The Energon Pub

News Credits: 1 · by **Cascadia** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:48 am

Thank you AlienQuikSilver...you did a better job than me.

Actually, Red Alert is a Japanese police car.

News Credits: 5 · by **decepticonjon** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:55 am

hts.com was SUPPOSED to re-realase decepticharge over the summer if i remember correctly but they haven't so far.
i randomly picked him up on amazon.com of all places about a year and a half ago for 25 bucks. never saw him in stores.

by **videriant** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:59 am

AlienQuiksilver wrote:[i]- (black Ram SRT-10) Alts. Nemesis Prime - $70.

You can get the Nemesis Prime for closer to $50-$60 if you're patient, unless alien was including shipping.

Also, the prices quoted are for MISB. If you're buying loose then drop about $20 dollars but rarely lower then $15. Lots of crazy people on evilbay paying stupid prices for loose alternator lots so be warned.

News Credits: 1 · by **Decepticharge** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:06 pm

To the OP you should probably focus on getting one of each mold. For example, Rodimus will be very hard to find, but having Mirage is just as nice imho. They are all great really. The only one I was disappointed in was Optimus Prime (maybe my expectations were too high).

by **Ramrider** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:34 pm

Cascadia wrote:If you get Smokescreen, be aware there are 3 versions. The first two (BT & Alt) and the GT version, which has a shoulder cannon. The GT version can be tough to obtain. But I agree, these are good version of the Alternators. Smokescreen was first than Silverstreak was #3.

Actually, aren't there more versions? I thought I remembered there was a no.8 and a no.7 version at least of the original Alt, with different drivers named on the side (Makinen and his nav were no.8, I think, I'm not sure about no.7)...

News Credits: 1 · by **Cascadia** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:51 pm

Original BT--comes with a #7 or #8, which have different drivers. The GT version has either a #1 or #2 and it is vastly different than the original in terms of drivers and sponsorships. The Alternators only came with the #8.

#7--Solberg & Mills
#8--Lindstrom & Makinen
#1 (GT)--Solberg
#2 (GT)--Hirvonen

by **Gutter Bunny** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:03 pm

AlienQuiksilver wrote:
- (red RX-8)Red Meister(AKA Zoom Zoom) - $100 to $150. BT only

- (White RX-8) Meister (AKA Jazz) - $55ish for alts. version. $80ish for BT.

Unless things have changed drastically since i looked, you have those BT prices inverted.

News Credits: 3 · by **coolpop** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:58 pm

AlienQuiksilver wrote:Legend.

BT = Binaltech
Alts. = Alternators
BTA = Binaltech Asterisk

I'm going by recent MISB ebay auctions.
(please see his wonderful post earlier in the thread)

Many thanks to AQ for putting this Alt/BT/BTA/KP price guide together, it's indeed very informative & instrumental for new collectors of these lines. *Pat on the back*

Cheers,
Coolpop

by **MentalDragon** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:19 pm

Ugh... wish I had that list about a month ago!... I started collecting the Alt line late as well (a month ago)... I only need 4 more! Decepticharge, Swindle, Camshaft and Shockblast. It's been a pain trying to find them since I don't like ebay!

Too bad the B/S/T thread is gone... There were a lot of members that hooked me up!

Good luck!

by **Volrath2242** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:25 pm

Damn it I want to start collecting these too! What the hell man! Damn I will has no money at all!

News Credits: 1 · by **Cascadia** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:55 pm

I think I found my Camshaft on Amazon a couple weeks ago. I got into the line back in July with Ricochet. I have one coming in a few days that I already have but it is custom done..Silverstreak with shoulder cannons.

by **AlienQuiksilver** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:23 pm

I'm glad I could help guys! I'd go back over the list and edit all of the mistakes that everyone found, but that would just lead to confusion to anyone new that comes across it. Close enough! :grin:

Cascadia - Red Alert ... I guess he is a Police car ... since a lot of people kitbash him into prowl. I guess I should open mine, that way i'll know fer sure! :grin:

Gutter Bunny - Red Meister and White Meister. I really haven't seen too many BT white meisters out there, so I could be inaccurate on the $80 for him.

As for Red Meister ... he's been increasing in price rapidly. For the most part ... people are charging $200 for him. toysnjoys.com happens to have him for $100 though, right now.

videriant - Nemesis Prime, I haven't seen that guy for under $70 yet ... but I'll take your word for it.

coolpop I'm sure you know the prices better than I do ... cripes. Your ALTS/BT collection trumps the **** out of mine.

Mental Dragon - A month ago ... I didn't have half of this information. I just completed the line today, winning Decepticharge for $83. Ouch! It's okay ... a fellow board member is Paypaling me half of the money to make up a deficit from a previous trade.

I'm not TOTALLY complete, but close enough for me. There are a few alternators that I don't have the BT version of. Skids,WJ, white meister, police prowl. Vice versa as well ... I have a few BT's that don't have an ALT counterpart. I'm fine with that.

Also, I need wonderfest Black Convoy ... I'm chalking him into the "grail" category. Right along with the Botcon "Games of Deception" set.

I will NOT spend that kind of money for toys.

$150 for KP Hot Rodimus was the highest I went.

I bid all of thee good luck. Use the list while it's accurate. It may not mean squat next month.

News Credits: 1 · by **Cascadia** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:49 pm

It is quite alright...no worries. As for the red vs. white BT Meister...on some websites, the white is higher priced than the red and the same goes for the red being the higher one.

In terms of my collection, it is healthy but it is no where near the size some of yours.

by **AlienQuiksilver** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:03 pm

Cascadia wrote:It is quite alright...no worries. As for the red vs. white BT Meister...on some websites, the white is higher priced than the red and the same goes for the red being the higher one.

In terms of my collection, it is healthy but it is no where near the size some of yours.

Ahh, you won the silverstreak with the shoulder cannons. I was eyeing that, but had already hit the BIN on my silverstreak before stumbling onto the auction. Good snipe!

You collection is plenty healthy. We're not comparing apples to apples either, I've had an extra months worth of searching. You'll catch me ... at the rate you're going.

Also, I envy the fact that you have a BT police prowl w/ reprolabels. I just won't spend the money he's going for. l can live with having just the Blue Prowl in BT ... uhh ... for now. :grin:

News Credits: 1 · by **Cascadia** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:18 pm

yes I did. In terms of my BT Prowl, I am working to get his legs turned around.

Believe it or not, Prowl was suppose to be Red Alert when the figure was produced.

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:34 pm

AlienQuiksilver wrote:Also, I need wonderfest Black Convoy ... I'm chalking him into the "grail" category.

This is a real grail...
(Totally Legit and one of a kind.)

Act now and get this asian model along with it!

by **AlienQuiksilver** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:13 pm

videriant wasn't kidding ... I spotted ALTS Nemesis Prime on ebay for $55 + $10 shipping.

CP, now there's a "grail" ... I constantly misuse this term when describing what I won't pay for.

The asian model however ... :-?

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:19 pm

AlienQuiksilver wrote:videriant wasn't kidding ... I spotted ALTS Nemesis Prime on ebay for $55 + $10 shipping.

Oh yea, that happens somewhat frequently. Seriously.

News Credits: 1 · by **SentinelPrime878** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:23 pm

I would get the following ones:

1) Optimus Prime (Red Dodge Pickup) And Black Nemesis Prime
2) X-9 Jaguar (Ravage) (VERY COOL!)
3) Hound
4) Wheeljack
5) Rumble

News Credits: 1 · by **Agent 007** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:27 pm

get Decepticharge, Mirage, Wheeljack,one of the jeep molds, Rumble, and Shockblast and u should be good

News Credits: 1 · by **Cascadia** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:28 pm

1) Hound is pretty cool and easy to transform in other direction.
2) Wheeljack is cool but can be a pain to transform
3) Rumble & Ravage--I do not currently have so I cannot comment about them
4) Optimus--he is good and big (particularly his legs)

by **AlienQuiksilver** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:13 pm

Also, for anyone that doesn't know the Mustang GT mold.

There are 2 exposed screws underneath the roof that WILLLLLLL scratch the legs.

News Credits: 5 · by **decepticonjon** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:15 pm

AlienQuiksilver wrote:Also, for anyone that doesn't know the Mustang GT mold.

There are 2 exposed screws underneath the roof that WILLLLLLL scratch the legs.

qft
2 grimlock's later

News Credits: 6 · by **bran10** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:19 pm

AlienQuiksilver wrote:Also, for anyone that doesn't know the Mustang GT mold.

There are 2 exposed screws underneath the roof that WILLLLLLL scratch the legs.

what do you mean?

News Credits: 1 · by **Cascadia** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:22 pm

thank you...I forgot to mention about that. I am somewhat lucky that the screws have not scratched my Wheeljack's legs. However, on the roof of the car, the paint is slightly scratched.