent sequel? I didn't expect a Terminator 2 type success. But really, there's no excuse for some of the plot, pacing and editing issues that were in that movie. Frankly, I think its offensive to Bay, to us and to Transformers to just sit back and say "what the hell are you on about dood, we got ourselves a transformers movie with big shiney robots and explosions, we don't need no plot or any of those things like pacing or editting".

We do no respect to Transformers or our fandom to excuse such antics. We deserve better. Transformers deserves better. It does not make us less of a fan to demand better. We're the ones who pay good money to see this, the general public pay good money to see this. There's apparently a recession on, and I'm in full time employment now, I don't have the time or the money to see bad movies! Its perfectly in our right, and perfectly acceptable to ask for a good movie with good flow and structure. Should we really just accept the no plot, bad pacing shenanigans of the 80s cartoon series? Those of us who grew up with this cartoon are adults now, we shouldn't have to be stuck in the past and we should feel no shame or doubt our "love" for this genre by asking, even begging, for a good flick.

But I do enjoy the squabbling between fans who get their panties in a bunch when someone has a different opinion, scathing or glorifying, its always good for a chuckle.

As they say, bad publicity is still publicity.

Nicely said.

[T-man5000]

I know I made a review before, but I just wanna narrow what bothered me the most. Indeed it was a good movie filled with action, but just felt empty without knowing the Transformers (other than Optimus and BB). I just wanna see it become like one of the new Batman movies(i'm not comparing it to batman) where you have both a great story line and action-packed movie. I don't know why, but I think the Third movie has the potential to make people speechless( in a good way), kinda like Lord of the Rings. I really think Bay and Co.(I know I sound crazy) can make a movie that make has a solid plot and continues with their awesome action and visual for the next movie. All's I suggest is to leave the writers to do their job with the help of Speilberg and leave Bay to all the action and directing to the movie next time.

[Black Eyes]

I know I made a review before, but I just wanna narrow what bothered me the most. Indeed it was a good movie filled with action, but just felt empty without knowing the Transformers (other than Optimus and BB). I just wanna see it become like one of the new Batman movies(i'm not comparing it to batman) where you have both a great story line and action-packed movie. I don't know why, but I think the Third movie has the potential to make people speechless( in a good way), kinda like Lord of the Rings. I really think Bay and Co.(I know I sound crazy) can make a movie that make has a solid plot and continues with their awesome action and visual for the next movie. All's I suggest is to leave the writers to do their job with the help of Speilberg and leave Bay to all the action and directing to the movie next time.

I hear yah man but I just don't think that will ever happen with Bay at the helm.

It would be awsome to have Christipher Nolan or hell I'd even take that guy that did 300 and The Watchmen take over the TF franchise... I guess we can dream. Funny thing is I don't see that out of the realm of possibility with all the dough the movies are bringing in. If this incarnation of TF movies dies out after 3 films I could definatly see hollywood brining it back 10 years down the line. Lets face it the film indestry isn't exactly overflowing with fresh new ideas.


Now for my review

I like ROTF a lot, probably about the exact same as the first one. The Action/fight sequences were THE MOST BAD ASS thing I have seen in any movie. We got that old school Megatron/Starscream dynamic along with Soundwave(liked the satalite idea) and Devastator(Big dumb lumbering behemoth liked that too).

My complaints of the film are not the hummping,I've got 2 dogs who hump quiet often and I still find it kinda funny...maybe I'm just immiture like that.

They're not the sexual innuendo, the swearing or the horrible plot(I saw the first one and completely expected it again).

They're not Devastator's balls, I found that to be hillarious and the most perfectly timmed thing in the movie. It also looked to me like its just kinda where the wrecking balls ended up after the combine/transformation and ol' Dev had no clue what that looks like to fleshlings.

So what are my complaints?

My biggest complaint is Megan Fox's lipps. Just stop Meg please, stop shooting that crap into your face. And don't even think about doing anything else to yourself, your perfect please stop.

Second biggest complaint was the Overpowered Optimus vs the weak not evil enough Decpticons. This was the OP I wanted to see when I was 9 and went to the animated movie, he absolutly wrecked Decpticon ass in this movie. He made Megatron shoot himself in the face with his own arm cannon for crying out loud...ok maybe this isn't really a complaint.

Other random comlaints that didn't really stop me from enjoying the movie.

Sam's roomate=complete wast of screen time.

The Twins...what they said and how they said it didn't bother me, I found them mildly funny a few times. It was those damn ugly, big eared, buck-toothed and Bug-eyed faces that ruined them completely. You give them better heads and most people would have enjoyed them more, maybe even liked them. You also woudn't have all this racist/jar-jar crap going on.

Sam....he was very likable in the fist movie everybody could relate to him. In this one he's a jerk, he won't tell his super hot girlfreind how he feels, he stands her up to go to a frat party and he cheats on her with an anarexic alien robot. He's just as bad almost worse to Bumblebee. Sam tries to shoo him off when he goes away to school and then spends the rest of the movie screeming at him like a miss-behaving dog.

But all in all I enjoyed the film and will be going to see it again in the theater.

Thank you if you read this.

[Collectorbot]

Agree totally

The Twins' faces really annoyed me - i can understand their voices, they could have learned it from the web/movies etc, but the faces were just an idiotic decision if you ask me -

They might as well as used this guys head



Instead of this - FAIL

[bachelod]

How was devestator formed if demolisher was killed in the begining of the movie?

[Collectorbot]

There is a constructicon called Scavenger, that has the same Alt mode as Demolishor.

Demolishor wasn't part of the constructicons afaik

[theriseofcobra]

Okay I posted this at the Collider.com:

What went wrong:

- Small idiotic mini robots like the humping decepticon monstertruck…

- A decepticon that transforms into a pornstar (wtf? was this a terminator T1000 or T-X?)

- Megatron serving “The Fallen” - Megatron serves nobody!

- The Twins and “Jar Jar Binks syndrome”

- Bad humor

I have to state, that I myself was a child in the 80’s - I grew up with The Inhumanoids, Transformers, G.I.Joe, He-man, She-ra, M.A.S.K., Dino-Riders, Thundercats, Jayce and The Wheeled Warriors, Bravestarr, (Filmation) Ghostbusters… mention a cartoon of the 80’s, and I believe I was on the bandwagon...

It’s just so disappointing to watch your childhood be flushed down the toilet with this movie - - and I am already consuming tons of chlorpromazine and olanzapine to overcome the possible disaster that is G.I.Joe The Rise of Cobra…. My head hurts

[Cesium_Salami]

I thought the movie was awful. I don't agree with criticisms that focus on the plot because everyone is right, its just there to be shiny and have lots of explosions. It was there so that we could see our favorite characters beat each other up in their computer-generated, larger-than-life glory. But I cannot forgive the technical errors. My biggest gripe would be the duplicate Constructicons. How can you have Mixmaster running around fighting while he is also working as part of Devastator? And forget any opinions on whether or not the Twins were racially insensitive. Where the hell did they go? One minute they are fighting with Devastator and the next, they are gone. Wheelie vanished too. Its like what happened to Barricade times three. What this film appeared to be was a bunch of goofing off with several ideas until the deadline came and they just had to throw all the footage together and hope that it fit, which towards the end, it did not. I wasn't expecting anything deep or moving, but I was hoping for a coherent, if weak, series of events. I was good through the first half of the movie, but the mishaps just pulled me out of it.