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News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:08 pm

We can't say if it's Megatron who's in the movie but we can say one thing for sure, the design leaked will most definitely be in it!
And no I am not in the mood to discuss my reasoning for this AGAIN.

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:20 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Saber Prime wrote: That being said, the Alternators are the most realistic Transformers in exsistance. I don't even own any of them (no money) but I know two things about them. Their vehicle modes look like real vehicles and their robot modes look like Transforming robots.

I agree with you.....but they wouldnt be the most effective fighters.

Most of the alternators are very top heavy and that would be an issue in a war.

Take an alternator, and have it touch its right hand to the far side of its left shoulder.

A Transformer does not have to look like it transforms. Because many of the TFs in G1 didn't look like they transform.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:12 pm

Dead Metal wrote:We can't say if it's Megatron who's in the movie but we can say one thing for sure, the design leaked will most definitely be in it!
And no I am not in the mood to discuss my reasoning for this AGAIN.

Can you please tell me why??? :-P

Shadowman wrote:Take an alternator, and have it touch its right hand to the far side of its left shoulder.

Hehe

Shadowman wrote:A Transformer does not have to look like it transforms. Because many of the TFs in G1 didn't look like they transform.

Not sure who that was directed twards but I'm not sure if I agree about the G1's.

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:23 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Shadowman wrote:A Transformer does not have to look like it transforms. Because many of the TFs in G1 didn't look like they transform.

Not sure who that was directed twards but I'm not sure if I agree about the G1's.

Many TFs in G1 didn't look like they transformed, or it wasn't apparently what they'd transform into. To be fair, most of them were season 3 characters, like Galvatron and Ultra Magnus.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:46 pm

Shadowman wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Shadowman wrote:A Transformer does not have to look like it transforms. Because many of the TFs in G1 didn't look like they transform.

Not sure who that was directed twards but I'm not sure if I agree about the G1's.

Many TFs in G1 didn't look like they transformed, or it wasn't apparently what they'd transform into. To be fair, most of them were season 3 characters, like Galvatron and Ultra Magnus.

I disagree.

I felt many of the G1 toys were very apparent in what they changed into, and I felt the season 3 figures [and afterwards] were the eazies to figure out.

Galvatron for on was very predictably a tf and I didnt even need the instruction sheat to change him.

Ultra Magnus, whos cab was the same as Optimus, was even eazier to identify as a TF because the white paint scheme made the seams stick out like a 20ft pimple.And the trailer looked nothing like a trailer.

If any tf's were hard to identify as TF's it would have to be the bulk of the diaclone line........basicly most of the cars and plains from season 1 and 2.

At least they looked like cars and plains with out un-identifiable parts.

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:08 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Shadowman wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Shadowman wrote:A Transformer does not have to look like it transforms. Because many of the TFs in G1 didn't look like they transform.

Not sure who that was directed twards but I'm not sure if I agree about the G1's.

Many TFs in G1 didn't look like they transformed, or it wasn't apparently what they'd transform into. To be fair, most of them were season 3 characters, like Galvatron and Ultra Magnus.

I disagree.

I felt many of the G1 toys were very apparent in what they changed into, and I felt the season 3 figures [and afterwards] were the eazies to figure out.

Galvatron for on was very predictably a tf and I didnt even need the instruction sheat to change him.

Ultra Magnus, whos cab was the same as Optimus, was even eazier to identify as a TF because the white paint scheme made the seams stick out like a 20ft pimple.And the trailer looked nothing like a trailer.

If any tf's were hard to identify as TF's it would have to be the bulk of the diaclone line........basicly most of the cars and plains from season 1 and 2.

At least they looked like cars and plains with out un-identifiable parts.

I was talking more about the show, not the toys, since the toys were obvious.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Sat Feb 14, 2009 3:30 pm

Shadowman wrote:I was talking more about the show, not the toys, since the toys were obvious.

Ahh....then I can see what your talking about with some of the characters.

by **VamproxMyriad** » Sat Feb 14, 2009 3:44 pm

Kaiser Convoy wrote:
crashbarbarian wrote:1. The toy marketing and description on back of packaging

crashbarbarian wrote:But, so bay isn't "lying" he'll be named either Galvatron or "the fallen" but he's def in this movie!

ok umm just to point out that you've kinda contradicted yourself saying that megatron will be in the movie but he won't.

if it were to be galvatron, then hasbro would have released official packaging saying that it was galvatron, not megatron.

yes there appears to be evidence in the teaser trailer that it is megatron thats pinning sam down, but i wouldn't really run out and openly declare it yet that megs is indeed making a comeback... i would take it with a pinch of salt, but then again, thats just me

[quote="That was Starscream, not Galvatron."

by **VamproxMyriad** » Sat Feb 14, 2009 3:47 pm

Kaiser Convoy wrote:
crashbarbarian wrote:1. The toy marketing and description on back of packaging

crashbarbarian wrote:But, so bay isn't "lying" he'll be named either Galvatron or "the fallen" but he's def in this movie!

ok umm just to point out that you've kinda contradicted yourself saying that megatron will be in the movie but he won't.

if it were to be galvatron, then hasbro would have released official packaging saying that it was galvatron, not megatron.

yes there appears to be evidence in the teaser trailer that it is megatron thats pinning sam down, but i wouldn't really run out and openly declare it yet that megs is indeed making a comeback... i would take it with a pinch of salt, but then again, thats just me

That was STARSCREAM not GALVATRON!

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Sat Feb 14, 2009 4:24 pm

Mugic wrote:That was STARSCREAM not GALVATRON!

Starscream doesn't have hands like that.

News Credits: 1 · by **Saber Prime** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:53 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Saber Prime wrote:BTW It looks like one of the new Autobots, Skids, is going to be a prius.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHtjGBXi ... re=related
OK so actully it's a Beat but it looks like a prius.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL4wfilTe-o

Do you like that car???

Either you didn't watch the second video in which case you need to before makeing comments like that or you did watch it and you're implying I'm gay.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:13 pm

Saber Prime wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Saber Prime wrote:BTW It looks like one of the new Autobots, Skids, is going to be a prius.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHtjGBXi ... re=related
OK so actully it's a Beat but it looks like a prius.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL4wfilTe-o

Do you like that car???

Either you didn't watch the second video in which case you need to before makeing comments like that or you did watch it and you're implying I'm gay.

I'll admit I didnt watch the entire 2nd vid but I dont believe likeing a car makes anyone gay.

I was honestly asking if you like the car.

To tell the truth I'm not one of those "car crazy" guys.

Anyway I just watched the first vid again and it doesnt say that Skids is a "BEAT" not a Prius.

Unless a "BEAT" is a sub-line of Prius.

But looking at Skids and Mudflap.....I think their car modes look pretty cool.

News Credits: 1 · by **Saber Prime** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:25 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Anyway I just watched the first vid again and it doesnt say that Skids is a "BEAT" not a Prius.

Unless a "BEAT" is a sub-line of Prius.

BTW It looks like one of the new Autobots, Skids, is going to be a prius.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHtjGBXi ... re=related
OK so actully it's a Beat but it looks like a prius.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL4wfilTe-o

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:50 pm

Saber Prime wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Anyway I just watched the first vid again and it doesnt say that Skids is a "BEAT" not a Prius.

Unless a "BEAT" is a sub-line of Prius.

BTW It looks like one of the new Autobots, Skids, is going to be a prius.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHtjGBXi ... re=related
OK so actully it's a Beat but it looks like a prius.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL4wfilTe-o

Quote tags are messed up bud.........anyway I dont think they look that bad.

by **Fananga** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:38 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Shadowman wrote:I was talking more about the show, not the toys, since the toys were obvious.

Ahh....then I can see what your talking about with some of the characters.

But some were very obvious. Cybertron Bumblebee (as in G1, before earth) still had VW Bug wheel arches for ankles despite being a hover car and the seekers also looked exactly the same in Robot mode as they do on Earth, despite changing into flying Pyramids on Cybertron.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:28 am

Fananga wrote:
But some were very obvious. Cybertron Bumblebee (as in G1, before earth) still had VW Bug wheel arches for ankles despite being a hover car and the seekers also looked exactly the same in Robot mode as they do on Earth, despite changing into flying Pyramids on Cybertron.

Not to sound rude but.......if you had been following the conversation you would see that Bumblebee isint one of the characters he was refering too......

Shadowman wrote:Many TFs in G1 didn't look like they transformed, or it wasn't apparently what they'd transform into. To be fair, most of them were season 3 characters, like Galvatron and Ultra Magnus.

As you can see the characters he pointed to season 3 characters

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:13 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Fananga wrote:
But some were very obvious. Cybertron Bumblebee (as in G1, before earth) still had VW Bug wheel arches for ankles despite being a hover car and the seekers also looked exactly the same in Robot mode as they do on Earth, despite changing into flying Pyramids on Cybertron.

Not to sound rude but.......if you had been following the conversation you would see that Bumblebee isint one of the characters he was refering too......

Shadowman wrote:Many TFs in G1 didn't look like they transformed, or it wasn't apparently what they'd transform into. To be fair, most of them were season 3 characters, like Galvatron and Ultra Magnus.

As you can see the characters he pointed to season 3 characters

A few of them were season 1 and 2 characters, like Huffer, who looks like he would be a dump truck, but ends up being a semi cab.

But even so, I never said everyone in G1 didn't look like they'd transform; the Seekers, the Dinobots, it was pretty clear what they'd transform into.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:00 pm

I know we went over this already but I had to post this pic......

Saber Prime wrote: The original Fallen is much more menicing looking where as the movie version looks like a tooth pick.

Looks "menacing" to me :grin:

As sic-fi creatures go it looks pretty cool.Its just not what you would expect from a Decepticon or TF's in general.

News Credits: 1 · by **Saber Prime** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:33 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Quote tags are messed up bud.........anyway I dont think they look that bad.

No they weren't. The first quote was you, the second quote was me from an earlier post. I didn't right anything new in that post, it was only quotes.

News Credits: 1 · by **Saber Prime** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:40 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:I know we went over this already but I had to post this pic......

Saber Prime wrote: The original Fallen is much more menicing looking where as the movie version looks like a tooth pick.

Looks "menacing" to me

As sic-fi creatures go it looks pretty cool.Its just not what you would expect from a Decepticon or TF's in general.

That just made him look worse. I thought that at least the movie version would be on fire. Yeah there's fire in the picture but it's not comeing from his body, it's the surrounding area. It's more than likely he caused the fire around him but still not the same as him actully being on fire himself.

I can't belive it, a character that's constantly in flames, something Bay should of loved to do, and he managed to screw that up too.

by **Fananga** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:43 pm

yeah but then all we would have had is the Cybertronian Torch. I know we've seen TF/Marvel crossovers before but thats goin too far

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:10 pm

Saber Prime wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Quote tags are messed up bud.........anyway I dont think they look that bad.

No they weren't. The first quote was you, the second quote was me from an earlier post. I didn't right anything new in that post, it was only quotes.

Sorry.

by **oldskooltf** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:49 pm

Saber Prime wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:I know we went over this already but I had to post this pic......

Saber Prime wrote: The original Fallen is much more menicing looking where as the movie version looks like a tooth pick.

Looks "menacing" to me

As sic-fi creatures go it looks pretty cool.Its just not what you would expect from a Decepticon or TF's in general.

That just made him look worse. I thought that at least the movie version would be on fire. Yeah there's fire in the picture but it's not comeing from his body, it's the surrounding area. It's more than likely he caused the fire around him but still not the same as him actully being on fire himself.

I can't belive it, a character that's constantly in flames, something Bay should of loved to do, and he managed to screw that up too.

You're already saying Bay "screwed it up"? The movie's not even out yet. We've only seen a teaser.

I mean, you're entitled to your opinion and all, but I'll reserve my final judgement for after I've seen the movie.

Give it a chance. And remember that it's not just Michael Bay at work -- it's the people who work with him too -- all the artists and computer graphics guys... many of which are big TF fans!

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:53 pm

oldskooltf wrote:Give it a chance. And remember that it's not just Michael Bay at work -- it's the people who work with him too -- all the artists and computer graphics guys... many of which are big TF fans!

I agree in giving it a chance but the fact that artists and computer graphics guys claim to be fans means nothing to me.

The writters of the last film claimed to be big TF fans as well and we know how the characterizations turned out.

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:40 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
oldskooltf wrote:Give it a chance. And remember that it's not just Michael Bay at work -- it's the people who work with him too -- all the artists and computer graphics guys... many of which are big TF fans!

I agree in giving it a chance but the fact that artists and computer graphics guys claim to be fans means nothing to me.

The writters of the last film claimed to be big TF fans as well and we know how the characterizations turned out.

Plus in the interviews they didn't get Scorpinok's character origin or name right.