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Devastron wrote:The Insecticons are not going to be dismissed from the Decepticons.
Devastron wrote:The Insecticons are not going to be dismissed from the Decepticons.
Rebel Raven wrote:I suppose my idea wouldn't work I guess.
Was worth a pass by, I suppose.
While I have a few very good ideas for some 'would be insecticons' not all the actual insecticons are currently be played... and Fanmades really shouldn't be intro'd just for fodder. So I wouldn't feel right bring them in.JaAm wrote:OK, Now for something completely different. The exile of Venom from the insecticons leads up to a lot of interesting possibilities. However, I already had one scenario. I was thinking along the lines of Starscream's Brigade, where Venom would help form a group of Decepticons to help him remove shrapnel. The other plan would involve Venom tagging along for whatever the insecticons are doing and try to sabatoge the mission to make Shrapnel seem lika failure. Anybody else got any ideas?
Rebel Raven wrote:Well, if Aftershock, Swiftscreech, and/or Rancid want revenge on the Insecticons, then they have ample opportunity to volunteer to help the Sweeps as Venom had. Discord will mention them and Scourge or Discord may enlist them if they feel they can add to the plans, or Venom himself could enlist them to his cause.
Shothole, Salvo, and Snaptrap are pretty much mindless clones of the three original Insecticons, and are fairly unlikely to be under the control of anyone else but the ones they're cloned from.
However, Dirge, Buzzclaw, and Virulent clones if allowed, can be candidates for Venom's force, and add fuel to the fire of the Insecticon Civil War. But those are post G-1.
I wouldn't say that the Sweeps plots for revenge are that broad. It's pretty much a hunt for those that hurt the pride of the Sweeps more than others.
If it was as broad as any Autobot that ever looked at them funny, they'd probably be singling out the Dinobots as well as the twins since they were the force that arrived and turned the tide of battle on the moon.
The problem is the Sweeps don't know where the Dinobots are should they go after them, or the Twins for that matter meaning they have to plot a bit more to go after them effectively.
Simply deploying to hunt them down means they'd pretty much have to assault the Autobot territories and hope they get lucky. That means running a gauntlet of Autobot defenses. Maybe taking squadrons of Sweeps with them to help with the gauntlet which may be feasible.
If they're going through all that trouble they may as well try to take the territory while seeking revenge. Which isn't a bad idea, I think. I'm pretty sure the Decepticons have lead an assault for less.
The Insecticons are on their list of Prey, too, make no mistake, but they're second on Discord's list of revenge since she feels the Insecticons are easier to track down since they won't have to run a gauntlet of Autobot defenses to find them for one thing.
That and she feels infighting is a waste of time, and resources, and thus detrimental to the Empire she's loyal to. Maybe even treasonous.
Furthermore, attacking the Insecticons for revenge would be asking for trouble from the higher ups. I.E. Megatron. Especially if the Sweeps attack with deadly force and odds are they will.
Discord may feel justified in the execution of the Insecticons for their rebellious nature.
Still, it'll come to swatting the Insecticons eventually, and the longer she bides her time the less the Insecticons expect the revenge when it comes, and if the Insecticons aren't expecting it, then it's really a dose of their own medicine.
To get by the high probability of losing their good standing in the empire means they have to be careful about things as opposed to blindly rushing them. A plan like that is grand, but not quite as grand as having to assault an Autobot Territory.
Thirdly, Discord knows Scourge is the strongest Sweep, and she would assume, rightly, Scourge is far and away stronger than any Insecticon, or the Twins. Having him there is certainly going to be a trump card on top of having numbers. Discord knows Scourge has motive or at least going after the twins. That's not to say she's using Scourge, or manipulating him. She's working towards his benefit, and wouldn't dream of depriving Scourge of his revenge on Sunstreaker.
I don't believe the XO is autonomous enough to lead the troops into a grand plan to attack Autobots and/or seek the downfall of the Insecticons without clearing it with the CO since attacking like that without Scourge's approval for any plan will likely make Scourge look bad if they fail, and maybe even if they win simply because they made their move without his approval. That means Scourge is certainly going to take his anger out on the Sweeps which makes Discord look bad because she lead them to one or two beat downs. Discord has plans to not only make certain she is an XO to be proud of, but also to look good doing it.
All in all, Discord, being pretty smart, isn't going to just charge into ill conceived plans like a maniac and risk getting scrapped (That's Rage's job.), or loosing her position, or looking bad.
Keep in mind that it hasn't been that long since the skirmish with the Insecticons in game time, or the battle on the moon or that matter. Even less time since she became Sub-commander. She needs time to put together plans for revenge. On top of that her numbers aren't at 100% as some Sweeps need repairs. I'd like to think she's not idiotic enough to go into combat with wounded soldiers, and that she'll go into battle without taking her best, and hoping for some overkill, and considerate enough to not deprive her best, and CO of their revenge.
Discord relies on plans because she absolutely -has- to be cautious as she's the least equipped Sweep, less durable than most Sweeps, and not as strong as most Sweeps. Granted she has the firepower to be impressive, but she doesn't really have the skill to use it as well as others as far as accuracy goes. Her mind and charisma are her greatest weapons, and she's smart enough to use them instead of getting over confident and thinking she can go punch per punch with he likes of Grimlock, or Optimus Prime.
Personally, I'd like to think there's nothing wrong with an intelligent villain that does more than "RAAR!! SMASH!! SMASH'EM GOOD!!!" attacking recklessly, and possibly screwing up more than they would with a level headed approach.
Having thought about it as I typed, maybe there could be a plan to kill two birds with one stone, formulating an attack on Autobot territory to hunt down the Autobots they seek revenge on, and maybe take the territory, but with the team are the Insecticons. With their numbers made up of themselves, and their drones, they'd be able to strike hard.
Of course, with the recent tension between the 2 forces they could try and make sure their enemies don't leave the field alive via "friendly" fire. Thing is this plan has a very high probability of backfiring.
It'd be almost embarrassing if Discord thought up this plan, then put it into action, and didn't have a backup plan to beat the slag out of the Insecticons as a contingency plan.
Still, Scourge has his plan in mind, and Discord won't go against it unless she's given permission. A win is a win.
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