AcademyofDrX wrote:Emerje wrote:AcademyofDrX wrote:Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:I wonder why they gave this a special name since the Jetfire deco was from the Macross movie "Do You Remember Love."
That makes me wonder why we don't get that colour scheme more often
I'm sure it's no accident that a company out of China is doing this rather than Japan or the USA where Hasbro is more likely to say something that would prevent it from happening.
Emerje
I don't know about that, what's Hasbro going to do, send a cease and desist for using an illegal amount of the color red?
You're familiar with the lawsuit Harmony Gold filed against Hasbro over their SDCC Jetfire, right? The court dismissed it and Harmony Gold isn't allowed to sue them over it again (and shortly after we got the very Macross CW Leader Jetfire). Seeing as how Harmony Gold has never allowed the use of that particular color scheme on a Veritech/Valkyrie toy and Hasbro basically won the lawsuit over the use of it it doesn't take much reading between the lines to realize Hasbro owns that specific red, black and white color scheme.
Emerje
I am familiar with it, and that's not at all what happened. Hasbro did not win the case. It was dismissed with prejudice due to an agreement with both parties, which often (but not always) means there was an out of court settlement.
I very much doubt that the settlement restricted what Harmony Gold's licensees could do, and if it did, it wouldn't matter that these are made by a Chinese company because Hasbro could take it up with HG directly.
Why hasn't Harmony Gold done that color scheme on a toy before now? I don't know, but it's not because Hasbro "owns" that color scheme, because a color scheme isn't a thing you can own. In a legal case, there are standards for infringement like if a consumer can't tell the difference between two products, but that only applies when the underlying material is protected. Toys generally don't have that level of protection. The fact that Hasbro can and does use it does not itself preclude someone else from using it.
Important caveats: I am not a lawyer, IP law is incredibly messy, these disputes are rarely tested at trial. IMHO most corporate decisions in this space are not "what are we legally permitted to do" but "will we be sued."
The main reason I push back on this all the time is that there are deep-seated fandom assumptions about how all this stuff works, and I don't think it's based in fact.
william-james88 wrote:Are these not Jetfire colours?
https://anime-pictures.net/pictures/get ... y-vf-1.jpg
Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:Still weird that one could own a colour scheme
Wont disagree with you there, but it happens.
Incidentally it was mentioned that Jetfire is just the VF-1 from Macross Do You Remember Love, it isn't. Not entirely anyway. Jetfire is based on it, but also changed a bunch of things itself which is what Harmony Gold had no control over.
Here's the original Macross Figure:
And Jetfire:
The most obvious part on the chest is flipped, Jetfire has a red cockpit/nosecone/whatever, a bunch of stickers were made into red shapes, the visor was changed from green to red and the Macross Figure came with a gray Striker pack for the movie release (not shown) instead of the red Super pack that Jetfire comes with. Hasbro made a lot of changes to the design that are unique to Jetfire.
Emerje
william-james88 wrote:Yes, that's accurate, they are making more
primeisboss wrote:While I have no connection to Macross, I have to admit that this is a nice looking piece. Also, the lights are a nice touch.
TK415 wrote:Great thanks! Did you reply?
-Kanrabat- wrote:primeisboss wrote:While I have no connection to Macross, I have to admit that this is a nice looking piece. Also, the lights are a nice touch.
I was able to buy it, when I saw that even at that price, you still need to SWAP HANDS for posing. Well, I nope'd out.
Emerje wrote:TK415 wrote:Great thanks! Did you reply?
I did, they didn't reply back, but they may not have intended to.-Kanrabat- wrote:primeisboss wrote:While I have no connection to Macross, I have to admit that this is a nice looking piece. Also, the lights are a nice touch.
I was able to buy it, when I saw that even at that price, you still need to SWAP HANDS for posing. Well, I nope'd out.
I'm so used to hand swapping that it didn't even register with me as an issue.
Emerje
Emerje wrote:TK415 wrote:Great thanks! Did you reply?
I did, they didn't reply back, but they may not have intended to.-Kanrabat- wrote:primeisboss wrote:While I have no connection to Macross, I have to admit that this is a nice looking piece. Also, the lights are a nice touch.
I was able to buy it, when I saw that even at that price, you still need to SWAP HANDS for posing. Well, I nope'd out.
I'm so used to hand swapping that it didn't even register with me as an issue.
Emerje
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
First-Aid wrote:Emerje wrote:TK415 wrote:Great thanks! Did you reply?
I did, they didn't reply back, but they may not have intended to.-Kanrabat- wrote:primeisboss wrote:While I have no connection to Macross, I have to admit that this is a nice looking piece. Also, the lights are a nice touch.
I was able to buy it, when I saw that even at that price, you still need to SWAP HANDS for posing. Well, I nope'd out.
I'm so used to hand swapping that it didn't even register with me as an issue.
Emerje
There are way too many pervs on this site to let that "hand swapping" sentence go...
chuckdawg1999 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Emerje wrote:TK415 wrote:Great thanks! Did you reply?
I did, they didn't reply back, but they may not have intended to.-Kanrabat- wrote:primeisboss wrote:While I have no connection to Macross, I have to admit that this is a nice looking piece. Also, the lights are a nice touch.
I was able to buy it, when I saw that even at that price, you still need to SWAP HANDS for posing. Well, I nope'd out.
I'm so used to hand swapping that it didn't even register with me as an issue.
Emerje
There are way too many pervs on this site to let that "hand swapping" sentence go...
I felt a disturbance in the Schwarz, did somebody call me.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
AcademyofDrX wrote:Back up at BBTS if you missed the first two times:
https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/ ... ils/217476
They're listing the quantity at 2188, which doesn't match the expected update.
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