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News Credits: 2 · by **An_de** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:32 am

Alex Kingdom wrote:
An_de wrote:
Alex Kingdom wrote:
An_de wrote:Poorly it's true. I hope Bay doesn't change the story much...

Erm..he already has hasn't he? The Transformers didn't crash land in the Ark, they didn't lay offline for millions of years until a volcanic erruption reawoke Teletran-1, they look like twistied metal car crash debris in robot mode, the matrix is called the allspark and its a giant cube, Jazz and Megatron have already kicked the bucket, etc..etc.. I think that ship has sailed.

Yours AK

I was talking besides that. And you forgot to mention that AUTOBOT = AUTONOMOUS ROBOT

Well if you think from this point forward Bays going to suddenly become strictly faithful to G1 continuity then you're in for another disappointing movie and Bay really could not care less.

Yours AK

I agree. Who knows what the third movie could be like?

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:37 am

We could have Masterforce; bracelets and transtectors with the return of Scorponok as Black Zarak. Yes, it would be this good.

News Credits: 2 · by **An_de** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:14 am

Leonardo wrote:We could have Masterforce; bracelets and transtectors with the return of Scorponok as Black Zarak. Yes, it would be this good.

Yessssss

News Credits: 2 · by **An_de** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:45 am

If Unicron plays in the second or third movie... Now that would be cool!

by **Deadpool.** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:47 am

An_de wrote:If Unicron plays in the second or third movie... Now that would be cool!

No, it wont.
In fact, there will be less interesting storylines after Unicron turns up.
Bay will probably just use the chance to cause more screenhavic and explosions.

News Credits: 2 · by **An_de** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:54 am

The Fallen. wrote:
An_de wrote:If Unicron plays in the second or third movie... Now that would be cool!

No, it wont.
In fact, there will be less interesting storylines after Unicron turns up.
Bay will probably just use the chance to cause more screenhavic and explosions.

Probably...

by **Deadpool.** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:56 am

An_de wrote:
The Fallen. wrote:
An_de wrote:If Unicron plays in the second or third movie... Now that would be cool!

No, it wont.
In fact, there will be less interesting storylines after Unicron turns up.
Bay will probably just use the chance to cause more screenhavic and explosions.

Probably...

And what if Bay turns Unicron into just a tank? It wouldnt seem suitable.

And if Unicron is giant metal planet, normal movie-goers wont find that too logical either.

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:57 am

The Fallen. wrote:
An_de wrote:
The Fallen. wrote:
An_de wrote:If Unicron plays in the second or third movie... Now that would be cool!

No, it wont.
In fact, there will be less interesting storylines after Unicron turns up.
Bay will probably just use the chance to cause more screenhavic and explosions.

Probably...
And what if Bay turns Unicron into just a tank? It wouldnt seem suitable.

It happened in the Cybertron toy line.

by **Deadpool.** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:59 am

Leonardo wrote:
The Fallen. wrote:
An_de wrote:
The Fallen. wrote:
An_de wrote:If Unicron plays in the second or third movie... Now that would be cool!

No, it wont.
In fact, there will be less interesting storylines after Unicron turns up.
Bay will probably just use the chance to cause more screenhavic and explosions.

Probably...
And what if Bay turns Unicron into just a tank? It wouldnt seem suitable.

It happened in the Cybertron toy line.

That's what i meant.

News Credits: 2 · by **An_de** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:03 am

The Fallen. wrote:
Leonardo wrote:
The Fallen. wrote:
An_de wrote:
The Fallen. wrote:
An_de wrote:If Unicron plays in the second or third movie... Now that would be cool!

No, it wont.
In fact, there will be less interesting storylines after Unicron turns up.
Bay will probably just use the chance to cause more screenhavic and explosions.

Probably...
And what if Bay turns Unicron into just a tank? It wouldnt seem suitable.

It happened in the Cybertron toy line.

That's what i meant.

What if Bay makes his alt mode to be just a car, or a bus, or Nokia...

by **Deadpool.** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:15 am

An_de wrote:
The Fallen. wrote:
Leonardo wrote:
The Fallen. wrote:
An_de wrote:
The Fallen. wrote:
An_de wrote:If Unicron plays in the second or third movie... Now that would be cool!

No, it wont.
In fact, there will be less interesting storylines after Unicron turns up.
Bay will probably just use the chance to cause more screenhavic and explosions.

Probably...
And what if Bay turns Unicron into just a tank? It wouldnt seem suitable.

It happened in the Cybertron toy line.

That's what i meant.

What if Bay makes his alt mode to be just a car, or a bus, or Nokia...

Actually, the Nokia-bot in the movie was designed to resemble Unicron...

News Credits: 2 · by **An_de** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:21 am

The Fallen. wrote:
An_de wrote:
The Fallen. wrote:
Leonardo wrote:
The Fallen. wrote:
An_de wrote:
The Fallen. wrote:
An_de wrote:If Unicron plays in the second or third movie... Now that would be cool!

No, it wont.
In fact, there will be less interesting storylines after Unicron turns up.
Bay will probably just use the chance to cause more screenhavic and explosions.

Probably...
And what if Bay turns Unicron into just a tank? It wouldnt seem suitable.

It happened in the Cybertron toy line.

That's what i meant.

What if Bay makes his alt mode to be just a car, or a bus, or Nokia...

Actually, the Nokia-bot in the movie was designed to resemble Unicron...

Hahah! I hope Unicron doesn't use his evil powers to consume planets!

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:22 am

Talk about reaching out and touching someone...

by **Deadpool.** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:28 am

Speaking of which, why does it seem like the AllSpark causes mechanical things to turn evil?

The MountainDew, Nokia, X-Box , car robots all attacked people and were hostile.
And the nokia and vending-machine ones had red eyes.

News Credits: 1093 · by **Alex Kingdom** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:30 am

An_de wrote:If Unicron plays in the second or third movie... Now that would be cool!

Im not sure it would be. TBH after the G1 movie, G1 Marvel comics, Beast Wars Neo, Armada, Enegon and Cybertron(sort of), Unicron has kinda been done to death. Plus even in the is day and age I really don't think technology is up to putting a convicing CGI Unicron on the big screen.

Yours AK

News Credits: 2 · by **An_de** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:32 am

The Fallen. wrote:Speaking of which, why does it seem like the AllSpark causes mechanical things to turn evil?

The MountainDew, Nokia, X-Box , car robots all attacked people and were hostile.
And the nokia and vending-machine ones had red eyes.

I've noticed that too and I haave no idea why. I mean how did it created the Autobots?

by **Deadpool.** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:36 am

An_de wrote:
The Fallen. wrote:Speaking of which, why does it seem like the AllSpark causes mechanical things to turn evil?

The MountainDew, Nokia, X-Box , car robots all attacked people and were hostile.
And the nokia and vending-machine ones had red eyes.

I've noticed that too and I haave no idea why. I mean how did it created the Autobots?

The Allspark turns stuff bad when the good guy is holding on to it.
Does that mean that the Allspark is evil? Or that Sam is evil?
O.o

News Credits: 2 · by **An_de** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:41 am

The Fallen. wrote:
An_de wrote:
The Fallen. wrote:Speaking of which, why does it seem like the AllSpark causes mechanical things to turn evil?

The MountainDew, Nokia, X-Box , car robots all attacked people and were hostile.
And the nokia and vending-machine ones had red eyes.

I've noticed that too and I have no idea why. I mean how did it created the Autobots?

The Allspark turns stuff bad when the good guy is holding on to it.
Does that mean that the Allspark is evil? Or that Sam is evil?
O.o

Strange question. It doesn't make sense either. If Megatron holds the Cube, does this mean that he'll create the Autobots?

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:43 am

I think the official explanation is that all of Earth's technology is reverse-engineered from Megatron, therefore it's all inherently evil. This was never really explained in the actual film, though.

by **Deadpool.** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:44 am

An_de wrote:
The Fallen. wrote:
An_de wrote:
The Fallen. wrote:Speaking of which, why does it seem like the AllSpark causes mechanical things to turn evil?

The MountainDew, Nokia, X-Box , car robots all attacked people and were hostile.
And the nokia and vending-machine ones had red eyes.

I've noticed that too and I have no idea why. I mean how did it created the Autobots?

The Allspark turns stuff bad when the good guy is holding on to it.
Does that mean that the Allspark is evil? Or that Sam is evil?
O.o

Strange question. It doesn't make sense either. If Megatron holds the Cube, does this mean that he'll create the Autobots?

Imagine this:
Megatron: "I SHALL USE THE CUBE TO CREATE AN ARMY OF..... AUTOBOTS?!"

News Credits: 2 · by **An_de** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:50 am

The Fallen. wrote:
An_de wrote:
The Fallen. wrote:
An_de wrote:
The Fallen. wrote:Speaking of which, why does it seem like the AllSpark causes mechanical things to turn evil?

The MountainDew, Nokia, X-Box , car robots all attacked people and were hostile.
And the nokia and vending-machine ones had red eyes.

I've noticed that too and I have no idea why. I mean how did it created the Autobots?

The Allspark turns stuff bad when the good guy is holding on to it.
Does that mean that the Allspark is evil? Or that Sam is evil?
O.o

Strange question. It doesn't make sense either. If Megatron holds the Cube, does this mean that he'll create the Autobots?

Imagine this:
Megatron: "I SHALL USE THE CUBE TO CREATE AN ARMY OF..... AUTOBOTS?!"

News Credits: 1093 · by **Alex Kingdom** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:09 am

Leonardo wrote:I think the official explanation is that all of Earth's technology is reverse-engineered from Megatron, therefore it's all inherently evil. This was never really explained in the actual film, though.

So basically it was a massive plot hole that people (official or otherwise) are franticly trying to fill with fuzzy logic?

Yours AK

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:18 am

Alex Kingdom wrote:
Leonardo wrote:I think the official explanation is that all of Earth's technology is reverse-engineered from Megatron, therefore it's all inherently evil. This was never really explained in the actual film, though.

So basically it was a massive plot hole that people (official or otherwise) are franticly trying to fill with fuzzy logic?

Yours AK

Yes. Much like how anyone else knew that a map had been burnt onto the glasses, or why they buried the Cube in a dam to shield it from N.B.E. detection, only to house an N.B.E. in the room next door.

News Credits: 1093 · by **Alex Kingdom** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:25 am

Leonardo wrote:
Alex Kingdom wrote:
Leonardo wrote:I think the official explanation is that all of Earth's technology is reverse-engineered from Megatron, therefore it's all inherently evil. This was never really explained in the actual film, though.

So basically it was a massive plot hole that people (official or otherwise) are franticly trying to fill with fuzzy logic?

Yours AK

Yes. Much like how anyone else knew that a map had been burnt onto the glasses, or why they buried the Cube in a dam to shield it from N.B.E. detection, only to house an N.B.E. in the room next door.

Or why Bumblebee was interested in Sam in the first place as he knew nothing of the glasses at that point, or why it was concidered a good military decision to chose a city centre as the venue for the final battle?

Yours AK

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:30 am

Alex Kingdom wrote:
Leonardo wrote:
Alex Kingdom wrote:
Leonardo wrote:I think the official explanation is that all of Earth's technology is reverse-engineered from Megatron, therefore it's all inherently evil. This was never really explained in the actual film, though.

So basically it was a massive plot hole that people (official or otherwise) are franticly trying to fill with fuzzy logic?

Yours AK

Yes. Much like how anyone else knew that a map had been burnt onto the glasses, or why they buried the Cube in a dam to shield it from N.B.E. detection, only to house an N.B.E. in the room next door.

Or why Bumblebee was interested in Sam in the first place as he knew nothing of the glasses at that point, or why it was concidered a good military decision to chose a city centre as the venue for the final battle?

Yours AK

Quite!