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News Credits: 1082 · by **Tigertrack** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:01 pm

It's easy to see the link, but the question is, did HLJ make the mistake or did BBTS? Or maybe neither of them did, and each one knows something that they other does not.

D-04 Henkei Thrust http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT30356

BigBadToyStore.Com has Henkei D-04 listed as Ramjet, so it is unlikely that they are both correct, and probably more likely that BBTS is correct since the only Thrust mold that currently exists is in the hands of HASBRO and FunPub.

Feel free to discuss this case of possible mistaken identity!

Oh, and just in case you wondering, HLJ also has:
Prowl http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT31612
Sunstreaker http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT31609
Skyfire http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT30355

The seekers sure do get our attention, don't they?

News Credits: 1 · by **Mechabreaker** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:09 pm

It has to be a mistake, though, if HLJ is correct, then a Thrust that is within the affordable priceline for the fans that did not go to botcon last year will finally get a chance to get the other three seekers. Which would be pure joygasm, but I doubt that HLJ is correct. But then again, only time will tell!

by **Glitcher** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:11 pm

YEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS!!!! :grin:

At last, the Botcon Seekers are available at retail! Well, at least one of them is. But don't think this has put an end to the speculation; there are still a few more Seekers to release. Let's hope Thundercracker and Dirge join the Henkei line, too. Things are looking up now.

EDIT: Actually, I wonder if I might have taken the bait a little prematurely. I thought D-04 was confirmed to be Ramjet. I'm gonna kill someone if this is a typo. :-x

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:14 pm

People shouldn't get pissed off, nor excited until they see pics.

There is after all, nothing to say yet that he'll have the retooled BotCon wings.
But i'll still do a little happy dance, not to spite those who got the BotCon ones, but because I can now get a Classics Thrust, regardless of retooling or not.

News Credits: 7 · by **Geekee1** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:14 pm

*Taking that back until this issue is resolved*

News Credits: 387 · by **Nekoman** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:18 pm

I’m pissed, but that wont stop me from buying it if its true.

First, what ever came of the listing HLJ had up for movie Leader class Starscream and deluxe Prowl? We never saw either figure.

Don’t dance until we see pictures, and of all the figures the first one we hear of is the one with the most extensive retooling.

It may be called Thrust, but that doesn’t mean it’ll look like the exclusive.

EDIT: THIS CAN BE CONFIRMED FALSE. D 04 IS ALREADY CONFIRMED AS RAMJET.

BBTS

News Credits: 2 · by **Tekka** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:21 pm

I'm willing to put money on this being a mistake. Of all the ones to come out Thrust was the one I thought to be least likely.

News Credits: 3 · by **Archanubis** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:30 pm

It's probably a mistake. Then again, it is possible that HLJ or Takara/Tomy made their own mold.

And who says that a Henkei Thrust would be exactly the same as the Botcon one? Could be a light shade of red/maroon.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:39 pm

Who's more reliable? HLJ or BBTS? I'd lean more towards HLJ.

But we'll wait and see. Henkai may simply do a recolour of Ramjet in Thrust colours.

News Credits: 409 · by **Stormrider** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:58 pm

HLJ has made a mistake. e-Hobby is listing D-04 as Ramjet. http://www.e-hobby.co.jp/cgi-bin/omc?port=33301&req=PRODUCT&code=tf_c_10

TFSource.com also has Ramjet: http://www.tfsource.com/

And the Japanese hobby magazines have pictures of Ramjet in the latest issue.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:11 pm

Well that's enough for me then. Certaintly rare of HLJ to stuff up though.

News Credits: 3604 · by **Seibertron** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:13 pm

Burn wrote:Who's more reliable? HLJ or BBTS? I'd lean more towards HLJ.

But we'll wait and see. Henkai may simply do a recolour of Ramjet in Thrust colours.

You're kidding me, right? BBTS is the best at what they do. They are certainly the most reliable.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:16 pm

Did I say BBTS wasn't realiable? No. I simply said I found HLJ to be MORE reliable. That's not saying BBTS is unreliable at all.

Both sites are pretty much on-par really. I just have a preference for HLJ. Nothing more, nothing less. In this case though I was obviously proven wrong.

News Credits: 8 · by **Liege Evilmus** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:17 pm

I'm taking the chance, I just ordered 2.

Will Liege get burned, or will Liege be happy, only time will tell :-?

Even if it is RamJet, I still need 2 more anyway, as I don't have one sealed and I need half a one to kitbash a Thrust(I found some cool little fans to make the turbines.

So either way...

News Credits: 2 · by **Tekka** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:23 pm

Liege Evilmus wrote:I'm taking the chance, I just ordered 2.

Will Liege get burned, or will Liege be happy, only time will tell

You are going to get yourself two chromey Ramjets.

News Credits: 3 · by **ShGarland_1383** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:40 pm

The uncertainty of this has me taking a wait and see position on this. If Henkei D-04 really is confirmed to be Ramjet, pass because I don't feel I need another one.

Burn wrote:But we'll wait and see. Henkai may simply do a recolour of Ramjet in Thrust colours.

This would be the only way I don't get a Thrust. If the Botcon mold will see Japanese relase, however, HobbyLinkJapan could easily be wrong about it being D-04 (which is what I've seen others kind of claiming in this thread). If it's not D-04, I'd still like to see TakaraTomy release a chromed version of Botcon Thrust.

Either way, I'd like it proven once and for all one way or another before I jump on any band wagons about it.

by **Defcon!** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:58 pm

It would be cool to get a Thrust without paying the insane price tag that the botcon ones go for.

News Credits: 4 · by **capellamusic** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:10 pm

Liege Evilmus wrote:I'm taking the chance, I just ordered 2.

Will Liege get burned, or will Liege be happy, only time will tell

Even if it is RamJet, I still need 2 more anyway, as I don't have one sealed and I need half a one to kitbash a Thrust(I found some cool little fans to make the turbines.

So either way...

No worries, you can cancel the pre-orders on HLJ without problems. I did the same after reporting these news to seibertron.com and if it's an error and it's Ramjet instead I'll just cancel the pre-order.

I'd rather want a G1 Encore Thrust though, and I feel it comming... =P~

News Credits: 9 · by **Sowndwave76** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:20 pm

I would take a Thrust even if it was a total repaint of Ramjet.

But, I truly think it's a mistake, and the reality is that it's a Ramjet.

News Credits: 8 · by **NuclearConvoy** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:15 pm

You do all realize that if it is "Thrust", that doesn't necesarrily mean that it will have the FunPub botCon wings, right? Even if it is Thrust it might just be the Dirge/Ramjet mold painted in Thrust colours.

by **Tyrenol** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:17 pm

SOLD!!

The powers that be had better not screw with me. Us. Whoever. If it's a delayed April-Fools joke, then heads will definitely roll.

News Credits: 38 · by **Sunstar** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:29 pm

I hope this is true. I want those seekers.

News Credits: 1 · by **Craven Knight** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:48 pm

Seibertron wrote:
Burn wrote:Who's more reliable? HLJ or BBTS? I'd lean more towards HLJ.

But we'll wait and see. Henkai may simply do a recolour of Ramjet in Thrust colours.

You're kidding me, right? BBTS is the best at what they do. They are certainly the most reliable.

Is this the same BBTS that said they were getting Henkei "Dirge" in a recent newsletter? :lol:

They ment Ramjet ofcoarse.

by **bcm77** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:04 am

I'm not going to order until I see pics confirming that it is Thrust and I won't settle for a repaint of Ramjet either. I hope Thrust,Dirge and Thundercracker get released in the Henkei range,even if the color schemes are different to the Botcon ones.
One way of doing Dirge so that the Botcon elitists don't complain too much would be to give a set of proper G1 style wings as opposed to a straight repaint of Ramjet.