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I really hope the designers stay true to the robot form. It would suck to have kibble hanging off of them like the ice cream truck twins.

El Duque wrote:

amcgrath929 wrote:So, a half red, half blue tank. Hopefully, the alt. mode takes a hit to make two good looking robot modes. Since they combine to make a voyager I'm guessing they wont be able to interact/attach with any SW figure.

I was thinking the same thing about their interaction with any existing or future Soundwave. I'll be getting these and I'm sure they will be good figures, but I'll be sticking with my PerfectEffect Rumble and Frenzy paired with ML Soundwave for my classics shelf.

Are the Perfect Effect R/F compatible with WFC SW? While I wouldn't dare keep my hopes up about being able to fit even one of them into his chest, I'm hoping they won't look too large to display next to him. It would be totally awesome if WFC SW could wield their alt modes in his hands!

As for the tank mode R/F, I'll need to see some pics before making a decision. I was hoping for a more appropriate alt mode, though. Like a satellite armed with laser canons or something, maybe?

A tank mode just isn't R/F.

Then again, WFC SW was an armored vehicle....

I'm not sure about the tank concept either but I suppose it's the same deal as Reflector and Perceptor; kids just wouldn't be interested in toys that turned into cassette tapes, a camera or a microscope.

Hasbro and Takara Tomy have done the best they can; they've stayed as faithful to the G1 robot modes as they can and in most cases, the vehicle modes.

I'm happy to hear about Frenzy (the blue one) and Rumble (the red and black one)'s piledrivers and G1 heads. Now can anyone find some pictures.......

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:The absolute truth is right here behind this link.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to find the guy who decided to make them a tank. Seriously, a tank?

I prefer how Wayward handled the question m'self.

Bumblevivisector wrote:

buddhaquest wrote:The big question will be: "Who will be blue and who will be red"?

Well, outside of the profile books, Dreamwave nicely skirted that question by always pairing them up so they never had to refer to them separately. I would think that releasing the toys together is being done with similar intent.

I like this approach. Keep the fans guessing.

Mindmaster wrote:Well, kinda disappointed about them not being able to store inside either G1 Soundwave or a brand new mold of him, but nonetheless, it's a new reincarnation of Rumble and Frenzy.

There's always the Encore cassette tapes for G1 Soundwave.

Jazz-1982 wrote:I'm not sure about the tank concept either but I suppose it's the same deal as Reflector and Perceptor; kids just wouldn't be interested in toys that turned into cassette tapes, a camera or a microscope.

Hasbro and Takara Tomy have done the best they can; they've stayed as faithful to the G1 robot modes as they can and in most cases, the vehicle modes.

I'm happy to hear about Frenzy (the blue one) and Rumble (the red and black one)'s piledrivers and G1 heads. Now can anyone find some pictures.......

Very true. While I don't really expect a cassette alt mode from these two guys (80's tech being obsolete and uncool to kids nowadays), I do think that a tank should be reserved for more brutish "brawn for brains" characters. Even a Hummer with a pair of pile-drivers masquerading as a missile/machinegun turret mounted on it would be fine for me--just not a tank.

According to the source, the images of the toys are still in Prototype stage. No colour yet. So difficult to know who is red and who is blue....

Also the tank mode is earth version instead of futuristic version.

One of the bid thing about Rumble and frenzy is that they are Soundwave's minions, so... if they cant attach to Soundwave in anyway, they loose that and become just 2 more decepticons.
That just flushes out half the appeal these two characters had for me

BTW: RIRFIB

Rumble has been red "officially" more times than he has been blue, I guess it's all down to personal canon or how ingrained the G1 cartoon is into your psyche

On topic, this is great news, I'm glad I held off gettingt the perfect effect figures, what would be really cool is that if the bio and packaging didn't give us a clear answer to which one was which, failing that, Hasbro go one way and Takara the other!

BBTS has these up for preorder with pics:

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

Just a side note...

One possible reason besides the G1 cartoon that RIBFIR is so ingrained in some people is... the colors for Frenzy make more sense that way. Blue is a calming color, and someone named "Frenzy" being blue just doesn't make as much sense as coloring him red and black, a much more 'active' color scheme...

Random wrote:BBTS has these up for preorder with pics:

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

By the pics it looks like Blue gets to be the turret and front armor, whereas BlackRed gets to be the base and treads?