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Hmm, I'll go look for him sometime then.

What size screwdriver do you need to take away the spring on his fusion cannon and put that spring into the whip claw arm?

Toyotus Superion wrote:

Raymond101 wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:
Is there a leader class in Classics line?

For the leader class Movie toys, Megatron is a total disappointment, in whatever mode you can get him into. Even in Gerwalk mode!(kidding) Prime looks good, especially in vehicle mode. The bot mode is not bad, although largely inaccurate compared to the movie design. But not too bad. I can live with that. Brawl, which i haven't seen the real toy yet, looks very promising. From Ryan's picture gallery, i can see a lot of major improvements from its Deluxe toy. This could be the best Leader toy. If only i can buy him soon.

I think he meant that Classics was a great line that had no neccessity for expensive Leaders or Supremes.

I personally have no problem with Leader Prime's robot mode because I like bulkiness.

Yeah, and on me HAVING to get Megs, yeah, Leader Prime and my Autobot team are looking very lonely without Megatron to fight. I think I'll be compelled to buy him sooner or later.

You know, there is a plus side to megs. Yeah he is bulky, but he is sturdy as all hell. Everything on him is thick and well assembled. He isnt delicate. And yeah he is huge. So big that he is a good opponent for all the autobots, especially leader prime. How could you pass that up? And then, well, if you can find him, then you have an oportunity that many many people dont, because I havent seen him on shelves in months now, since before the movie came out.

I disagree on the "well-assembled" bit. The kibble on this arms keeps falling down. And i mean, right out of the box! Generally, arms, feet, wings have design and quality issues. Pls see my earlier post on this thread for more info. Just scroll up a bit.

Raymond101 wrote:Hmm, I'll go look for him sometime then.

What size screwdriver do you need to take away the spring on his fusion cannon and put that spring into the whip claw arm?

Can you do that? I understand taking out the spring from the cannon part. But what does it do to the whip claw part?

Auto Bot wrote:

Toyotus Superion wrote:

Raymond101 wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:
Is there a leader class in Classics line?

For the leader class Movie toys, Megatron is a total disappointment, in whatever mode you can get him into. Even in Gerwalk mode!(kidding) Prime looks good, especially in vehicle mode. The bot mode is not bad, although largely inaccurate compared to the movie design. But not too bad. I can live with that. Brawl, which i haven't seen the real toy yet, looks very promising. From Ryan's picture gallery, i can see a lot of major improvements from its Deluxe toy. This could be the best Leader toy. If only i can buy him soon.

I think he meant that Classics was a great line that had no neccessity for expensive Leaders or Supremes.

I personally have no problem with Leader Prime's robot mode because I like bulkiness.

Yeah, and on me HAVING to get Megs, yeah, Leader Prime and my Autobot team are looking very lonely without Megatron to fight. I think I'll be compelled to buy him sooner or later.

You know, there is a plus side to megs. Yeah he is bulky, but he is sturdy as all hell. Everything on him is thick and well assembled. He isnt delicate. And yeah he is huge. So big that he is a good opponent for all the autobots, especially leader prime. How could you pass that up? And then, well, if you can find him, then you have an oportunity that many many people dont, because I havent seen him on shelves in months now, since before the movie came out.

I disagree on the "well-assembled" bit. The kibble on this arms keeps falling down. And i mean, right out of the box! Generally, arms, feet, wings have design and quality issues. Pls see my earlier post on this thread for more info. Just scroll up a bit.

I think you got a busted one bro, because nothing flops over on my megatron. Nothing is loose. Everything lines up like it should too. Nothing pops out or refuses to stay in place.
And yeah, I heard you can take the spring and put it into the claw arm to make it shoot out. Im gonna try it out. Can't really make the gimmick worse, you know? ;P

Raymond101 wrote:Hmm, I'll go look for him sometime then.

What size screwdriver do you need to take away the spring on his fusion cannon and put that spring into the whip claw arm?

A small philips screwdriver. not too pointy, but not flat.

Toyotus Superion wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:

Toyotus Superion wrote:

Raymond101 wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:
Is there a leader class in Classics line?

For the leader class Movie toys, Megatron is a total disappointment, in whatever mode you can get him into. Even in Gerwalk mode!(kidding) Prime looks good, especially in vehicle mode. The bot mode is not bad, although largely inaccurate compared to the movie design. But not too bad. I can live with that. Brawl, which i haven't seen the real toy yet, looks very promising. From Ryan's picture gallery, i can see a lot of major improvements from its Deluxe toy. This could be the best Leader toy. If only i can buy him soon.

I think he meant that Classics was a great line that had no neccessity for expensive Leaders or Supremes.

I personally have no problem with Leader Prime's robot mode because I like bulkiness.

Yeah, and on me HAVING to get Megs, yeah, Leader Prime and my Autobot team are looking very lonely without Megatron to fight. I think I'll be compelled to buy him sooner or later.

You know, there is a plus side to megs. Yeah he is bulky, but he is sturdy as all hell. Everything on him is thick and well assembled. He isnt delicate. And yeah he is huge. So big that he is a good opponent for all the autobots, especially leader prime. How could you pass that up? And then, well, if you can find him, then you have an oportunity that many many people dont, because I havent seen him on shelves in months now, since before the movie came out.

I disagree on the "well-assembled" bit. The kibble on this arms keeps falling down. And i mean, right out of the box! Generally, arms, feet, wings have design and quality issues. Pls see my earlier post on this thread for more info. Just scroll up a bit.

I think you got a busted one bro, because nothing flops over on my megatron. Nothing is loose. Everything lines up like it should too. Nothing pops out or refuses to stay in place.
And yeah, I heard you can take the spring and put it into the claw arm to make it shoot out. Im gonna try it out. Can't really make the gimmick worse, you know? ;P

Yeah, possibly. I have to raise his arms so that the whip housing won't fall down. Does the "pants" chip off them you transform the thighs?

Pls post pictures when you've done the modifications. I don't see the idea yet on how to shoot the whip claws.

Plz post them on here This can be our resource thread for anyone having trouble with their Leader Megatron.

Raymond101 wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:
Is there a leader class in Classics line?

For the leader class Movie toys, Megatron is a total disappointment, in whatever mode you can get him into. Even in Gerwalk mode!(kidding) Prime looks good, especially in vehicle mode. The bot mode is not bad, although largely inaccurate compared to the movie design. But not too bad. I can live with that. Brawl, which i haven't seen the real toy yet, looks very promising. From Ryan's picture gallery, i can see a lot of major improvements from its Deluxe toy. This could be the best Leader toy. If only i can buy him soon.

I think he meant that Classics was a great line that had no neccessity for expensive Leaders or Supremes.

I personally have no problem with Leader Prime's robot mode because I like bulkiness.

Yeah, and on me HAVING to get Megs, yeah, Leader Prime and my Autobot team are looking very lonely without Megatron to fight. I think I'll be compelled to buy him sooner or later.

Yeah, Classics don't have Leader class. But i do wish it have. Or at least something in between Leader and Voyager. Have you noticed Prime is too small? Robot too small against Megatron. And alt mode too small compared to the other Autobots. Current Classics Prime can possibly be too big if it goes Leader. But maybe it can grow just a bit to match the other Autobot vehicles, and add a Trailer, so that it can fit into the Leader class bulkiness.

Seriuosly, how do you transform Megatron's legs/thighs decently? I mean without plastics chipping off, or external plastic parts sliding forcibly against each other.

Raymond101 wrote:Plz post them on here This can be our resource thread for anyone having trouble with their Leader Megatron.

I love that ldea! Improving your Megs!
Ya know Raymond101 about HAVING to buy him; I'm guilty of that myself. I went to Toys-R-Us just to buy L-Optimus, but figured what the hey? They're both here. I'll feel better that I've completed the set. So even though I'm disatisfied with the product in general, I still have a sense of satisfaction in knowing that my collection is complete.

Auto Bot wrote:

Raymond101 wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:
Is there a leader class in Classics line?

For the leader class Movie toys, Megatron is a total disappointment, in whatever mode you can get him into. Even in Gerwalk mode!(kidding) Prime looks good, especially in vehicle mode. The bot mode is not bad, although largely inaccurate compared to the movie design. But not too bad. I can live with that. Brawl, which i haven't seen the real toy yet, looks very promising. From Ryan's picture gallery, i can see a lot of major improvements from its Deluxe toy. This could be the best Leader toy. If only i can buy him soon.

I think he meant that Classics was a great line that had no neccessity for expensive Leaders or Supremes.

I personally have no problem with Leader Prime's robot mode because I like bulkiness.

Yeah, and on me HAVING to get Megs, yeah, Leader Prime and my Autobot team are looking very lonely without Megatron to fight. I think I'll be compelled to buy him sooner or later.

Yeah, Classics don't have Leader class. But i do wish it have. Or at least something in between Leader and Voyager. Have you noticed Prime is too small? Robot too small against Megatron. And alt mode too small compared to the other Autobots. Current Classics Prime can possibly be too big if it goes Leader. But maybe it can grow just a bit to match the other Autobot vehicles, and add a Trailer, so that it can fit into the Leader class bulkiness.

Classics prime is really small compared to all of the rest. He isnt to scale. The truck is way to small and he should be taller than most autobots. And I will let you guys know later on today, when I change the spring thing. As for the "pants", do you mean the little rubber parts on this leg by the waist? I dont have any plastic rubbing or chipping anywhere on his leg transformation. You may be doing it wrong, or backwards. its a tight fit, but nothing should be breaking. I would consider buying another one and sticking the first one in that box to return it.

Auto Bot wrote:Seriuosly, how do you transform Megatron's legs/thighs decently? I mean without plastics chipping off, or external plastic parts sliding forcibly against each other.

I'm totally confused on how to TF the legs smoothly as well. The pants on mine are starting to turn white from the plastic being stressed.

Autobot Vanquish wrote:

Raymond101 wrote:Plz post them on here This can be our resource thread for anyone having trouble with their Leader Megatron.

I love that ldea! Improving your Megs!
Ya know Raymond101 about HAVING to buy him; I'm guilty of that myself. I went to Toys-R-Us just to buy L-Optimus, but figured what the hey? They're both here. I'll feel better that I've completed the set. So even though I'm disatisfied with the product in general, I still have a sense of satisfaction in knowing that my collection is complete.

I'm more of an Autobot fan so I don't really care about the Decepticons that much. I was disappointed by Blackout and Bonecrusher although I really like Wreckage. and since Megatron is the most powerful Transformer in this universe... hell whatever.

I'm going to change the name of this thread now so it can help more people.

Toyotus Superion wrote:Classics prime is really small compared to all of the rest. He isnt to scale. The truck is way to small and he should be taller than most autobots. And I will let you guys know later on today, when I change the spring thing. As for the "pants", do you mean the little rubber parts on this leg by the waist? I dont have any plastic rubbing or chipping anywhere on his leg transformation. You may be doing it wrong, or backwards. its a tight fit, but nothing should be breaking. I would consider buying another one and sticking the first one in that box to return it.

I don't think there's anything wrong with no Leader Classes. Just look at Jetfire - one of the best figures in the classics line but no one complains about him not being Leader class. Also Optimus Prime is not meant to be neccessrily big in Classics, just more of a classic, decent warrior.

Mind you I don't have a single Classics figure, I'm just happy to know one when I see one after being confused the heck out of it by the packaging on the toys. =/ I seriously thought Classics were RID for a while

Ok, after transforming megs legs right now, I really think you guys are doing it wrong. Because when I do it, it rotates fine and doesnt hit anything. Im posting pics up right now. gimme a min.

Autobot Vanquish wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:Seriuosly, how do you transform Megatron's legs/thighs decently? I mean without plastics chipping off, or external plastic parts sliding forcibly against each other.

I'm totally confused on how to TF the legs smoothly as well. The pants on mine are starting to turn white from the plastic being stressed.

Exactly the problem i've encountered.

Maybe i've transformed him a few more times than yours. So i've seen very tiny pieces of white plastic fall on my desk. Really very tiny, so you won't notice a change in shape. But a very close up look with a magnifying lens shows some jagged edges.

Toyotus Superion wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:

Raymond101 wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:
Is there a leader class in Classics line?

For the leader class Movie toys, Megatron is a total disappointment, in whatever mode you can get him into. Even in Gerwalk mode!(kidding) Prime looks good, especially in vehicle mode. The bot mode is not bad, although largely inaccurate compared to the movie design. But not too bad. I can live with that. Brawl, which i haven't seen the real toy yet, looks very promising. From Ryan's picture gallery, i can see a lot of major improvements from its Deluxe toy. This could be the best Leader toy. If only i can buy him soon.

I think he meant that Classics was a great line that had no neccessity for expensive Leaders or Supremes.

I personally have no problem with Leader Prime's robot mode because I like bulkiness.

Yeah, and on me HAVING to get Megs, yeah, Leader Prime and my Autobot team are looking very lonely without Megatron to fight. I think I'll be compelled to buy him sooner or later.

Yeah, Classics don't have Leader class. But i do wish it have. Or at least something in between Leader and Voyager. Have you noticed Prime is too small? Robot too small against Megatron. And alt mode too small compared to the other Autobots. Current Classics Prime can possibly be too big if it goes Leader. But maybe it can grow just a bit to match the other Autobot vehicles, and add a Trailer, so that it can fit into the Leader class bulkiness.

Classics prime is really small compared to all of the rest. He isnt to scale. The truck is way to small and he should be taller than most autobots. And I will let you guys know later on today, when I change the spring thing. As for the "pants", do you mean the little rubber parts on this leg by the waist? I dont have any plastic rubbing or chipping anywhere on his leg transformation. You may be doing it wrong, or backwards. its a tight fit, but nothing should be breaking. I would consider buying another one and sticking the first one in that box to return it.

It's not the rubber part. You may be referring to the pointed thing on the outside of his thighs. Like the hip part.

The "pants" is more on the inner thigh. Just beside the crotch. Thin plastic part, hence, i call them "pants".

It's not easy to notice or find it if you're not looking for it. It was the tiny chipped plastic that got me looking for it.

Ok, this is the positions his legs should be in, the pics are from top to bottom.



There should be no chipping, no rubbing of plastic, its a tight fit, but nothing should be stressed.

Raymond101 wrote:

Toyotus Superion wrote:Classics prime is really small compared to all of the rest. He isnt to scale. The truck is way to small and he should be taller than most autobots. And I will let you guys know later on today, when I change the spring thing. As for the "pants", do you mean the little rubber parts on this leg by the waist? I dont have any plastic rubbing or chipping anywhere on his leg transformation. You may be doing it wrong, or backwards. its a tight fit, but nothing should be breaking. I would consider buying another one and sticking the first one in that box to return it.

I don't think there's anything wrong with no Leader Classes. Just look at Jetfire - one of the best figures in the classics line but no one complains about him not being Leader class. Also Optimus Prime is not meant to be neccessrily big in Classics, just more of a classic, decent warrior.

Mind you I don't have a single Classics figure, I'm just happy to know one when I see one after being confused the heck out of it by the packaging on the toys. =/ I seriously thought Classics were RID for a while

There's nothing wrong with Jetfire because there ain't any. Yes, he is one of the best figure. (Only too rear heavy.)

I have a perfect example on my complaints on the size of Classics Prime.

If you look at all 3 Voyagers in their respective boxes, you'll see that Megatron and Jetfire filled up almost all of the box. Hardly any empty space left. Especially for Jetfire, wall-to-wall! I love that. Money's worth!

But Prime is not even half of the box. His smoke-stack is intentionally taken off and tied elsewhere far in the box, to make it appear not-empty. It looks more like a Deluxe figure in a giant Voyager box. So to speak.

Another comparison is with Deluxe Autobots. The length and width of Prime is almost exactly the dimensions of Rodimus and Mirage. Only the front cab is taller than them.

You'll feel cheated.

Toyotus, can you please host those through imageshack for me? The comp I'm on blocks photobucket images. Thanks.

Autobot Vanquish wrote:Toyotus, can you please host those through imageshack for me? The comp I'm on blocks photobucket images. Thanks.

Ive never used imageshack. I dont know how to. I can email it to you if u like

Toyotus Superion wrote:Ok, this is the positions his legs should be in, the pics are from top to bottom.



There should be no chipping, no rubbing of plastic, its a tight fit, but nothing should be stressed.

Uhm... i have a bit of a comment on your photos.

I could be wrong. But it seems you may not have transformed his thighs correctly, or incomplete.

I notice in the middle picture, before the feet goes under the wings, i can see the screws near the crotch area. Which only means, in jet mode, you'll still see the screws just under the tail.

From the pictures i've seen, and the picture on the box, it should be the golden "<" on the upside. For each thigh. The screw should go under.

What do you think?

No wonder you don't see scrapings. Because you didn't transform that part to come right side up.

Auto Bot wrote:

Toyotus Superion wrote:Ok, this is the positions his legs should be in, the pics are from top to bottom.



There should be no chipping, no rubbing of plastic, its a tight fit, but nothing should be stressed.

Uhm... i have a bit of a comment on your photos.

I could be wrong. But it seems you may not have transformed his thighs correctly, or incomplete.

I notice in the middle picture, before the feet goes under the wings, i can see the screws near the crotch area. Which only means, in jet mode, you'll still see the screws just under the tail.

From the pictures i've seen, and the picture on the box, it should be the golden "<" on the upside. For each thigh. The screw should go under.

What do you think?

No wonder you don't see scrapings. Because you didn't transform that part to come right side up.

yeah i noticed that when i was transforming it. I tried it both ways and it didnt matter or make a difference. It just depends on if you want his alt mode to show screws, or his robot mode to show screws. You could always have it facing the gold way, but you would need to twist it everytime.

That would be fine. But for future ref. Imageshack is a free host. The homepage is the upload interface. No sign up required!

Toyotus Superion wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:

Toyotus Superion wrote:Ok, this is the positions his legs should be in, the pics are from top to bottom.



There should be no chipping, no rubbing of plastic, its a tight fit, but nothing should be stressed.

Uhm... i have a bit of a comment on your photos.

I could be wrong. But it seems you may not have transformed his thighs correctly, or incomplete.

I notice in the middle picture, before the feet goes under the wings, i can see the screws near the crotch area. Which only means, in jet mode, you'll still see the screws just under the tail.

From the pictures i've seen, and the picture on the box, it should be the golden "<" on the upside. For each thigh. The screw should go under.

What do you think?

No wonder you don't see scrapings. Because you didn't transform that part to come right side up.

yeah i noticed that when i was transforming it. I tried it both ways and it didnt matter or make a difference. It just depends on if you want his alt mode to show screws, or his robot mode to show screws. You could always have it facing the gold way, but you would need to twist it everytime.

Yeah. My thigh connections are way too tight. And you can't avoid scraping if you want to turn the gold upwards.

Probably if i be really really careful, i can manage to avoid that.

But that is my complaint. Design flaw. Parts should not eat each other up in normal transformations. Unless you use excessive force in clearly the wrong way.

But turning the thigh joints can eat up the pants in almost every way a novice like me do it, without using excessive force, and without even knowing it. Partly because the pants are too thin and gave way easily. The transformation can just stop if the pants are thick enough, and we would have noticed.

Or the instructions can come with a clear warning about weak points.

Autobot Vanquish wrote:That would be fine. But for future ref. Imageshack is a free host. The homepage is the upload interface. No sign up required!