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KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:Is Hasbro not allowed to release Ser-Ket? Is Takara not allowed to release Ripclaw?

Yes to both. No to both. And I am leaning towards no, unless TOMY decides to pull a "Rumble and Frenzy" by making some minor retooling on Ser-Ket. Otherwise, I only expect them to do the two characters separately.

We currently have no indication at all about whether or not Hasbro will release Ser-Ket in their markets, or whether this mold will ever see a Takara release in any form. However, being as Ser-Ket is a Hasbro creation, and the toy mold will be released in some form on Hasbro's shores, there's stronger precedent for a Ser-Ket release than Hasbro Ironhide or Frenzy.

PrymeStriker wrote:Also, we don't even know if Takara will be continuing the Arms Micron gimmick into Beast Hunters.

Just note that TOMY created a history for this line and the only way they will abandon it is if season 3 and beyond have nothing to do with Earth. Because Arms Microns are weapons that were exposed to Earth's energon and mutated in the process. And even then, it looks like they have no intention to abandon it anytime soon.

They created a gimmick story for the toyline that has little to no bearing in the show, even with the alterations they made to their version of the cartoon. The gimmick was chosen due to the popularity of model-building in Japan, so it seems unlikely they'd drop it now. However, I think a lot of us hope they at least stop with the decals on the main figures and go back to paint apps.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:If she is more than a mere concept character, and more than background character, she will have some form of superiority. Then again, she does not have to be a main character to be a major character... As she might be between the Vehicons (minor) and Predaking (main).

Or she's a toy only. Ser-Ket has a better chance of showing up than Ripclaw.

Yes to both. No to both. And I am leaning towards no, unless TOMY decides to pull a "Rumble and Frenzy" by making some minor retooling on Ser-Ket.

Why would they need to retool it? Ripclaw's model is not different from Ser-Ket at all.

That Bot wrote:We currently have no indication at all about whether or not Hasbro will release Ser-Ket in their markets, or whether this mold will ever see a Takara release in any form. However, being as Ser-Ket is a Hasbro creation, and the toy mold will be released in some form on Hasbro's shores, there's stronger precedent for a Ser-Ket release than Hasbro Ironhide or Frenzy.

I disagree with two factors at hand:

1) TOMY's decisions are based on characters that currently reside within PRIME and characters that they feel work with their own continuity.

2) Hasbro's decisions are based on their Binder of Revelation.

In other words - TOMY has a whole lot more freedom than Hasbro when it comes to these characters. And unless Hasbro has some plans for Ser-Ket, which I also hope to hear about, we should hope that TOMY picks him up.

Oh... And with this topic... I am curious to know what kind of Arms Micron that TOMY would consider giving Ripclaw, and if it would form an ultimate Predacon weapon.

That Bot wrote:They created a gimmick story for the toyline that has little to no bearing in the show, even with the alterations they made to their version of the cartoon. The gimmick was chosen due to the popularity of model-building in Japan, so it seems unlikely they'd drop it now. However, I think a lot of us hope they at least stop with the decals on the main figures and go back to paint apps.

I'll remember that when I talk to those I know that actually follow the Japanese line, That Bot. Because based on what TOMY has stated, the Arms Micron are an official part of their continuity. The only reason why they cannot include them in the current PRIME series is because they are only capable of dubbing it. However, they have the option to branch off from the series after season 2, and allow the Arms Microns to have a greater role in their exclusive works.

Then again, and I blame Sabrblade for this, but I would love to see them do a spin-off manga series starring Leo Prime. Because that way, we get more of him and a deeper understanding tied to the importance of the Arms Micron, etc.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:And unless Hasbro has some plans for Ser-Ket

He's one of the main characters in the "Rage of the Dinobots" comics.

PrymeStriker wrote:Or she's a toy only. Ser-Ket has a better chance of showing up than Ripclaw.

Pryme, remember me saying that I have a lot to do? I am thinking that is not important here.

So I will just get to the point: The series that Ser-Ket appears in is a means to fill in the gaps that connect FOC to PRIME. Both IDW and Hasbro currently know the fates of Ser-Ket and others that worked for Shockwave, as well as what Ripclaw's role is within the Predacon team.

In other words: I assume that Ser-Ket is Grimlock fodder, Ripclaw is his twin sister, and if both Ripclaw and the Dinobots appear in season 3... You are going to love being wrong.

Myself... I have decided to not focus on this until TOMY makes a decision tied to Beast Hunters. Because (again, thanks to Sabrblade) I am contemplating Leo Prime... And will consider these if they decide to reissue the "yellow variant" of G1 Predaking (as I have the "gold" version).

would they need to retool it? Ripclaw's model is not different from Ser-Ket at all.

Really. Does that mean I should ignore the retooling done to "Arms Micron" Arcee? Because two versions are pretty much the same, but the Arms Micron version had some retooling done for her Arms Micron companion. Hence my point to that.

PrymeStriker wrote:

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:And unless Hasbro has some plans for Ser-Ket

He's one of the main characters in the "Rage of the Dinobots" comics.

Emphasis on comics. Plus, he is one of the main villains in the story, and is facing off against the Dinobots. Meaning that Grimlock and company will not show any sympathy to those who have an undying allegiance to Shockwave.

So unless he is a coward and manages to escape... Grimlock becomes a big softy and spares him... Or he changes allegiances... I salute the fact that IDW gave him a death that is better than your other two favorite Decepticons.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:... I salute the fact that IDW gave him a death that is better than your other two favorite Decepticons.

Mindmaster wrote:

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:... I salute the fact that IDW gave him a death that is better than your other two favorite Decepticons.

Thanks for the laugh. I just hope Pryme remembers that I support his favorites my not buying anything tied to those who those who butchered his main favorite.

Now if you do not mind... I have some reading to do, some apps to find, and a way to get the financial backing I need to turn my 2013 plans into a reality.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Emphasis on comics.

That ties right into the third season of Prime. Imagine that.

So unless he is a coward and manages to escape... Grimlock becomes a big softy and spares him... Or he changes allegiances... I salute the fact that IDW gave him a death that is better than your other two favorite Decepticons.

1) So, just because he's the villain, and the Dinobots are involved, he's gonna die. Brilliant conclusion. If that's the case, Shockwave should have died in Fall of Cybertron. Instead, he gets his left arm torn off and replaced by a cannon hosed from his back.

2) You just dissed Knock Out and Soundwave.

Both IDW and Hasbro currently know the fates of Ser-Ket and others that worked for Shockwave, as well as what Ripclaw's role is within the Predacon team.

You're ignoring the possibility of Ripclaw being a toy-only character.

In other words: I assume that Ser-Ket is Grimlock fodder, Ripclaw is his twin sister, and if both Ripclaw and the Dinobots appear in season 3... You are going to love being wrong.

Dude, you need not assume Ser-Ket is going to die. Grimlock's kicked the asses of many Decepticons. Not all of them have died.

Really. Does that mean I should ignore the retooling done to "Arms Micron" Arcee?

You said pull a "Rumble and Frenzy." Frenzy, the blue one over there, has a totally different head from Rumble, the blue one over here. You didn't say anything about Arms Micron retooling. All of them have that.

Pryme, remember me saying that I have a lot to do? I am thinking that is not important here.

It's not. You could get what you need done done and come back and reply when you have enough time. Nobody's asking you to respond on the spot.

PrymeStriker wrote:

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Emphasis on comics.

That ties right into the third season of Prime. Imagine that.

So unless he is a coward and manages to escape... Grimlock becomes a big softy and spares him... Or he changes allegiances... I salute the fact that IDW gave him a death that is better than your other two favorite Decepticons.

1) So, just because he's the villain, and the Dinobots are involved, he's gonna die. Brilliant conclusion. If that's the case, Shockwave should have died in Fall of Cybertron. Instead, he gets his left arm torn off and replaced by a cannon hosed from his back.

2) You just dissed Knock Out and Soundwave.

Both IDW and Hasbro currently know the fates of Ser-Ket and others that worked for Shockwave, as well as what Ripclaw's role is within the Predacon team.

You're ignoring the possibility of Ripclaw being a toy-only character.

In other words: I assume that Ser-Ket is Grimlock fodder, Ripclaw is his twin sister, and if both Ripclaw and the Dinobots appear in season 3... You are going to love being wrong.

Dude, you need not assume Ser-Ket is going to die. Grimlock's kicked the asses of many Decepticons. Not all of them have died.

Really. Does that mean I should ignore the retooling done to "Arms Micron" Arcee?

You said pull a "Rumble and Frenzy." Frenzy, the blue one over there, has a totally different head from Rumble, the blue one over here. You didn't say anything about Arms Micron retooling. All of them have that.

Pryme, remember me saying that I have a lot to do? I am thinking that is not important here.

It's not. You could get what you need done done and come back and reply when you have enough time. Nobody's asking you to respond on the spot.

And again, I quote:

Really. Mocking my intelligence are we? Congrats. You succeeded without even looking at the facts stated within the first issue, much less ignoring the original press release.

PrymeStriker wrote:That ties right into the third season of Prime. Imagine that.

Read the original press release. Follow that up by actually reading the issue. Both have IDW saying that you are talking about what you want - Not what they are writing.

Oh, and imagine this: IDW announced that the series will plant the Dinobots into the PRIME continuity when they did their first press release. They also have written the story as a "Dinobots versus The Forged" event. The story also hints that Sur-Ket and his (her?) team of Predacons were created by Shockwave.

Wow... Imagine that - Me going along with what IDW has given us, not what you want.

1) So, just because he's the villain, and the Dinobots are involved, he's gonna die. Brilliant conclusion. If that's the case, Shockwave should have died in Fall of Cybertron. Instead, he gets his left arm torn off and replaced by a cannon hosed from his back.

2) You just dissed Knock Out and Soundwave.

Nice insults. Both show that you are good at dismissing facts, so lets get to the actual facts:

1) By your logic, I should ignore Dragon Ball Z... Virtually every Gundam series ever made... Sherlock Holmes' own Doctor Moriarty... Chaos;HEAd... And every series that has a set story with a disposable character (or characters) that have their own fanbase. That, and the writers are basically hinting that Ser-Ket is technically the clone of Ripclaw... Hence my wishful thinking that both will be made by TOMY.

2) Soundwave is the Decepticon's answer to Batman, and we have not seen the actual limits f what he can do. He is also said to be the only Decepticon that even Megatron does not want to cross. Knock Out was not entirely loyal to Megatron, but his abilities and skills as a medic are required... To the point that Megatron allows him to live until a better medic that has an unyielding loyalty towards him comes. Yeah... That is such a mockery on my behalf when it comes to two characters that have nothing to do with your claims.

Now for the umpteenth time... I am busy trying to sort out everything that will help me determine if I can stay within this fanbase in 2013. Please deal with that before you dismiss the fact that you may not get what you want... In an insulting way.

Oh, and BTW... If anybody can find a simple way to come up with an estimated $40,000-$60,000 for a foreclosed 3LDK condo apartment within the Tokyo district, money to get a small business off the ground, revive my writing career, obtain an English teaching job in the same area, means of meeting somebody that both lives (or is willing to live) in the area and accept my limitations, and still have the ability to juggle this fanbase with many others I want to revive... Please PM me.

Because I came here for a fun distraction, not have my hobby be a short-term anxiety event. And if you truly know me, then you know that it is another reason why I am swaying to Autobot032's current plan... Even though the Super Sentai series I am currently interested in is not an official Super Sentai series (despite being made by Toei).

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Oh, and BTW... If anybody can find a simple way to come up with an estimated $40,000-$60,000 for a foreclosed 3LDK condo apartment within the Tokyo district, money to get a small business off the ground, revive my writing career, obtain an English teaching job in the same area, means of meeting somebody that both lives (or is willing to live) in the area and accept my limitations, and still have the ability to juggle this fanbase with many others I want to revive... Please PM me.

Because I came here for a fun distraction, not have my hobby be a short-term anxiety event. And if you truly know me, then you know that it is another reason why I am swaying to Autobot032's current plan... Even though the Super Sentai series I am currently interested in is not an official Super Sentai series (despite being made by Toei).

Ya gotta know when to walk away from an argument, guy. I stopped looking at the FoC Voyager pics thread that got obscenely long because my mind couldn't comprehend the fanwank over the really very good figure that is FoC Grimlock. I simply walked away.

RAcast wrote:Ya gotta know when to walk away from an argument, guy. I stopped looking at the FoC Voyager pics thread that go obscenely long because my mind couldn't comprehend the fanwank over the really very good figure that is FoC Grimlock. I simply walked away.

You know what? You are correct. I mean, atop of what I said... I have an email from 2 weeks ago that asked me to submit any photos I had taken while I visited Japan last May. According to them, and this is from the hotel I stayed at, they might appear in a photo gallery. So maybe I should distract myself with that.

Plus, also, if you have the time... As me to tell you the story of when I was in Akihabara and decided not to buy a MOSC 2008 "Henkei!" C-05 Hot Rodimus for $60. And the time my now ex-girlfriend took me to Toei Animation (on our second date) and I could not find any information tied to Headmasters (and so on) there.

And I thought I derailed threads, damn.

I'm pretty impressed with how close the figure looks to the art. Thats pretty rare if I may say so.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Oh, and BTW... If anybody can find a simple way to come up with an estimated $40,000-$60,000 for a foreclosed 3LDK condo apartment within the Tokyo district, money to get a small business off the ground, revive my writing career, obtain an English teaching job in the same area, means of meeting somebody that both lives (or is willing to live) in the area and accept my limitations, and still have the ability to juggle this fanbase with many others I want to revive... Please PM me.

Because I came here for a fun distraction, not have my hobby be a short-term anxiety event. And if you truly know me, then you know that it is another reason why I am swaying to Autobot032's current plan... Even though the Super Sentai series I am currently interested in is not an official Super Sentai series (despite being made by Toei).

KUMA, from one diagnosed guy to another, I'm gonna try to say this and nicely as I possibly can. If it's not on topic, it's not relevant. One's personal problems like computer issues or financial issues tend to have no bearing in topics about a new toy (like this one) and therefore just steer the topic further off topic, thus making the one who brought them up look bad.

If you wish to share your personal issues, please take them to someplace like the General Discussion forum, as saying things like, "People ignore the fact that my laptop wasn't working right," or "People overlook the fact that it was my birthday," make it sound like you're trying to play the role of a victim and are reaching for sympathy, when the reality is that the reason people ignore little things like that is because, simply put, they are just that, "little things", irrelevant to what's being discussed. They aren't acknowledged because they aren't important these discussions.

It isn't just yourself who comes here to have fun discussions, we all do as well. Though, at the same time, the rest of us also don't share our own personal issues in topics about toys or fiction or what have you because we know that that's not what others here want to hear about and/or discuss. Therefore, we leave out that stuff and stick to what the main focus is. In this case, it's Prime Ripclaw.

I can relate to when I've also posted stuff that I also felt was important but just went largely ignored, but the reality of why that was was because I felt was important simply was of no concern to others. As a result, that is why people don't respond to the parts of your posts that talk about computer problems and such in topics about Transformers media. It's not that people outright choose to overlook it, it's that it simply does not matter to others in these topics if it isn't related to the topic.

Hope I got the message across, and again, I meant no disrespect whatsoever in any of that.

MINDVVIPE wrote:And I thought I derailed threads, damn.

I'm pretty impressed with how close the figure looks to the art. Thats pretty rare if I may say so.

And the irony to this? My comments were based on the hope that if Hasbro chose to not turn Ser-Ket into a figure, TOMY would... All because it was something that a certain member wanted.

Oh, and if the figure looks as good as it does in this image - Yeah. It'll be another scratch from my bucket list.

Sabrblade wrote:KUMA, from one diagnosed guy to another, I'm gonna try to say this and nicely as I possibly can. If it's not on topic, it's not relevant. One's personal problems like computer issues or financial issues tend to have no bearing in topics about a new toy (like this one) and therefore just steer the topic further off topic, thus making the one who brought them up look bad. (rest compressed)

Sabrblade, I'll simplify this - If you had to say that out of respect, instead of realizing that no matter what I say or do... I am going to be blamed for something that also excuses the person who caused me to say it. And what is worse is that you brought up my laptop issue, which was mentioned after you did not acknowledge the fact that I lost everything you requested from me.

Factor is that I gave you and everybody else the same behavior I was hoping to receive. But if you choose to backtrack this topic, you will see that I was not the issue... And everything about me was ignored. All but the issues you have with me. So instead of just saying why Pryme is at fault, and have that ignored... I will just realize that I should give the behavior I tried offering to the others.

That way, I can enjoy the topics and you can focus on making any off-topic chats with Pryme. Plus, if you ever decide you want to chat with me about anything that is not on-topic, we can do it via PM... Unless it is based on the subject. That way, I can focus on those who want to know what I am saying and why, and the others do not have to worry about the topic go off-topic... Much less have a better known member sour the topic by adding insults to the person they chose to "disagree" with.

I have no grudges against you, so no worries. However, this is the only decision I have. And what sucks is the fact I feel like I insulted my dignity by saying it here, even though I made personal requests that were ultimately ignored.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Really. Mocking my intelligence are we?

When?

PrymeStriker wrote:That ties right into the third season of Prime. Imagine that.

Read the original press release. Follow that up by actually reading the issue. Both have IDW saying that you are talking about what you want - Not what they are writing.

Oh, and imagine this: IDW announced that the series will plant the Dinobots into the PRIME continuity when they did their first press release. They also have written the story as a "Dinobots versus The Forged" event. The story also hints that Sur-Ket and his (her?) team of Predacons were created by Shockwave.

Wow... Imagine that - Me going along with what IDW has given us, not what you want.

But they said it was tying into the third season of Prime. That's not what I want, that's what they told us. Wanna read about it? First paragraph, second sentence.

And I expressed no desire for Ser-Ket to live. I expressed no desire for him to die either, but you continuously assume that he will for the sake of Takara picking him up, which is what you want.

Nice insults.

You haven't seen insults yet. I don't think we want to start throwing them either.

That, and the writers are basically hinting that Ser-Ket is technically the clone of Ripclaw...

You're basing that off a toy bio?

2) Soundwave is the Decepticon's answer to Batman, and we have not seen the actual limits f what he can do. He is also said to be the only Decepticon that even Megatron does not want to cross. Knock Out was not entirely loyal to Megatron, but his abilities and skills as a medic are required... To the point that Megatron allows him to live until a better medic that has an unyielding loyalty towards him comes. Yeah... That is such a mockery on my behalf when it comes to two characters that have nothing to do with your claims.

Dude, that was a joke.

And I'm the one lacking a sense of humor.

MINDVVIPE wrote:I'm pretty impressed with how close the figure looks to the art. Thats pretty rare if I may say so.

Now we have a new desire: comic accuracy.

What the hell is going on in here?

Holy crap ...

I'm going to put this simply. KUMA-NIN Maximus, PrymeStriker, stop replying to each other. You're both treading on very thin ground.

And KUMA-NIN Maximus, if you want to bring up your personal issues, please create a thread in General Discussion. This is not the thread for it.

P.S. What I just said? Not open for discussion. Don't argue with me about it, don't pm me about it. Accept it and deal with it. Thread stays on topic and the discussion is kept civilised.

SO ANYWAY... Am I the only who still likes to look at transformer pics and try to figure out how it transforms? Surely not. This figure seems to show everything except the beast head in robot mode, so I'm assuming that'd be the back kibble... I hope the back tail can come forward in robot mode like a third arm (or leg on rule34). So I have not been paying attention to the written lore - Are these predacons going to mimmick the G1 predacons much? I'm guessing more the beast wars Preds since it seems like there will be more than 6...

Any further off-topic posts will be split off and moved to the staff forum for further review (moved ... NOT deleted).

Carry on.

MINDVVIPE wrote:SO ANYWAY... Am I the only who still likes to look at transformer pics and try to figure out how it transforms? Surely not. This figure seems to show everything except the beast head in robot mode, so I'm assuming that'd be the back kibble... I hope the back tail can come forward in robot mode like a third arm (or leg on rule34). So I have not been paying attention to the written lore - Are these predacons going to mimmick the G1 predacons much? I'm guessing more the beast wars Preds since it seems like there will be more than 6...

Yeah, I'm looking forward to more pictures as well.

They're Predacons in the sense that they have beast altmodes. Further, the Prime Predacons have altmodes based on Cybertron's original organic life, which bear a similarities to G1's Trans-Organics in that they're MASSIVELY large (or at least Predaking is) and monstrous.

MINDVVIPE wrote:So I have not been paying attention to the written lore - Are these predacons going to mimmick the G1 predacons much? I'm guessing more the beast wars Preds since it seems like there will be more than 6...

According to the Hasbro guys from the panel at NYCC, these Predacons are basically Cybertron's version of dinosaurs. They were Cybertron's first ancient race who were destroyed in a great cataclysm, but the way they will be brought into the show will be revealed in season 3.

Sabrblade wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:So I have not been paying attention to the written lore - Are these predacons going to mimmick the G1 predacons much? I'm guessing more the beast wars Preds since it seems like there will be more than 6...

According to the Hasbro guys form the panel at NYCC, these Predacons are basically Cybertron's version of dinosaurs. They were Cybertron's first ancient race who were destroyed in a great cataclysm, but the way they will be brought into the show will be revealed in season 3.

Ah thats pretty cool... Its like the CG Beast wars esq video on youtube with the theft of the golden discs, etc. I liked that concept of the Preds being the ancient Cybertronians.

Thanks for both responses, guys.

I want a PRIME Dinobot figure