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Postby skywarp-2 » Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:05 am

I still like Transformers better then gundam..
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Postby Nekoman » Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:45 am

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publicvisage wrote:As for Revoltech, are they only doing series under a specific brand? If so, that's highly annoying. I just got my first two Revoltechs the other day, and was pleased.


What was your revoltech figure, what was it like? I’m interested in the line but don’t have any yet. There’s no specific brand as far as I know, but I still doubt Bandai would give out the Rights for Kaiyodo to make Gundam revoltech just because Bandai wouldn’t profit from it as they’re Gundam stuff will sell better than to give Kaiyodo the rights, would be nice though.

Eva-04 and Mass Produced Eva(with Wings); both from Evangelion, of course.

I'm quite impressed so far. Articulation is amazing. All joints are tight and are able to move naturally. The sculpting is top-notch, and the painting is beautiful. They come with a variety of interchangeable hands, which really boosts the number of poses the figure can take.

The quality of the plastic also seems pretty good, and the joints don't seem like they will snap easily. I wouldn't recommend playing with them, though I would recommend them highly for collectors.

I don't have them in super-dynamic poses at the moment, and my lighting is bad, but for what it's worth:


Ooooooh, the Eva-04 was one I was thinking about, but I really like King Gainer so that will probably my first. I also like Giant Robo but the face looks little odd, so I’ll probably start with the two you picked or King Gainer, Thanks for the pics.
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Postby Professor Smooth » Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:51 am

Deadpool. wrote:Speaking of which, has anybody here seen the "Speed Grade" Gundams before?

They're fully painted and are 1/200 scale, with a display base.


Yeah, they're sold everywhere. Toy stores, hobby shops, super markets, convenience stores, and they're popular in UFO Catchers. They usually retail for about 700 yen. I almost picked up the Wing Gundam one, but I abstained. They do look pretty nice, though.
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Postby 5kywarp » Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:37 am

skywarp-2 wrote:I think the closest Gundam to Jetfire has got to be Zeta Gundam or Zeta EX plus.. there are a couple of versions.. and though Zeta Gundam is sleek and cool, his altmode is a space ship similar to that of Jetfire.. if he was painted int hat coloring, he might look really close to a Jetfire in some respects..


Here ya Go!!:
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That's the one I was thinking!
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Postby SpacerAM2 » Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:21 am

1/144 scale does it take long to build ,and how big is it in inches? Is that good for a beginner like me? Would it be too difficult?
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Postby SpacerAM2 » Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:52 am

rob_charb wrote:
SpacerAM2 wrote:This is the one I'm aiming for. If I succeed building it and I like it. I want to get Char's Red Zaku 2 next.

http://www.amazon.com/Bandai-MG-RX-78-2 ... B00005BXIB


Honestly, I would not get that version of Gundam. That looks to be the original MG release from way back in the 90's. While a decent kit, it pales in comparison to newer versions of the RX-78-2. If you want a good Gundam, go for the RX-78-2 ver OYW. That is, hands down, the best MG Gundam available. Or, you could try to get the Gundam ver 1.5. It's not as good as ver OYW, but it's pretty decent nonetheless. The one you're currently looking at will have limited poseability, not as high quality plastic and need a lot of work/painting to look good.

When building them, you'll need a good pair of snips, a good file and some fine sandpaper. If you want to do the panel lines, I recommend you get a Gundam Panel Marker to start out with. They go on very easily and can be erased using a good white rubber eraser. All MG come in, for the most part, accurate colours. However, there are always places that need painting. You get stickers for things like the eyes and sensors and sometimes for other places, but usually the foil stickers suck quite badly and ruin the look of a MG. I would highly recommend painting the sensors and eyes, it will look leagues better.

I've been doing Gundam models for over 7 years now, so if you have any questions, feel free to ask.




Thanks! What do you think about this one?

http://cgi.ebay.com/GUNDAM-RX-78-2-CLOS ... dZViewItem
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Postby rob_charb » Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:02 am

I built that one too :)

It's pretty simple to assemble and, from the looks of the box, it's the American release, so the manual will should be in English.

As it's a 1/144 scale, it's not too big, probably tops out at around 6-7 inches (I don't actually have it on hand to get an accurate size...I'm in Taiwan and it's in Canada). It won't require much in the way of painting to look good, but if memory serves, the red line under the eyes may need to painted. Also, you will definitely want to paint the eyes and sensors. I recommend a flat black for the area around the eyes and either a glossy green acrylic for the eyes and sensors or a bright green lacquer.

It won't have as decent poseability as the later MG versions, but for a beginner kit, it's a good idea. Oh, and you won't have to screw in anything.
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Postby SpacerAM2 » Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:12 am

Thanks! I'm a beginner so I want to start with something easy first. One more question pls. What about this one here? http://www.animecastle.com/showproduct. ... teid=10050
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Postby rob_charb » Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:53 am

It's the same kit as the one on Ebay you asked about :D
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Postby SpacerAM2 » Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:58 am

Oh, so they are both the same. Ok! :grin:
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Postby not2old4toys » Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:59 pm

Check my youtube link below for a couple of Perfect Grades. Very time consuming to build, but the end resuld it very rewarding. RX-78-2 is a personal fave of mine.
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Postby SpacerAM2 » Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:18 pm

Thanks for sharing not2old4toys! Interesting stuff. How long did it take you to build Gundam RX-78-2?
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Postby SpacerAM2 » Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:46 pm

mosh wrote:I got like 30 figures and 2 models from across the Gundam continuitity. G Gundam has some sweet designs even though the series was meh. My fave is my MSIa Sazabi from MSG: Chars Counterattack. Havent bothered with the SEED franchise though. Universal century all the way :P



Universal century is the one I'm focused in too. I bought the first volume of Wing at first back in 2001. I did my research over the net that the original Uc and it's side stories were better than the newer stuff. I returned it the next day. I'm glad I didn't opened it. Bought the Ms8th team 1st volume instead. Liked it ,and later bought the other 3 volumes. Afterwards I got the 0083 series four volumes. Then got the 0080 war in a pocket two volumes. Then got the Char's counterattack film. A few years later bought the whole original MSG 0079 series. Now I'm trying to get Zeta. It's great stuff to watch. I recommend any of these. But first start with the original MSG 0079. Then the 8th Ms team 0079. Then 0080 war in a pocket. Then 0083 gundam. Then Zeta 0087. Then the Char's counterattack 0093 film. I heard ZZ after Zeta wasn't too good. Heard it might get redone. Might turn out better this time. So we'll see.
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Postby not2old4toys » Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:31 am

SpacerAM2 wrote:Thanks for sharing not2old4toys! Interesting stuff. How long did it take you to build Gundam RX-78-2?


A couple of weekends. Maybe I'm slow though...
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Postby 5kywarp » Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:00 am

not2old4toys can you check this eBay item out: -

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0169373612

Going on your advice, I going to get this one.
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Postby SpacerAM2 » Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:15 pm

not2old4toys wrote:
SpacerAM2 wrote:Thanks for sharing not2old4toys! Interesting stuff. How long did it take you to build Gundam RX-78-2?


A couple of weekends. Maybe I'm slow though...


Those model kits take time. So rushing never helps. We want them to come out right.
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Postby SpacerAM2 » Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:20 pm

rob_charb wrote:It's the same kit as the one on Ebay you asked about :D





Do I need these tools to do all the Gundam model kits? Like plastic nippers, exacto knife ,and permanent markers. I can't take off the parts from the trees using my hands? Will it damage the parts if I try using my hands?
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Postby not2old4toys » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:19 pm

5kywarp wrote:not2old4toys can you check this eBay item out: -

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0169373612

Going on your advice, I going to get this one.


That is a GREAT kit ( maybe even THE best Master Grade kit IMHO)! if it is your first Gundam kit, it will have you hooked!

Yes get plastic nippers or whatever you call them... & take your time with it. Though this one should be a weekender no problem.
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Postby SpacerAM2 » Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:11 pm

not2old4toys wrote:
5kywarp wrote:not2old4toys can you check this eBay item out: -

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0169373612

Going on your advice, I going to get this one.


That is a GREAT kit ( maybe even THE best Master Grade kit IMHO)! if it is your first Gundam kit, it will have you hooked!

Yes get plastic nippers or whatever you call them... & take your time with it. Though this one should be a weekender no problem.



Thanks! :)
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Postby SpacerAM2 » Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:00 pm

I've heard the plastic nippers, exacto knife ,and permanent markers are hard to find. Unless you go to a hobby store. There aren't hobby stores close to where I live. Any chance for me to find them in other department stores or hardware stores? Like which ones for instance?
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Postby not2old4toys » Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:46 pm

SpacerAM2 wrote:I've heard the plastic nippers, exacto knife ,and permanent markers are hard to find. Unless you go to a hobby store. There aren't hobby stores close to where I live. Any chance for me to find them in other department stores or hardware stores? Like which ones for instance?


I thing good snippers are the hardest to find. Can't remember where I got mine but if you have a choice, get angled ones! Mine are spring loaded too which helps.
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Postby SpacerAM2 » Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:39 am

not2old4toys wrote:
SpacerAM2 wrote:I've heard the plastic nippers, exacto knife ,and permanent markers are hard to find. Unless you go to a hobby store. There aren't hobby stores close to where I live. Any chance for me to find them in other department stores or hardware stores? Like which ones for instance?


I thing good snippers are the hardest to find. Can't remember where I got mine but if you have a choice, get angled ones! Mine are spring loaded too which helps.



Hmmmmmmmmm, I see. The photo helps me identify it better. I appreciate it. :)
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Postby rob_charb » Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:21 am

Spacer, I can't stress this enough: You need tools. If you don't use the right tools, you will end up with a horrible looking Gundam.

The basic must-have tools are snips, a file and some fine sandpaper. You need the file to rub down the areas where you cut the parts from the trees. Then you use the sandpaper to go over the area again to reduce any scratches and other markings you made using the file.

Should you decide to go with the 1/144 HG Gundam, you'll be able to assemble it in an afternoon with no painting. Add some basic painting you're looking at a weekend.

I would not recommend using markers to paint the kit. I generally use enamel or lacquer paints on my Gundams. They are very strong paints and don't smudge as markers will.

Now, if you decide to get the MG RX-78-2 ver OYW, you're looking at about two weeks to do a good job on it. That's with basic painting and detailing.

One thing to note is that you will still have seamlines when you assemble your kit. If you want to get rid of the seamlines, you're adding at least another week of work to your kit. But end result is worth it as you won't see those ugly lines running down the middle of your Gundams thighs and arms (in the case of the 1/144) or along the sides of the head (in the case of the MG).
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Postby 5kywarp » Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:01 am

What are these markers you speak of? Are they for putting the fine black lines in the amour detail?
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Postby SpacerAM2 » Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:57 am

Permanent markers with a thin point to make the mobile suits more detailed by tracing over the lines. Black ink is more suitable for that. The one I'm getting is already painted in reference to the Gundam plastic parts.
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