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I'm asking for advice.. I know some of us will have limited funds but is there anything we amy be allowed to do to help them, like run a secret railroad or something??? I feel bad they can't get a general release of U.S. Starscream up there..

this isn't a PM me and I'll get one for you thread, because I don't want the Mods to get upset since we all promised to not do that here on this forum until they find out how to fix the crap that alot of us went through with getting ripped off, this is a request to find out what we can do as a website fandom or fandom as a whole to help our brotheren in the north out...

maybe a petition to Wal-Mart, or a request to Hasbro to produce more for the Wal-Marts in Canada..? They are so close it's kinda rediculous to believe that they need to pay import prices..

I poked around until I could convince someone to pick one up fo rme. It's coming my way, but yeah...its a huge disappointment that we can't get it up here.

Wow, such narrow mindedness.

What about the UK? Or Australia? Or the rest of the world?

Burn wrote:Wow, such narrow mindedness.

What about the UK? Or Australia? Or the rest of the world?

That's not narrow mindedness, the UK, Australia they can order from the Takara release, and as with most stuff, you guys get exclusives too.. I've seen Hasbro's and takara's European exclusive releases, and not all of them are crap...

But Canada is so close to home, It's kinda disconcerting to know that Wal-Mart isn't shipping any up there.. now mind you if it's a choice of them taking stock from the Wal-Marts we have here in the US to supply up there then I'm against it, but if they over produce and want to ship some up there, then I'm all for that..

Besides the GBP is like double the USD and the Japanese Yen, so I don't have any sympathy for the UK, because even if they have to order it online, they are still getting the Takara one about Half price to what I would have to pay in USD.. so technically they'd be getting the Takara one at about the same price we pay for the US Hasbro version..

as for you guys in Australia... your always screwed on prices!!!

skywarp-2 wrote:

Burn wrote:Wow, such narrow mindedness.

What about the UK? Or Australia? Or the rest of the world?

That's not narrow mindedness, the UK, Australia they can order from the Takara release, and as with most stuff, you guys get exclusives too.. I've seen Hasbro's and takara's European exclusive releases, and not all of them are crap...

But Canada is so close to home, It's kinda disconcerting to know that Wal-Mart isn't shipping any up there.. now mind you if it's a choice of them taking stock from the Wal-Marts we have here in the US to supply up there then I'm against it, but if they over produce and want to ship some up there, then I'm all for that..

The Takara version won't be out till next year. The collector's in the UK will also be ordering the WM version unless they want to wait. I feel bad for everybody, b/c the way it is looking with the hot toy lists, etc- even a Collector's TF will be hard to find.

skywarp-2 wrote:the UK, Australia they can order from the Takara release,

So can Canada.

and as with most stuff, you guys get exclusives too.. I've seen Hasbro's and takara's European exclusive releases, and not all of them are crap...

You mean the stuff that came out back in the 1990's?

Burn wrote:You mean the stuff that came out back in the 1990's?

Decepticon Predator Skyquake
European Autobot Aquaspeeder Jetstorm
European Predator Stalker
Thunderclash
European Transformers Movie 3-Pack
http://seibertron.com/forums/viewtopic. ... 90e121fa7b

2005 European Exclusives:
Autobot Groove Glide Basic Micromaster Same as the Universe release, on Energon card
First Aid Sireen Basic Micromaster Same as the Universe release, on Energon card
Hot Spot Neo-Wheel Basic Micromaster Same as the Universe release, on Energon card
Prowl Road Police Basic Micromaster Same as the Universe release, on Energon card
Red Alert Discharge Basic Micromaster Same as the Universe release, on Energon card
Streetwise Circuit Basic Micromaster Same as the Universe release, on Energon card

2005 Decepticon European Exclusives:
Bonecrusher Crush Bull Basic Micromaster Same as the Universe release, on Energon card
Buckethead Gran Arm Basic Micromaster Same as the Universe release, on Energon card
Scavenger Digger Basic Micromaster Same as the Universe release, on Energon card
Long Haul Treader Basic Micromaster Same as the Universe release, on Energon card
Quickmix Mixing Basic Micromaster Same as the Universe release, on Energon card
Hightower Ironlift Basic Micromaster Same as the Universe release, on Energon card

2007 Transformers the Movie Toys, European multi-packs
Exclusive:

Name(s) Repaint / remold of TakaraTomy counterpart Product code / assortment # Retail price Release date / status Comments
Autobot Jazz, Protoform Optimus Prime & Decepticon Brawl Autobot Jazz (Deluxe), Protoform Optimus Prime (Deluxe) & Decepticon Brawl (Deluxe) 83377 ? August 2007
OUT Repackaged Deluxe Autobot Jazz, Deluxe Protoform Optimus Prime and Deluxe Decepticon Brawl (no repaints)

Towed to Safety (Bumblebee & Longarm)
Bumblebee (Deluxe '74 Camaro) & Longarm (Deluxe) 83534 ? Seen in and out of packaging courtesy of Hasbro (August 2007) Repackaged Deluxe '74 Camaro Bumblebee & Deluxe Longarm (no repaints)

European Hasbro Alternators:

Subaru Impreza WRC - Smokescreen Smokescreen 81301

Subaru Impreza WRX - Silverstreak Smokescreen Streak (with right-hand steering wheel) 81309

Jeep Wrangler - Autobot Hound Hound 81303

Mazda RX-8 - Meister Meister (with right-hand steering wheel) 81305

Honda S2000 - Windcharger Overdrive (with long barrel, different visor and right-hand steering wheel) 81315

Jeep Wrangler - Swindle Autobot Hound Swindle 81312

Chevrolet Corvette - Battle Ravage Autobot Tracks Ravage 81316

Ford Mustang GT - Wheeljack Grimlock Wheeljack 81317

Mazda RX-8 - Shockblast Laserwave (with right-hand steering wheel) 81322

Honda S2000 - Decepticharge Windcharger Black Widow (silver version with long barrel; unreleased) [or "Destron character" (The Transformers Binaltech & TF Collection Complete Guide lucky draw)] 81323

Dodge Viper - Dead End Side Swipe Dead End 81311

Ford Mustang GT - Grimlock Autobot Tracks 81325

Chevrolet Corvette Z06 - Swerve Autobot Tracks 81325

Dodge Ram SRT-10 - Optimus Prime Convoy (Kiss Players) 81327


Honda Civic - Rumble 81351

European Hasbro Cybertron Deluxe Class (mass retail)
NOTES: "Release dates" are based on Hasbro previews.

Name Repaint / remold of Cyber Planet Key Takara counterpart Product code # Country Retail price Release date / status Comments
Hot Shot Speed Planet Exillion 80401 Netherlands
€14.95 July 2005
OUT
Belgium
€14.95 July 2005
OUT
Italy
€16.50 - €19.90 July 2005
OUT
Finland
€17.50 August 2005
OUT
Norway
NOK199 August 2005
OUT
Sweden
SEK199 August 2005
OUT
South Africa
R139.99 August 2005
OUT
Poland
PLN49.90 September 2005
OUT
Greece
€14.99 November 2005
OUT
United Kingdom
£9.99 March 2006
OUT
Dirt Boss Speed Planet Inch Up 80440 Netherlands
€14.95 July 2005
OUT
Belgium
€14.95 July 2005
OUT
Italy
€16.50 - €19.90 July 2005
OUT
Finland
€17.50 August 2005
OUT
Norway
NOK199 August 2005
OUT
Sweden
SEK199 August 2005
OUT
South Africa
R139.99 August 2005
OUT
Poland
PLN49.90 September 2005
OUT
Greece
€14.99 November 2005
OUT
United Kingdom
£9.99 March 2006
OUT
Thundercracker Earth Planet Thundercracker 80844 Netherlands
€14.95 July 2005
OUT
Belgium
€14.95 July 2005
OUT
Italy
€16.50 - €19.90 July 2005
OUT
Finland
€17.50 August 2005
OUT
Norway
NOK199 August 2005
OUT
Sweden
SEK199 August 2005
OUT
South Africa
R139.99 August 2005
OUT
Poland
PLN49.90 September 2005
OUT
Greece
€14.99 November 2005
OUT
United Kingdom
£9.99 March 2006
OUT
Landmine Earth Planet Guard Shell 80892 Netherlands
€14.95 July 2005
OUT
Belgium
€14.95 July 2005
OUT
Italy
€16.50 - €19.90 July 2005
OUT
Finland
€17.50 - €19.90 August 2005
OUT
Norway
NOK199 August 2005
OUT
Sweden
SEK199 August 2005
OUT
South Africa
R139.99 August 2005
OUT
Poland
PLN49.90 September 2005
OUT
Greece
€14.99 November 2005
OUT
United Kingdom
£9.99 March 2006
OUT
Red Alert Earth Planet First Aid 80893 Italy
€16.50 - €19.90 September 2005
OUT
Netherlands
€14.99 September 2005
OUT
Belgium
€14.95 November 2005
OUT
Poland
PLN49.90 ?
OUT
Override Speed Planet Nitro Convoy 80894 Italy
€16.50 - €19.90 September 2005
OUT
Netherlands
€14.99 September 2005
OUT
Belgium
€14.95 November 2005
OUT
Poland
PLN49.90 ?
OUT
Snarl Jungle Planet Fang Wolf 80895 Netherlands
€14.99 November 2005
OUT
United Kingdom
£9.99 January 2006
OUT
Poland
PLN49.90 ?
OUT
Belgium
€14.95 April 2006
OUT
Sideways Planet X (Decepticon) Noise Maze 80347 Netherlands
€14.99 November 2005
OUT
United Kingdom
£9.99 January 2006
OUT
Poland
PLN49.90 ?
OUT
Belgium
€14.95 April 2006
OUT
Portugal
€12.99 July 2006
OUT
Thunderblast Earth Planet Chromia 80898 Netherlands
€14.99 February 2006
OUT
South Africa
R149.99 February 2006
OUT
Poland
PLN49.90 March 2006
OUT
Italy
€15.90 July 2006
OUT
Brimstone Jungle Planet Tera Shaver 80899 Netherlands
€14.99 February 2006
OUT
South Africa
R149.99 February 2006
OUT
Poland
PLN49.90 March 2006
OUT
Italy
€15.90 July 2006
OUT
Crosswise Earth Planet Autovolt 81053 Netherlands
€14.99 February 2006
OUT
South Africa
R149.99 February 2006
OUT
Italy
€15.90 ? 2006
OUT
Downshift Earth Planet 80897 Belgium
€14.95 March 2006
OUT
Netherlands
€14.99 March 2006
OUT
Italy
€16.50 - €19.90 March 2006
OUT
Poland
PLN49.90 March 2006
OUT
Spain
€14.95 March 2006
OUT
United Kingdom
£9.99 April 2006
OUT
Greece
€14.99 May 2006
OUT
South Africa
R149.99 May 2006
OUT
Portugal
€12.99 July 2006
OUT
Cybertron Defense Hot Shot Cybertron Planet (Autobot) Exigeyser 81054 Belgium
€14.95 March 2006
OUT
Netherlands
€14.99 March 2006
OUT
Italy
€16.50 - €19.90 March 2006
OUT
Poland
PLN49.90 March 2006
OUT
United Kingdom
£9.99 April 2006
OUT
Spain
€14.95 March 2006
OUT
Greece
€14.99 May 2006
OUT
South Africa
R149.99 May 2006
OUT
Portugal
€12.99 July 2006
OUT

European Hasbro Cybertron Voyager Class (mass retail)
NOTES: "Release dates" are based on Hasbro previews.

Name Repaint / remold of Cyber Planet Key Takara counterpart Product code # Country Retail price Release date / status Comments
Crumplezone Speed Planet Land Bullet 80912 Netherlands
€29.95 July 2005
OUT
Belgium
€29.95 July 2005
OUT
Italy
€29.00 - €35.00 July 2005
OUT
Finland
€35.00 August 2005
OUT
Norway
NOK349 August 2005
OUT
Poland
PLN85 September 2005
OUT
Greece
€24.99 November 2005
OUT
Ireland
€27.99 January 2006
OUT
United Kingdom
£19.99 January 2006
OUT
Vector Prime with Safeguard Universal (special unique version; unpainted) Vector Prime with Roots (different color scheme) 80913 Netherlands
€29.95 July 2005
OUT
Belgium
€29.95 July 2005
OUT
Italy
€29.00 - €35.00 July 2005
OUT
Finland
€35.00 August 2005
OUT
Norway
NOK349 August 2005
OUT
Poland
PLN85 September 2005
OUT
Greece
€24.99 November 2005
OUT
Ireland
€27.99 January 2006
OUT
United Kingdom
£19.99 January 2006
OUT
Mudflap Earth Planet Demolishor 80814 Italy
€29.00 - €35.00 September 2005
OUT
South Africa
R249.99 September 2005
OUT
Netherlands
€29.95 October 2005
OUT
Belgium
€50.00 November 2005
OUT
United Kingdom
£19.99 April 2006
OUT
Leobreaker Jungle Planet Liger Jack 80816 Italy
€29.00 - €35.00 September 2005
OUT
South Africa
R249.99 September 2005
OUT
Netherlands
€29.95 October 2005
OUT
Belgium
€50.00 November 2005
OUT
United Kingdom
£19.99 April 2006
OUT
Evac Earth Planet Live Convoy 80915 Italy
€29.00 - €35.00 February 2006
OUT
South Africa
R299.99 February 2006
OUT
Poland
PLN85 February 2006
OUT
Netherlands
€29.95 February 2006
OUT
United Kingdom
£19.99 April 2006
OUT
Dark Crumplezone Crumplezone Speed Planet Arm Bullet (unreleased) 80917 South Africa
R299.99 April 2006
OUT
Portugal
€26.90 July 2006
OUT
Netherlands
€29.95 July 2006
OUT
Cybertron Defense Scattorshot Cybertron Planet (Autobot) Back Gild 80918 South Africa
R299.99 April 2006
OUT
Portugal
€26.90 July 2006
OUT
Netherlands
€29.95 July 2006
OUT

European Hasbro Cybertron Ultra Class (mass retail)
NOTES: "Release dates" are based on Hasbro previews.

Name Repaint / remold of Cyber Planet Key Takara counterpart Product code # Country Retail price Release date / status Comments
Jetfire Earth Planet Dreadrock 80920 Sweden
SEK429 August 2005
OUT
Norway
NOK? August 2005
OUT
Belgium
€37.50 August 2005
OUT
South Africa
R309.99 August 2005
OUT
Poland
PLN120 September 2005
OUT
Greece
€29.99 November 2005
OUT
United Kingdom
£24.99 January 2006
OUT
Scourge Jungle Planet Flame Convoy 80921 Sweden
SEK429 August 2005
OUT
Norway
NOK? August 2005
OUT
Belgium
€37.50 August 2005
OUT
South Africa
R309.99 August 2005
OUT
Poland
PLN120 September 2005
OUT
Greece
€29.99 November 2005
OUT
United Kingdom
£24.99 January 2006
OUT
Dark Scorponok Jungle Planet 80922 Netherlands
€39.99 December 2005
OUT
United Kingdom
£24.99 January 2006
OUT
Poland
PLN120 ? 2006
OUT
South Africa
R309.99 March 2006
OUT
Ireland
€36.00 March 2006
OUT
Italy
€39.00 July 2006
OUT
Wing Saber Cybertron Planet (Autobot) Sonic Bomber 81185 United Kingdom
£24.99 July 2006
OUT
Sky Shadow Jetfire Earth Planet 81198 United Kingdom
£24.99 July 2006
OUT

European Hasbro Cybertron Leader Class (mass retail)
NOTES: "Release dates" are based on Hasbro previews.

Name Repaint / remold of Cyber Planet Key Takara counterpart Product code # Country Retail price Release date / status Comments
Optimus Prime "Earth Planet" (Cybertron [Autobot, special unique version; unpainted]) Galaxy Convoy 80924 Italy
€59.00 - €80.00 July 2005
OUT
Netherlands
€59.95 July 2005
OUT
Belgium
€59.95 July 2005
OUT
Finland
€56.00 August 2005
OUT
Sweden
SEK599 August 2005
OUT
Norway
NOK499 August 2005
OUT
Poland
PLN199 September 2005
OUT
Ireland
€57.99 January 2006
OUT
Megatron "Earth Planet" (Cybertron [Decepticon, special unique version]) Master Megatron 80925 Italy
€61.90 August 2005
OUT
United Kingdom
£? April 2006
OUT

European Hasbro Cybertron Supreme Class (mass retail)
NOTES: "Release dates" are based on Hasbro previews.

Name Repaint / remold of Cyber Planet Key Takara counterpart Product code # Country Retail price Release date / status Comments
Starscream Earth Planet (gold version) [& Cybertron Planet (Decepticon)] Starscream (or Super Starscream [USA Edition]) 80926 Belgium
€83.00 - €105.00 October 2005
OUT
Netherlands
€50.00 January 2006
OUT
Ireland
€74.99 January 2006
OUT US packaging
United Kingdom
£49.99 February 2006
OUT US packaging
Poland
PLN230 ?
OUT

European Hasbro Legends of Cybertron (mass retail)
NOTES: "Release dates" are based on Hasbro previews.

Series Name Repaint / remold of Takara EZ Collection counterpart Product code # Country Retail price Release date / status Comments
1 Optimus Prime Galaxy Convoy 80985 Sweden
SEK? February 2006
OUT
Poland
PLN19.90 February 2006
OUT
Belgium
€5.95 February 2006
OUT
United Kingdom
£2.99 April 2006
OUT
1 Megatron Master Megatron 80986 Sweden
SEK? February 2006
OUT
Poland
PLN19.90 February 2006
OUT
Belgium
€5.95 February 2006
OUT
United Kingdom
£2.99 April 2006
OUT
1 Hot Shot 80987 Sweden
SEK? February 2006
OUT
Poland
PLN19.90 February 2006
OUT
Belgium
€5.95 February 2006
OUT
United Kingdom
£2.99 April 2006
OUT
1 Starscream Starscream 80988 Sweden
SEK? February 2006
OUT
Poland
PLN19.90 February 2006
OUT
Belgium
€5.95 February 2006
OUT
United Kingdom
£2.99 April 2006
OUT
2 Jetfire 80991 Poland
PLN19.90 May 2006
OUT
Belgium
€5.95 June 2006
OUT
United Kingdom
£2.99 July 2006
OUT
2 Evac 80992 Poland
PLN19.90 May 2006
OUT
Belgium
€5.95 June 2006
OUT
United Kingdom
£2.99 July 2006
OUT
2 Scourge 80993 Poland
PLN19.90 May 2006
OUT
Belgium
€5.95 June 2006
OUT
United Kingdom
£2.99 July 2006
OUT
2 Leobreaker 80994 Poland
PLN19.90 May 2006
OUT
Belgium
€5.95 June 2006
OUT
United Kingdom
£2.99 July 2006
OUT
3 Galvatron Megatron Master Galvatron (Dengeki Hobby Magazine exclusive) 81167 Poland
PLN19.90 July 2006
OUT
3 Soundwave 81168 Poland
PLN19.90 July 2006
OUT
3 Vector Prime 81169 Poland
PLN19.90 July 2006
OUT
3 Red Alert 81171 Poland
PLN19.90 July 2006
OUT

European Hasbro Cybertron MicroMasters (mass retail)NOTES: US versions came in "Universe" packaging. European versions of Series 1 (Protectobots) and Series 2 (Constructicons) came in "Energon" packaging.

Name(s) Repaint / remold of Takara counterpart Product code # Country Retail price Release date / status Comments
Railspike (series 3) Desire (Japanese Operation Combination only) Desire (Micromaster reissue) 29485 Netherlands
€4.99 August 2005
OUT Merges with Overload, Tankor, Midnight Express, Swindle and Rapid Run to form Rail Racer
Sweden
SEK69 August 2005
OUT
Belgium
€4.99 August 2005
OUT
Greece
€4.99 November 2005
OUT
Ireland
€4.99 January 2006
OUT
United Kingdom
£2.97 (or £9.99; sold in bundles of 4) January 2006
OUT
Poland
PLN19.90 ?
OUT
Overload (series 3) San Diego (Japanese Operation Combination only) San Diego (Micromaster reissue) 29486 Netherlands
€4.99 August 2005
OUT Merges with Railspike, Tankor, Midnight Express, Swindle and Rapid Run to form Rail Racer
Sweden
SEK69 August 2005
OUT
Belgium
€4.99 August 2005
OUT
Greece
€4.99 November 2005
OUT
Ireland
€4.99 January 2006
OUT
United Kingdom
£2.97 (or £9.99; sold in bundles of 4) January 2006
OUT
Poland
PLN19.90 ?
OUT
Tankor (series 3) Atlan (Japanese Operation Combination only) Atlan (Micromaster reissue) 29487 Netherlands
€4.99 August 2005
OUT Merges with Railspike, Overload, Midnight Express, Swindle and Rapid Run to form Rail Racer
Sweden
SEK69 August 2005
OUT
Belgium
€4.99 August 2005
OUT
Greece
€4.99 November 2005
OUT
Ireland
€4.99 January 2006
OUT
United Kingdom
£2.97 (or £9.99; sold in bundles of 4) January 2006
OUT
Poland
PLN19.90 ?
OUT
Midnight Express (series 3) Windy (Japanese Operation Combination only) Windy (Micromaster reissue) 29488 Netherlands
€4.99 August 2005
OUT Merges with Railspike, Overload, Tankor, Swindle and Rapid Run to form Rail Racer
Sweden
SEK69 August 2005
OUT
Belgium
€4.99 August 2005
OUT
Greece
€4.99 November 2005
OUT
Ireland
€4.99 January 2006
OUT
United Kingdom
£2.97 (or £9.99; sold in bundles of 4) January 2006
OUT
Poland
PLN19.90 ?
OUT
Swindle (series 3) Convertor (Japanese Operation Combination only) Convertor (Micromaster reissue) 29489 Netherlands
€4.99 August 2005
OUT Merges with Railspike, Overload, Tankor, Midnight Express and Rapid Run to form Rail Racer
Sweden
SEK69 August 2005
OUT
Belgium
€4.99 August 2005
OUT
Greece
€4.99 November 2005
OUT
Ireland
€4.99 January 2006
OUT
United Kingdom
£2.97 (or £9.99; sold in bundles of 4) January 2006
OUT
Poland
PLN19.90 ?
OUT
Rapid Run (series 3) Raise (Japanese Operation Combination only) Raise (Micromaster reissue) 29490 Netherlands
€4.99 August 2005
OUT Merges with Railspike, Overload, Tankor, Midnight Express and Swindle to form Rail Racer
Sweden
SEK69 August 2005
OUT
Belgium
€4.99 August 2005
OUT
Greece
€4.99 November 2005
OUT
Ireland
€4.99 January 2006
OUT
United Kingdom
£2.97 (or £9.99; sold in bundles of 4) January 2006
OUT
Poland
PLN19.90 ?
OUT
Fireflight (series 4) Flanker (Japanese Operation Combination only) Flanker (Micromaster reissue) 29519 United Kingdom
£3.00 March 2006
OUT Merges with Air Raid, Skydive, Silverbolt, Storm Jet and Ro-tor to form Superion
Ireland
€4.99 March 2006
OUT
Belgium
€4.99 March 2006
OUT
Netherlands
€3.95 May 2006
OUT
Air Raid (series 4) Missile Run (Japanese Operation Combination only) Missile Run (Micromaster reissue) 29520 United Kingdom
£3.00 March 2006
OUT Merges with Fireflight, Skydive, Silverbolt, Storm Jet and Ro-tor to form Superion
Ireland
€4.99 March 2006
OUT
Belgium
€4.99 March 2006
OUT
Netherlands
€3.95 May 2006
OUT
Skydive (series 4) Super Sonic (Japanese Operation Combination only) Super Sonic (Micromaster reissue) 29521 United Kingdom
£3.00 March 2006
OUT Merges with Fireflight, Air Raid, Silverbolt, Storm Jet and Ro-tor to form Superion
Ireland
€4.99 March 2006
OUT
Belgium
€4.99 March 2006
OUT
Netherlands
€3.95 May 2006
OUT
Silverbolt (series 4) Falcon (Japanese Operation Combination only) Falcon (Micromaster reissue) 29522 United Kingdom
£3.00 March 2006
OUT Merges with Fireflight, Air Raid, Skydive, Storm Jet and Ro-tor to form Superion
Ireland
€4.99 March 2006
OUT
Belgium
€4.99 March 2006
OUT
Netherlands
€3.95 May 2006
OUT
Storm Jet (series 4) Raker (Japanese Operation Combination only) Raker (Micromaster reissue) 29523 United Kingdom
£3.00 March 2006
OUT Merges with Fireflight, Air Raid, Skydive, Silverbolt and Ro-tor to form Superion
Ireland
€4.99 March 2006
OUT
Belgium
€4.99 March 2006
OUT
Netherlands
€3.95 May 2006
OUT
Ro-Tor (series 4) Chain Gun (Japanese Operation Combination only) Chain Gun (Micromaster reissue) 29524 United Kingdom
£3.00 March 2006
OUT Merges with Fireflight, Air Raid, Skydive, Silverbolt and Storm Jet to form Superion
Ireland
€4.99 March 2006
OUT
Belgium
€4.99 March 2006
OUT
Netherlands
€3.95 May 2006
OUT


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COMMEMORATIVE SERIES
European Hasbro Commemorative Series (Toys'R'Us exclusives)
Name(s) Reissue of Takara counterpart Product code # Country Retail price Release date / status Comments
Optimus Prime Optimus Prime Convoy 80608 United Kingdom
£19.99 March 2003
OUT
Ultra Magnus Ultra Magnus Ultra Magnus 80635 United Kingdom
£19.99 March 2003
OUT
Rodimus Major Hot Rod Hot Rodimus 80654 United Kingdom
£9.99 March 2003
OUT
Starscream Starscream Starscream 80658 United Kingdom
£27.99 March 2003
OUT
Powermaster Optimus Prime (with Apex Armor & Ginrai) Powermaster Optimus Prime with HiQ & C-309 Godbomber (Japanese Masterforce only) God Ginrai 80660 United Kingdom
£39.99 September 2003
OUT Based on Japanese God Ginrai rather than on US Powermaster Optimus Prime
Autobot Jazz Jazz Meister 80674 United Kingdom
£19.99 September 2003
OUT
Prowl Prowl Prowl 80681 United Kingdom
£14.99 April 2006
OUT
Inferno Inferno Inferno 80683 United Kingdom
£14.99 April 2006
OUT


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I could go on... Europe gets action.. and not always alot of exclusives but they do get them...

I'm not sure things like the Commemorative Series and Energon Micromasters count as they were available in other countries (like the US, except the Micromasters had different packaging). Similarly, the movie toys are available elsewhere, they're just packaged differently.

skywarp-2 wrote:

Burn wrote:Wow, such narrow mindedness.

What about the UK? Or Australia? Or the rest of the world?

That's not narrow mindedness, the UK, Australia they can order from the Takara release

And Canadians can't? You do realize Takara don't sell Transformers products anywhere outside of Asia? I mostly only order Takara products because Hasbro either don't release them domestically in the UK, take for ever to do so or when they do release them charge twice the price they charge in the US.

skywarp-2 wrote:and as with most stuff, you guys get exclusives too..

Do we? I think the last time we got any exclusives was the early 90's during G1-G2! Since then the US has had many figures released that never made it overseas. If anyone gets more exclusives its the US and Japan not Europe. Most of those 'exclusives' you mentioned above are just packaging variants.

skywarp-2 wrote:Besides the GBP is like double the USD and the Japanese Yen,

Yes and everything is twice the price, do you not understand how economy works or something? Right now I can get 2 dollars to my British pound, this is true, however were as you might pay £5 USD for you McDonalds meal I play £5 GBP, so who's getting the better deal?

skywarp-2 wrote:so I don't have any sympathy for the UK, because even if they have to order it online, they are still getting the Takara one about Half price to what I would have to pay in USD.... so technically they'd be getting the Takara one at about the same price we pay for the US Hasbro version..

Erm.. you really don't get it do you, if we were both to order the Takara version we'd both pay the same regarless of the currency we pay in. Besides your maths is all wrong anyway! Hasbro's MP Starscream is $60 USD at retail yes? That's £30 GBP, and 6,900 Yen. Cheapest I've seen the Takara version is 10,000 Yen that's £42 GBP, and $87 USD so technically we'd all be better of buying the US one. However for those of us not fortunate enough to live in the US Wal-Mart exclusives have a tendency of being snapped up by American eBay scalpers pushing the online price up dramatically! The long and short of it is the US fans, as usual, will be getting it cheaper than anyone else on the planet and unlike the Canadians those of us who live overseas don't have the luxury of being able to pop across the border to pick one up. So forgive me for having no sympathy for the Canadians and taking offense to your above narrow minded poorly conceived badly researched statement.

Yours AK

Alex Kingdom wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:

Burn wrote:Wow, such narrow mindedness.

What about the UK? Or Australia? Or the rest of the world?

That's not narrow mindedness, the UK, Australia they can order from the Takara release

And Canadians can't? You do realize Takara don't sell Transformers products anywhere outside of Asia? I mostly only order Takara products because Hasbro either don't release them domestically in the UK, take for ever to do so or when they do release them charge twice the price they charge in the US.

here is another example of not knowing what your taling about..

If it's released in your country it's going to be released at the price that is comparable to ours in currency.. so for a toy to be 5 dollars here, it will be 5 GBP there, which sucks for you because 5 GBP is 10 dollars here, but that's what you get as a domestic release!! Why would hasbro sell their toys in Your Country for 2.50 GBP?? when it's worth 5GBP, even if it's not the same currency rate, it's what trade is all about..

tell me I don't know economics, you should look into an internship at Oxford in basic world economics!!!

What I meant was simple, that Takara's Release is available through internet shops, which I have found ship them at a fairly decent price.. like HLJ for example..and I was referencing this one instance of the US Masterpiece Starscream...

Alex Kingdom wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:and as with most stuff, you guys get exclusives too..

Do we? I think the last time we got any exclusives was the early 90's during G1-G2! Since then the US has had many figures released that never made it overseas. If anyone gets more exclusives its the US and Japan not Europe. Most of those 'exclusives' you mentioned above are just packaging variants.

Uhhh yeah you did get some exclusives, recently as a matter of fact:
2007 Transformers the Movie Toys, European multi-packs
Exclusive:
Name(s) Repaint / remold of TakaraTomy counterpart Product code / assortment # Retail price Release date / status Comments
Autobot Jazz, Protoform Optimus Prime & Decepticon Brawl Autobot Jazz (Deluxe), Protoform Optimus Prime (Deluxe) & Decepticon Brawl (Deluxe) 83377 ? August 2007
OUT Repackaged Deluxe Autobot Jazz, Deluxe Protoform Optimus Prime and Deluxe Decepticon Brawl (no repaints)

Towed to Safety (Bumblebee & Longarm)
Bumblebee (Deluxe '74 Camaro) & Longarm (Deluxe) 83534 ? Seen in and out of packaging courtesy of Hasbro (August 2007) Repackaged Deluxe '74 Camaro Bumblebee & Deluxe Longarm (no repaints)

Alex Kingdom wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:Besides the GBP is like double the USD and the Japanese Yen,

Yes and everything is twice the price, do you not understand how economy works or something? Right now I can get 2 dollars to my British pound, this is true, however were as you might pay £5 USD for you McDonalds meal I play £5 GBP, so who's getting the better deal?

How do I not understand economics, do you not think before you speak?? pay close attention to the Bold type!!!
That's because those Mc Donalds are in your country, what I'm talking about is your ability to import the toy from takara's version at a fair price.. somewhat comparable to the Hasbro Version...sheesh..

Alex Kingdom wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:so I don't have any sympathy for the UK, because even if they have to order it online, they are still getting the Takara one about Half price to what I would have to pay in USD.... so technically they'd be getting the Takara one at about the same price we pay for the US Hasbro version..

Erm.. you really don't get it do you, if we were both to order the Takara version we'd both pay the same regarless of the currency we pay in. Besides your maths is all wrong anyway! Hasbro's MP Starscream is $60 USD at retail yes? That's £30 GBP, and 6,900 Yen. Cheapest I've seen the Takara version is 10,000 Yen that's £42 GBP, and $87 USD so technically we'd all be better of buying the US one. However for those of us not fortunate enough to live in the US Wal-Mart exclusives have a tendency of being snapped up by American eBay scalpers pushing the online price up dramatically! The long and short of it is the US fans, as usual, will be getting it cheaper than anyone else on the planet and unlike the Canadians those of us who live overseas don't have the luxury of being able to pop across the border to pick one up.

Ok, so you pay what 12 GBP over the 30 GBP it would be to get the USA version.. cry me a river, you know the Takara One will be slightly different and possibly of a better paint application then the US version, which I would have to pay double for what I get here at Wal-Mart in the US, if I import it from Japan..

so your 12 GBP to own a Takara Version, versus paying an eBay scalper..uhhh no brainer, for the UK order from Takara tomy..

Canadians don't have the GBP to fall back on to shield them from the ebay scalpers nor do they have the ability to import from Japan at a cheap rate, as you do because of the GBP being so high..

So for a Canadian ordering off ebay sucks, and ordering from Japan sucks..and not all of them can run accross the border.. I'm being practicle..

Your Being "Smart"

Alex Kingdom wrote:So forgive me for having no sympathy for the Canadians and taking offense to your above narrow minded poorly conceived badly researched statement.

Yours AK

oh what ever... read my sig!!!!

Bad Skywarp2, BAD!

I tink I'm just going to put this in every post youmake.

Someone complained about this thread..

As long as no buying or selling takes place it is alright.
The minute a trade/sale/etc.. is offered the thread is closed and an immediate 3 day ban will be initiated to all parties involved.

I am not trying to be a dick I am supporting Ryan's decision.

I wish I could run across the border to pick up cool stuff :\.

The only thing I've been able to get from a U.S. department store is Voyager IRonhide when my girlfriend went there for a day with her parents.. (haha that was weird, her trying to explain why she is buying a toy for her boyfriend to her parents )

Bonger wrote:Bad Skywarp2, BAD!

I tink I'm just going to put this in every post youmake.

yes, but I am bad occasionally..

but that really burns me up when people jump on this banner of what they "Believe" is correct without examining the full facts.. and then to attack my intelligence and knowledge ta boot!! I give as good as I get sir..

and if that makes me bad..

well then so be it..

in this case, the shoe definitely fits!!

I wonder who would complain about a thread as harmless as this one.

There is no wheeling and dealing going on here.

Briggs wrote:I wish I could run across the border to pick up cool stuff :\.

The only thing I've been able to get from a U.S. department store is Voyager IRonhide when my girlfriend went there for a day with her parents.. (haha that was weird, her trying to explain why she is buying a toy for her boyfriend to her parents )

Oooh, awkward the next itme you met them huh??

Burn wrote:Wow, such narrow mindedness.

What about the UK? Or Australia? Or the rest of the world?

Phhhht, what rest of the world? This is America.

I'm kidding, Burn. Please don't go off on me.....

Cyber Bishop wrote:Someone complained about this thread..

As long as no buying or selling takes place it is alright.
The minute a trade/sale/etc.. is offered the thread is closed and an immediate 3 day ban will be initiated to all parties involved.

I am not trying to be a dick I am supporting Ryan's decision.

no it's cool, do you want me to enlarge the "this is not a trade, PM me and buy thread warning" I placed in the beginning?? to emphasize it...?

skywarp-2 wrote:Uhhh yeah you did get some exclusives, recently as a matter of fact:
2007 Transformers the Movie Toys, European multi-packs
Exclusive:
Name(s) Repaint / remold of TakaraTomy counterpart Product code / assortment # Retail price Release date / status Comments
Autobot Jazz, Protoform Optimus Prime & Decepticon Brawl Autobot Jazz (Deluxe), Protoform Optimus Prime (Deluxe) & Decepticon Brawl (Deluxe) 83377 ? August 2007
OUT Repackaged Deluxe Autobot Jazz, Deluxe Protoform Optimus Prime and Deluxe Decepticon Brawl (no repaints)

Towed to Safety (Bumblebee & Longarm)
Bumblebee (Deluxe '74 Camaro) & Longarm (Deluxe) 83534 ? Seen in and out of packaging courtesy of Hasbro (August 2007) Repackaged Deluxe '74 Camaro Bumblebee & Deluxe Longarm (no repaints)

These aren't really exclusives, though, as the toys are available in other countries. They're just repackaged.

MP Anime Starscream is a toy that, at the moment, seems to be only available to Japan and the U.S. (I don't yet know if it's coming out in the UK, Australia or anywhere else).

Briggs wrote:I wonder who would complain about a thread as harmless as this one.

There is no wheeling and dealing going on here.

Probably the same person who complains that i place too many images in my posts!!! NARK-SQUEELER!!!!!

Leonardo wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:Uhhh yeah you did get some exclusives, recently as a matter of fact:
2007 Transformers the Movie Toys, European multi-packs
Exclusive:
Name(s) Repaint / remold of TakaraTomy counterpart Product code / assortment # Retail price Release date / status Comments
Autobot Jazz, Protoform Optimus Prime & Decepticon Brawl Autobot Jazz (Deluxe), Protoform Optimus Prime (Deluxe) & Decepticon Brawl (Deluxe) 83377 ? August 2007
OUT Repackaged Deluxe Autobot Jazz, Deluxe Protoform Optimus Prime and Deluxe Decepticon Brawl (no repaints)

Towed to Safety (Bumblebee & Longarm)
Bumblebee (Deluxe '74 Camaro) & Longarm (Deluxe) 83534 ? Seen in and out of packaging courtesy of Hasbro (August 2007) Repackaged Deluxe '74 Camaro Bumblebee & Deluxe Longarm (no repaints)

These aren't really exclusives, though, as the toys are available in other countries. They're just repackaged.

MP Anime Starscream is a toy that, at the moment, seems to be only available to Japan and the U.S. (I don't yet know if it's coming out in the UK, Australia or anywhere else).

Ok I understand what your saying, but if it's packaged in a different package, and sold in just Europe, and I can't get it here.. then yeah it's an exclusive...not the best, but still an exclusive..

I do believe you guys will eventually see that US Starscream at retail some time down the line.. Hasbro can make a huge amount of money.. my question is did the 20th anniversary prime ever make it to retail awhile back??

I doth my cap well argued. I think I grasped the wrong end of the stick somewhat. How red is my face

All I can say is thank God the UK get a better deal than somebody!

Yours AK

Cyber Bishop wrote:Someone complained about this thread..

As long as no buying or selling takes place it is alright.
The minute a trade/sale/etc.. is offered the thread is closed and an immediate 3 day ban will be initiated to all parties involved.

I am not trying to be a dick I am supporting Ryan's decision.

Gee whiz, I understand the ideas at least behind nixing Carbombya, but this is just slingin' ideas around to help out other collectors, and people are complaining? Boy. I know, I know, I understand there's rules and stuff, but still.

Oh well, let's kill off this 'help each other out' sentiment and get back to what makes this hobby great in the first place then: Forget everyone else, as long as I get mine, I'm good.

skywarp-2 wrote:

Briggs wrote:I wonder who would complain about a thread as harmless as this one.

There is no wheeling and dealing going on here.

Probably the same person who complains that i place too many images in my posts!!! NARK-SQUEELER!!!!!

Maybe they all think you're a dumb ass, because well, your name is Skywarp after all.

Bonger wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:

Briggs wrote:I wonder who would complain about a thread as harmless as this one.

There is no wheeling and dealing going on here.

Probably the same person who complains that i place too many images in my posts!!! NARK-SQUEELER!!!!!

Maybe they all think you're a dumb ass, because well, your name is Skywarp after all.

and Bonger doesn't make me think of eating large quantities of food, and saying DUUUoooDee.. or make me think of Shaggy from Scooby Doo..

Make sure you pull the plug so you get a full chamber..and change the water frequently.. wouldn't want some braincells to survive now would we..??


oh and...

Alex Kingdom wrote:I doth my cap well argued. I think I grasped the wrong end of the stick somewhat. How red is my face

All I can say is thank God the UK get a better deal than somebody!

Yours AK

No worries ole Chap!


not a big deal...really, and I don't have hate for Brits by the way, I actually was born one.. But yeah the UK, as of right now, if you import will get a better deal then Canadians or Australians..unfortunately... but Australia is too far away for me to make a difference.. but here in the US, Canada is close by so we can try to brain storm on some way to get them to the masses in the red leafed north..

and also AK, your a good debate opponent too..

skywarp-2 wrote:

Bonger wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:

Briggs wrote:I wonder who would complain about a thread as harmless as this one.

There is no wheeling and dealing going on here.

Probably the same person who complains that i place too many images in my posts!!! NARK-SQUEELER!!!!!

Maybe they all think you're a dumb ass, because well, your name is Skywarp after all.

and Bonger doesn't make me think of eating large quantities of food, and saying DUUUoooDee.. or make me think of Shaggy from Scooby Doo..

Make sure you pull the plug so you get a full chamber..and change the water frequently.. wouldn't want some braincells to survive now would we..??


oh and...

Alex Kingdom wrote:I doth my cap well argued. I think I grasped the wrong end of the stick somewhat. How red is my face

All I can say is thank God the UK get a better deal than somebody!

Yours AK

No worries ole Chap!


not a big deal...really, and I don't have hate for Brits by the way, I actually was born one.. But yeah the UK, as of right now, if you import will get a better deal then Canadians or Australians..unfortunately... but Australia is too far away for me to make a difference.. but here in the US, Canada is close by so we can try to brain storm on some way to get them to the masses in the red leafed north..

and also AK, your a good debate opponent too..

Or maybe it is just a Dutch sir name, like Van Gogh's wife.