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Re: Official Transformers Generations Thrilling 30 Discussion Thread

Postby durroth » Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:50 pm

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It's a shame about the colors because they really went all out with remolding this guy.
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Postby Cyber Bishop » Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:28 am

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Meh, I want to like him but he is just too small.. Should have been voyager sized.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Thrilling 30 Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:44 am

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i agree with everyone being surprised and happy with the remolding, but i cant stand the oversight on the colors. ill be getting him, but only cause im worried takara wont release him.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Thrilling 30 Discussion Thread

Postby xyl360 » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:29 am

I'm not sure if anyone posted this anywhere yet or if this is even the thread where it belongs, but BBTS just listed Hasbro's Generations Voyager Brainstorm.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Thrilling 30 Discussion Thread

Postby Mindmaster » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:57 pm

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xyl360 wrote:I'm not sure if anyone posted this anywhere yet or if this is even the thread where it belongs, but BBTS just listed Hasbro's Generations Voyager Brainstorm.


We've already got it up! ;)

TF Source also has theirs up, too. I'll more than likely order from them, since I've had a good experience with them.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Thrilling 30 Discussion Thread

Postby MenaceRX » Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:40 am

Was anyone else disappointed that Generations Voyager Whirl didnt have a single Autobot symbol on him? I know I was. Stickers are ok, I just prefer the paint or beveled symbols more.

I was hoping at least the shoulder mark would be there. But his demo images show marks on the cockpit and shoulder, final product didnt have them. Still a cool voyager to put with my other aerial bots.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Thrilling 30 Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Sun Aug 17, 2014 5:55 am

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The Tomy version will have a tampographed symbol.

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Re: Official Transformers Generations Thrilling 30 Discussion Thread

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MenaceRX wrote:Was anyone else disappointed that Generations Voyager Whirl didnt have a single Autobot symbol on him? I know I was. Stickers are ok, I just prefer the paint or beveled symbols more.

I was hoping at least the shoulder mark would be there. But his demo images show marks on the cockpit and shoulder, final product didnt have them. Still a cool voyager to put with my other aerial bots.


Mine didnt even come with a sticker sheet. I had to pay an extra 15$ on top of the 34$ I already paid for him for the Reprolabels. Nevertheless, it made an amazing result.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Thrilling 30 Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:26 am

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fenrir72 wrote:The Tomy version will have a tampographed symbol.

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Will Takara forego the stickers altogether for Whirl and Roadbuster, just giving us some tampographed faction symbols and more paint details instead? Or is it going to be a bit of a Metroplex situation, where we still got SOME stickers, but not nearly as many as the Hasbro release, with more paint apps to compensate?
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Thrilling 30 Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:22 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:The Tomy version will have a tampographed symbol.
Will Takara forego the stickers altogether for Whirl and Roadbuster, just giving us some tampographed faction symbols and more paint details instead? Or is it going to be a bit of a Metroplex situation, where we still got SOME stickers, but nearly as many as the Hasbro release, with more paint apps to compensate?
i believe (i read somewhere) takara forgoes the sticker sheet entirely. but since theyre not released yet, i cant confirm.

did takaras metroplex have more apps and less stickers? i have the HK metro and his sticker sheet was bigger than my bed sheet.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Thrilling 30 Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Sun Aug 17, 2014 2:40 pm

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shajaki wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:The Tomy version will have a tampographed symbol.
Will Takara forego the stickers altogether for Whirl and Roadbuster, just giving us some tampographed faction symbols and more paint details instead? Or is it going to be a bit of a Metroplex situation, where we still got SOME stickers, but not nearly as many as the Hasbro release, with more paint apps to compensate?
i believe (i read somewhere) takara forgoes the sticker sheet entirely. but since theyre not released yet, i cant confirm.

did takaras metroplex have more apps and less stickers? i have the HK metro and his sticker sheet was bigger than my bed sheet.


Yeah, the Takara version had fewer stickers and more paint apps. That should have read "not nearly as many" before, sorry (I've corrected that where I can). The HK ACG-CON version is a Hasbro release with the same sticker sheets and paint apps as Hasbro's other Metropex releases.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Thrilling 30 Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:11 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:
shajaki wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:The Tomy version will have a tampographed symbol.
Will Takara forego the stickers altogether for Whirl and Roadbuster, just giving us some tampographed faction symbols and more paint details instead? Or is it going to be a bit of a Metroplex situation, where we still got SOME stickers, but not nearly as many as the Hasbro release, with more paint apps to compensate?
i believe (i read somewhere) takara forgoes the sticker sheet entirely. but since theyre not released yet, i cant confirm.

did takaras metroplex have more apps and less stickers? i have the HK metro and his sticker sheet was bigger than my bed sheet.


Yeah, the Takara version had fewer stickers and more paint apps. That should have read "not nearly as many" before, sorry (I've corrected that where I can). The HK ACG-CON version is a Hasbro release with the same sticker sheets and paint apps as Hasbro's other Metropex releases.


Still too early to tell but in JP online stores, there's no mention of the sticker sheet on RB and Whirl. Btw, I thought the HK ACG-CON 'plex had metallic labels like the Tomy version?

And yup...........it was overloaded regardless..........took me nearly two hours to get them all on.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Thrilling 30 Discussion Thread

Postby durroth » Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:12 pm

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Re: Official Transformers Generations Thrilling 30 Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:02 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:Still too early to tell but in JP online stores, there's no mention of the sticker sheet on RB and Whirl. Btw, I thought the HK ACG-CON 'plex had metallic labels like the Tomy version?

And yup...........it was overloaded regardless..........took me nearly two hours to get them all on.


The HK ACG-CON version was the SDCC version, but with gold and silver decoy figures instead of red and purple and with the glossy "mass production" stickers for the retail Hasbro release of Metroplex instead of the metallic stickers for the SDCC set.

Takara's version may also have metallic stickers (not sure) but the sticker sheets were altered, omitting several Hasbro ones, adding a few new ones, and filling in any other gaps with additional paint applications (for greater toy accuracy, believe it or not).

Here's a run down on how the Hasbro releases differ, from what I've gathered:

SDCC version: Chromed thighs and face, metallic sticker sheet, two red guns, red and purple decoy figures

HK ACG-CON version: Chromed thighs and face, glossy sticker sheet, two red guns, gold and silver decoy figures

Mass Retail version: White plastic thighs and face, glossy sticker sheet, one red gun, no decoy figures

And just for completion's sake, here's how Takara-Tomy's version compares with the rest.

Takara-Tomy version: Chromed thighs and face, unique sticker sheet (glossy or metallic?), altered paint applications, two red guns, no decoy figures
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Thrilling 30 Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:45 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Still too early to tell but in JP online stores, there's no mention of the sticker sheet on RB and Whirl. Btw, I thought the HK ACG-CON 'plex had metallic labels like the Tomy version?

And yup...........it was overloaded regardless..........took me nearly two hours to get them all on.


The HK ACG-CON version was the SDCC version, but with gold and silver decoy figures instead of red and purple and with the glossy "mass production" stickers for the retail Hasbro release of Metroplex instead of the metallic stickers for the SDCC set.

Takara's version may also have metallic stickers (not sure) but the sticker sheets were altered, omitting several Hasbro ones, adding a few new ones, and filling in any other gaps with additional paint applications (for greater toy accuracy, believe it or not).

Here's a run down on how the Hasbro releases differ, from what I've gathered:

SDCC version: Chromed thighs and face, metallic sticker sheet, two red guns, red and purple decoy figures

HK ACG-CON version: Chromed thighs and face, glossy sticker sheet, two red guns, gold and silver decoy figures

Mass Retail version: White plastic thighs and face, glossy sticker sheet, one red gun, no decoy figures

And just for completion's sake, here's how Takara-Tomy's version compares with the rest.

Takara-Tomy version: Chromed thighs and face, unique sticker sheet (glossy or metallic?), altered paint applications, two red guns, no decoy figures



So the labels were from the retail? Got it. Btw, the Tomy version had aluminum color "painted" thighs. Only the HK ACG-CON had it chromed.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Thrilling 30 Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:04 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:So the labels were from the retail? Got it. Btw, the Tomy version had aluminum color "painted" thighs. Only the HK ACG-CON had it chromed.


They're chromed on the SDCC version too, remember. The ACG-CON version has nothing to do with Takara, just to clear things up. It's a Hasbro release there, and even came in the same box as the SDCC version, just with some alterations to remove call outs to SDCC. The instructions, though, STILL mention SDCC instead of being changed for ACG-CON. Interesting that Takara didn't go the chrome route with Metroplex's thighs and went with shiny paint instead. Did Takara still chrome Metroplex's face, or was that just shiny silver paint as well?
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Thrilling 30 Discussion Thread

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Wolfman Jake wrote:Did Takara still chrome Metroplex's face, or was that just shiny silver paint as well?


The TakaraTomy version has the chromed face only, the thighs are painted silver.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Thrilling 30 Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:38 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:Did Takara still chrome Metroplex's face, or was that just shiny silver paint as well?
The TakaraTomy version has the chromed face only, the thighs are painted silver.
k thanks for that. i was so sure the takara version didnt have chromed thighs, but after sifting through a lot of pics i could tell they were different, but not chrome.

i didnt know that my HK metro was a hasbro product, and im bummed to find out that the takara one (which i was initially going to get) has more paint apps. i bought my HK based on the chrome (because the G1 had chromed thighs) and i bought him right when he was released so he was $$$$. id like to see the HK version next to the takara version... sounds nuts but id be willing to transplant the chrome thighs onto the takara metro if he has the superior paint apps.
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Postby Wolfman Jake » Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:20 pm

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Check the pictures on tfwiki.net for some comparison shots of the various Metroplex releases. The SDCC version and the HK ACG-CON version are practically the same, save for the difference in "metallic" versus "glossy" stickers. The Takara version has more paint apps, yes, but it's personal opinion on if they are superior to the Hasbro versions. Takara wasn't simply trying to reduce the number of stickers so much as alter the product to look more like the G1 toy (red toes and white runways, for example). So, Takara didn't so much replace stickers with paint from the Hasbro version, but painted up their version more thoroughly and with different goals in mind, and then made an edit to the sticker sheet to reflect the changes they made. In general, though, I think paint applications win the day over consumer-applied stickers. I might be tempted one day, if I had a few hundred extra dollars begging to be spent, to buy the Takara version and sell my SDCC version.

To anyone who has the glossy stickers for their Metroplex, are there any troubles getting the stickers to stay stuck to your figure? My SDCC version came with the metallic/foil stickers and they NEVER adhered well from day one. I know this is a very common complaint from other owners of the SDCC version, but was this any better for the mass retail or HK ACG-CON versions with their "glossy" stickers?
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Thrilling 30 Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:35 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:Check the pictures on tfwiki.net for some comparison shots of the various Metroplex releases. The SDCC version and the HK ACG-CON version are practically the same, save for the difference in "metallic" versus "glossy" stickers. The Takara version has more paint apps, yes, but it's personal opinion on if they are superior to the Hasbro versions. Takara wasn't simply trying to reduce the number of stickers so much as alter the product to look more like the G1 toy (red toes and white runways, for example). So, Takara didn't so much replace stickers with paint from the Hasbro version, but painted up their version more thoroughly and with different goals in mind, and then made an edit to the sticker sheet to reflect the changes they made. In general, though, I think paint applications win the day over consumer-applied stickers. I might be tempted one day, if I had a few hundred extra dollars begging to be spent, to buy the Takara version and sell my SDCC version.

To anyone who has the glossy stickers for their Metroplex, are there any troubles getting the stickers to stay stuck to your figure? My SDCC version came with the metallic/foil stickers and they NEVER adhered well from day one. I know this is a very common complaint from other owners of the SDCC version, but was this any better for the mass retail or HK ACG-CON versions with their "glossy" stickers?
thanks for the insight ;)

but i honestly cant tell you anything about the stickers for my HK metro... cause i didnt put any on. i have a real problem with putting stickers on modern toys, so all my guy got was an autobot symbol on the chest :lol:
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Postby william-james88 » Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:46 pm

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but i honestly cant tell you anything about the stickers for my HK metro... cause i didnt put any on. i have a real problem with putting stickers on modern toys, so all my guy got was an autobot symbol on the chest :lol:


I felt the same about stickers until I got into the Arms Micron figures from the Prime line. Man those things needed the stickers bad.
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but i honestly cant tell you anything about the stickers for my HK metro... cause i didnt put any on. i have a real problem with putting stickers on modern toys, so all my guy got was an autobot symbol on the chest :lol:


I felt the same about stickers until I got into the Arms Micron figures from the Prime line. Man those things needed the stickers bad.


Because those were MADE for stickers, with paint aps left out on purpose.
Thus, ironically, making many Hasbro Prime deluxes superior to the Takara releases.
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Postby fenrir72 » Mon Aug 18, 2014 8:23 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:So the labels were from the retail? Got it. Btw, the Tomy version had aluminum color "painted" thighs. Only the HK ACG-CON had it chromed.


They're chromed on the SDCC version too, remember. The ACG-CON version has nothing to do with Takara, just to clear things up. It's a Hasbro release there, and even came in the same box as the SDCC version, just with some alterations to remove call outs to SDCC. The instructions, though, STILL mention SDCC instead of being changed for ACG-CON. Interesting that Takara didn't go the chrome route with Metroplex's thighs and went with shiny paint instead. Did Takara still chrome Metroplex's face, or was that just shiny silver paint as well?


Face chromed. Check my review. Too bad Tomy ditched the chrome in the thighs. Would have looked more like the original G1.

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Postby Va'al » Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:19 am

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We've seen the official images for the coming Generations wave, and various in-hand shots of Jhiaxus, and reviews of Windblade - but what about Nightbeat? Mystery solved, thanks to a tip from fellow Seibertron.com user Autobot Genocide and YouTube reviewer Pax Cybertron! Check out some shots of the Generations Bumblebee remold and redeco below.

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Re: Official Transformers Generations Thrilling 30 Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:07 am

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I wish there was a little more yellow; he's pretty neon-y blue. But the head looks really nice. I'll be getting him when I see him.
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