>
shop.seibertron.com amazon.seibertron.com Facebook Twitter X YouTube Pinterest Instagram Myspace LinkedIn Patreon Podcast RSS
This page runs on affiliate links — your clicks may earn us a few Shanix. Want the full transmission? Roll out to our Affiliate Disclosure.

High school football coach charged with players death

Welcome to the General Discussion area where just about anything goes! This area is designed to discuss all matters and does not necessarily have to be Transformers related. Please keep topics relevant.

High school football coach charged with players death

Postby Moonlight » Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:59 am

There were several times I was very afraid for our football players. The coach would make them pratice in full gear even though it was over 100 degrees outside. I had no idea what I was going to do if it happened while Jack was playing. Thankfully he is no longer in that school so I do not have to worry about it.


http://highschool.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=903519
Image
Moonlight
Vehicon
Posts: 352
Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:37 pm
Location: SW Missouri

Re: High school football coach charged with players death

Postby Me, Grimlock! » Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:21 am

Weapon: Stinger Missile
At face value, I'd agree with the ruling, but that article doesn't give many details.
User avatar
Me, Grimlock!
Godmaster
Posts: 1655
Joined: Fri May 23, 2003 3:22 pm
Location: A special place in your heart
Firepower: 1

Re: High school football coach charged with players death

Postby Shadowman » Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:39 am

Motto: "May God have mercy on my enemies, because I sure as hell won't."
If they can sue a guy for that, doesn't that mean that every basic training instructor in the US is now vunerable as well? Because if you think Football training in August is bad (And since Football is a winter sport, it could be worse), you should military training in August.
Sidekick= Saiya_Maximal
Steam Nickname: Big Chief Devil Hawk Fireball
Image
Shadowman's awesome site for cool people.
Shadowman's awesome comic for cool people.
"Falling is really just flying downward and out of control."
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
User avatar
Shadowman
God Of Transformers
Posts: 14263
News Credits: 2
Joined: Mon Nov 18, 2002 5:54 pm
Location: Look! A distraction!

Re: High school football coach charged with players death

Postby Dr. Caelus » Sat Jan 24, 2009 2:27 pm

Shadowman wrote:If they can sue a guy for that, doesn't that mean that every basic training instructor in the US is now vunerable as well? Because if you think Football training in August is bad (And since Football is a winter sport, it could be worse), you should military training in August.


Bear in mind, drill sergeants don't abuse minors.
Check out my books, Titanomachies and Divine Retribution, on my blog!
Dr. Caelus
Faction Commander
Posts: 4643
News Credits: 6
Joined: Tue Jun 24, 2003 11:32 pm
Location: Knoxville, TN

Re: High school football coach charged with players death

Postby Me, Grimlock! » Sat Jan 24, 2009 2:57 pm

Weapon: Stinger Missile
Shadowman wrote:If they can sue a guy for that, doesn't that mean that every basic training instructor in the US is now vunerable as well? Because if you think Football training in August is bad (And since Football is a winter sport, it could be worse), you should military training in August.


I know there's probably a wealth of differences here, but I honestly can't think of one except for the minors thing Caelus mentioned and the fact that the military is probably held under a different set of rules. Image
User avatar
Me, Grimlock!
Godmaster
Posts: 1655
Joined: Fri May 23, 2003 3:22 pm
Location: A special place in your heart
Firepower: 1

Re: High school football coach charged with players death

Postby Grimpoo » Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:18 pm

Wavers....
Grimpoo

Re: High school football coach charged with players death

Postby Moonlight » Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:22 pm

I found more information on it. They said it was 97 degrees outside. Jacks old school still had practice when it got to 105 degrees. I live in an area of the country that thinks football is what life is all about. I sure hope this scares the schools into some common sense.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... AD95SJIA00
Image
Moonlight
Vehicon
Posts: 352
Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:37 pm
Location: SW Missouri

Re: High school football coach charged with players death

Postby Dr. Caelus » Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:40 pm

amudpiewtea wrote:I found more information on it. They said it was 97 degrees outside. Jacks old school still had practice when it got to 105 degrees. I live in an area of the country that thinks football is what life is all about. I sure hope this scares the schools into some common sense.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... AD95SJIA00


I doubt it. This isn't the first time something like this has happened.

Me, Grimlock! wrote:I know there's probably a wealth of differences here, but I honestly can't think of one except for the minors thing Caelus mentioned and the fact that the military is probably held under a different set of rules. Image


I don't know how it works when a family sues the military - does that fall under a court martial or a civilian court?

Still, the minor-status should make a huge difference, since there are plenty of things you can do to an 18 year old you can't do to a 17 (or less) year old.

Plus there are differences that would actually become relevant in a hearing:

1) An adult (even a young one) is more capable of handling extreme exertion & environments than a kid.

2) An adult can be expected to know his own limits and adhere to them, even if it means incurring the wrath of the D.I. and potentially facing disciplinary action. A minor is considered 'incompetent' (for lack of a better term), and can't be expected to defy the orders of the adult authority figure who is responsible for his care and safety.

3) A drill sergeant is training his troops to survive battle in some of the most hellish places on earth - if he's soft on them, the consequences potentially include someone's death. A football coach is preparing his kids for a recreational activity - if he's soft on them, the consequences are diminished bragging rights for him.

4) Death is a risk that you are expected to be aware of when you join the military. Less so for a recreational activity like football, waivers or not. Troops die in wars, but that's not justification for someone dying in a child's game.
Check out my books, Titanomachies and Divine Retribution, on my blog!
Dr. Caelus
Faction Commander
Posts: 4643
News Credits: 6
Joined: Tue Jun 24, 2003 11:32 pm
Location: Knoxville, TN


Return to General Discussion


[ Incoming message. Source unknown. ] No Signal - Please Stand By [ Click to attempt signal recovery... ]


Transformers and More @ The Seibertron Store

Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "TRANSFORMERS #21 Cvr G Energon Universe Image Comics 2025 0425IM425 21G Howard"
TRANSFORMERS #21 C ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "MX-00 UNICRON + DEAD END Transformers Micron Legends Armada Takara 2003 New"
MX-00 UNICRON + DE ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "ENERGON GALVATRON Transformers Legacy United Core Class Hasbro 2024 New"
ENERGON GALVATRON ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "RED ALERT Transformers Cybertron Legends of Cybertron complete 2005 240906A"
RED ALERT Transfor ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "TRANSFORMERS #21 Cvr F Energon Universe Image Comics 2025 0425IM424 21F Howard"
TRANSFORMERS #21 C ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "ARMADA GALVATRON Transformers Legacy United Leader Class Hasbro 2024 New"
ARMADA GALVATRON T ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "Transformers Legacy Evolution STRONGARM Deluxe Class RID Universe Hasbro 2023 Ne"
Transformers Legac ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "SIDE BURN Transformers Legacy United Deluxe Class RID Hasbro 2024 New"
SIDE BURN Transfor ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "THUNDERCRACKER Transformers Cybertron Legends of Cybertron complete 2006 230719A"
THUNDERCRACKER Tra ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "TIDAL WAVE + Mini-Con RAMJET Transformers Armada Giga-Con complete 2003 250416"
TIDAL WAVE + Mini- ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "ARMADA WHEELJACK Transformers Legacy United Deluxe Class Hasbro 2025 New"
ARMADA WHEELJACK T ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "REPUGNUS Transformers Cybertron Scout complete + s48r key Hasbro 2006 250427"
REPUGNUS Transform ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "SIDEWAYS Transformers Cybertron deluxe complete + dj51 key Hasbro 2005 250415"
SIDEWAYS Transform ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "GAME OLDER Transformers BotBots Series 4 Retro Replays 2020 game cartridge"
GAME OLDER Transfo ...
These are affiliate links. We may earn a commission.
Details subject to change. See listing for latest price and availability.

Featured Products on Amazon.com

Buy "Transformers: Generations Power of the Primes Voyager Class Starscream" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Power of the Primes Punch-Counterpunch and Prima Prime" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Studio Series 09 Voyager Class Movie 2 Thundercracker" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Power of The Primes Voyager Class Elita-1" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Power of The Primes Deluxe Class Autobot Moonracer" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Deluxe 20 Mercenary Action Figure" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Computron Collection Pack" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Studio Series 07 Leader Class Movie 4 Grimlock" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Deluxe Class Mirage Figure" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Studio Series 05 Voyager Class Movie 2 Optimus Prime" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Leader Class Ultra Magnus Figure(Discontinued by manufacturer)" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Titans Return Titan Master Skytread" on AMAZON
These are affiliate links. We may earn a commission.
Details subject to change. See listing for latest price and availability.