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News Credits: 3 · Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:35 pm

And Starscream acts more feminine than your average seeker, and the only country he's a chick in is France. (I thought the way he runs he'd be their national icon

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Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:40 pm

Damolisher wrote:And Starscream acts more feminine than your average seeker, and the only country he's a chick in is France. (I thought the way he runs he'd be their national icon )

lol, okay, you've got me thier. :lol:

Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:12 pm

Damolisher wrote:And Starscream acts more feminine than your average seeker, and the only country he's a chick in is France. (I thought the way he runs he'd be their national icon )

It is good to hear from you again Damolisher you haven't been on in a while, oh and personally I don't think IT looks very feminine to me...oh would I like to see those episodes where Screamer is a girl the episodes would be even more hilarious than they already were! I also heard my sis talkin about that.Ever since I heard that I've lost most of my little fan girl crush for him...sigh...Now it is for Skywarp! bwa ha ha!ehem sorry about that.It could just be like an error like Damolisher said.I mean they did crap like that all the time.

Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:29 pm

Never seen that picture before. Cool. *makes a note of said seeker*

Wait, Starscream is voiced by a girl?! Does anyone have a clip of this?

Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:30 pm

Well, as I said from the beginning. It is the only image that could be. I never said it was. For all we know, it is just another "animation error". All I know is many people say it looks feminine and thus could be a femme. There is no confirmation; it's really nothing but pure speculation.

Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:12 pm

Night Striker wrote:One of the newer F-22 Raptors or possibly one of the space planes that have been used recently.

By the way, has there ever been a female seeker? Like ever in any cannon story. I know that the Con's have Thunderblast and several others but it's cars and a boat I think. So Why not a female seeker or two?

It's usually the boys seeking the girls! 8-}

I think it will not be easy fitting a female figure into a jetfighter mold.

Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:18 pm

Maybe by using one of the sleeker planes instead of the usual F-15 mold.

Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:28 pm

How about an A-10. It's got some bulges here and there.

Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:58 pm

optronix91 wrote:Maybe by using one of the sleeker planes instead of the usual F-15 mold.

It can be done with the F-15 mold so that isn't an issue. The ones I designed so far don't use that mold though: http://www.seibertron.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14253&sid=

Rainking's female Seekers, Hellion, Jadewind, and Nightraven, are all F-15 based: http://10fingersdesigns.com/3d/decepticons11.htm

Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:14 am

Tramp wrote:
optronix91 wrote:Maybe by using one of the sleeker planes instead of the usual F-15 mold.

It can be done with the F-15 mold so that isn't an issue. The ones I designed so far don't use that mold though: http://www.seibertron.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14253&sid=

Rainking's female Seekers, Hellion, Jadewind, and Nightraven, are all F-15 based: http://10fingersdesigns.com/3d/decepticons11.htm

Those are cute little ladies.

Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:42 am

Tramp wrote:
optronix91 wrote:Maybe by using one of the sleeker planes instead of the usual F-15 mold.

It can be done with the F-15 mold so that isn't an issue. The ones I designed so far don't use that mold though: http://www.seibertron.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14253&sid=

Rainking's female Seekers, Hellion, Jadewind, and Nightraven, are all F-15 based: http://10fingersdesigns.com/3d/decepticons11.htm

The second link dosn't work.

Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:28 am

there ought to be some female seekers. my only qeustion is should they be coneheads or non-coneheads? i prefer the latter.

Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:00 pm

Whiner-tron wrote:
Tramp wrote:
optronix91 wrote:Maybe by using one of the sleeker planes instead of the usual F-15 mold.

It can be done with the F-15 mold so that isn't an issue. The ones I designed so far don't use that mold though: http://www.seibertron.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14253&sid=

Rainking's female Seekers, Hellion, Jadewind, and Nightraven, are all F-15 based: http://10fingersdesigns.com/3d/decepticons11.htm

The second link dosn't work.

It worked fine for me. Try copying and pasting it.

Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:13 pm

Tramp wrote: It worked fine for me. Try copying and pasting it.

Yes!!!
It worked, thank you, Tramp.

Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:11 pm

You're welcome.

Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:01 pm

Non, hands down. If they have the cones it makes them look like they have beehives ala Marge Simpson.

Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:39 am

Night Striker wrote:Non, hands down. If they have the cones it makes them look like they have beehives ala Marge Simpson.

That is so true, thats the best mental image ever! Talking of which, isnt there a Simpsons intro where they are all transformers? I cant remember, maybe im broken.

A female seeker could be hard to design all the same, it would hvae to be sleeker then the F15s, perhaps something like a Euro Fighter, they pretty sweet lookin. F18s are nice too. I'v been trying to work out how to design a femcon from an EF Typhoon, but the single tail fin has me vexed...I do not want her to look like a shark.

Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:43 pm

Well, as Rainking proved, you can use F-15s. The last of my Furies will be made using a Classics seeker mold. I'm going to have to modify the rib area to slim her down, but that is all. My plan is to swap parts between a Ramjet and a Starscream. I just need the extra Starscream figure. :oops:

Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:05 pm

I usually think of female Seekers as having narrower wings, smaller builds, and sleightly more feminine faces. I imagine their voices are probably not as deep as a male's also. I don't think they have "high-heel" feet, as their unique foot anatomy may not allow that. But I guess Seeker femms could be a bit hard to spot, as their sexual dimorphism is more subtle. Narrower wings, slightly smaller size and other hard to spot things might be persceived as mere individual differance to others, but to a male Seeker, he can tell easily thats a female of his kind.

Kind of how we see Canadian geese, I think. They look all alike to us, but the male gander can see stuff we don't tend to notice.

Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:25 pm

Heh, good point. It's interesting to me that the writers wanted to have females in the series more, but basically they were told not to because it's a Boys toyline. I think a lot of the time the writers like to give deeper stories becuase they know that while you have younger kids that might not get it, there's a lot of intellegent kids out there that would and would enjoy it.

It's a sad thing they never gave Skywarp or Thundercracker episodes.

Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:33 am

skywarp has a twin sister :shock:

Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:49 pm

*laughs* It appears that way.

Out of curiosity, who are some of the seekers I've seen people have in their profiles. Like Phonix, I've heard his name before.

Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:29 pm

Night Striker wrote:Heh, good point. It's interesting to me that the writers wanted to have females in the series more, but basically they were told not to because it's a Boys toyline. I think a lot of the time the writers like to give deeper stories becuase they know that while you have younger kids that might not get it, there's a lot of intellegent kids out there that would and would enjoy it.

It's a sad thing they never gave Skywarp or Thundercracker episodes.

Personally I don't think robots should even have genders it creeps me out :-s

even though Starscream and Megatron seem to be OTR every day! If you people don't know what OTR means just don't worry about it...as I was saying why did they even throw femmes in there? One it is aimed at children...male children.The thing I'm trying to say is that robots... do they really need genders?they shouldn't have children but Wheelie exsists.

on with seekers when the two seekers Thundercracker and Skywarp get thrown off of Astro-train and recarnated into Cyclonus and who I forget does know hmm.......

Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:35 pm

The primary reason for femmes being introduced was to bring in the female audience. While Hasbro may only have been marketing to boys in regards to the toys, TV stations and networks want a larger audience. The more viewers the better. Thus, if they can double the demographic by targeting both boys and girls, so much the better for them. Thus the writers will work to broaden the demographic by appealing to both boys anf girls with the characters. Thus, the need for female Transformers, and some romance, to bring in the female audience.

News Credits: 3 · Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:47 pm

What romance? There was no romance, simply "Oh, we're boyfriend and girlfriend." Not really romance per se.

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