The Energon Pub

by **microclone** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:04 pm

ive reversed my other thread question.

I bought BB 08 becasue I was intrigued by the automorph features. the car mode is pretty decent aside from the weak paint apps but im really not sure i like the robo mode.

unlike many TF his body parts are clumsily aligned, what i mean is that theres no pleasing flow to the overall form, it looks and feels very messy. compare him to an oldie like prowl or a newer toy like classics starscream, or even animation prowl, these all have a neat aesthetic, the robo parts feel like they are in the right places and directions. BB 08 is like a bunch of parts that didnt quite fall together right, also that head, sorry, cannot like that head.

clever transformation though but still quite clumsy. I understand those who love 08 BB but also those who dont.

by **Rushie** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:13 pm

He's pretty meh. A lot better than classic Camaro BB for sure, but not good enough to justify the inflated prices online. I got mine for 15 euros which is about the standard for Deluxe class figures in the Netherlands. To me, he;s worth just that much. I love his cannon/blade combiweapon and he is pretty sleek looking overall in both modes, but the transformation is quite awkward, with his arms being the most annoying bits. Overall, he's just a slightly-better-than-average figure.

by **microclone** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:17 pm

Rushie wrote:He's pretty meh. A lot better than classic Camaro BB for sure, but not good enough to justify the inflated prices online. I got mine for 15 euros which is about the standard for Deluxe class figures in the Netherlands. To me, he;s worth just that much. I love his cannon/blade combiweapon and he is pretty sleek looking overall in both modes, but the transformation is quite awkward, with his arms being the most annoying bits. Overall, he's just a slightly-better-than-average figure.

he seemed to get a bit overrated with all the hype of the movie and the fcat that he was unavailable for ages.

by **Decatron** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:29 pm

Generally, my answer is Beast Wars. But I'd include everything between Beast Wars and Beast Machines too.

by **Evil_the_Nub** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:03 pm

Cybertron Soundwave. He doesn't stay together in either mode, his legs can't hold his weight, and he's got more kibble than a 50 pound bag of dog food.

News Credits: 38 · by **Sunstar** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:08 pm

I need to wake up here.... when I posted my mind read it as toys I like that others don't tend to... Anyway.

I don't like Bumblebee or Optimus Prime toys. To be honest I am so sick of Bumblebee that if I find an 08 I will get it and break it. (if I had the $$ do that that though

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News Credits: 4 · by **Bumblethumper** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:29 pm

Movie Ironhide. Hideous to look at, awkward to transform, and that whole shoulder/chest area just isn't working.

Quite apart from the toy, I hate those lousy gas guzzlers, though I gotta hand the toy high marks for at least being accurate to the fugly vehicle. Other than that, impressive leg automorph, but I still don't like it.

by **Dran0n** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:47 pm

Well I have to disagree with you. It's the second best of the transformers movie toy line (in my opinion).

by **Ratking** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:00 pm

I just picked up Sixshot. What a piece of crap. None of his modes really look like anything at all. Lame spaceship, and the gun mode is a joke. I guess his robot form is okay, and I guess that is enough for him to stand over dead Ultra Magnus on my shelf. But otherwise total letdown!

News Credits: 1 · by **Powersa** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:02 pm

G1 bricks...especially the ones sealed in AFA graded boxes priced for thousands. Someone must like'em a lot.

News Credits: 4 · by **Bumblethumper** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:34 am

microclone wrote:unlike many TF his body parts are clumsily aligned, what i mean is that theres no pleasing flow to the overall form, it looks and feels very messy. compare him to an oldie like prowl or a newer toy like classics starscream, or even animation prowl, these all have a neat aesthetic, the robo parts feel like they are in the right places and directions. BB 08 is like a bunch of parts that didnt quite fall together right, also that head, sorry, cannot like that head.

Isn't that just in the nature of the busy heap-a-junk Movie designs? I reckon deluxe Concept Bumblebee is probably the most screen accurate of the toys, perhaps to it's detriment. I like it, but prefer the classic Camaro version.

The transformation on Concept Camaro Bumblebee is very involved. I've got 2, so I was quite rough with mine in a bid to figure out the most efficient way of working the transformation back and forth. Well it gets quite simple after a while, and to the toy's testament, nothing broke and the joints all seem as tight as ever. It's a solid, well designed piece of work.

But I still get more joy from the classic Camaro version.

by **MegatronBomb** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:09 am

Powersa wrote:G1 bricks...especially the ones sealed in AFA graded boxes priced for thousands. Someone must like'em a lot.

Which is why i buy reissues.

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:39 am

Well have little love of the movie designs as a whole, but on o more specific ones...

Cyb Metroplex, what an utter pile of crap, yeah he's reasonably posable, but that's his only real plus point, how anybody can like him is beyond me.

The Classics seekers (especilly starscream). The gun's are too big, they feel very childish compaired to some of the classic autobots, and despite their good posability, seem to be able to successfully pull off very few good looking poses.

by **AlienQuiksilver** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:59 am

I really like Classics Grimlock. His legs are bulky in bot mode, and the "hooker boots" are a definite issue.

Even with the shoulders not locking in ... still a great figure in my mind.

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:12 am

I don't like Concept Camaro Bumblebee.

by **ThunderZap** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:10 am

TRU exclusive reissue soundwave..coz he has awkward knees that bend forward :-(

News Credits: 4 · by **General Magnus** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:24 am

Powersa wrote:G1 bricks...especially the ones sealed in AFA graded boxes priced for thousands. Someone must like'em a lot.

Same here.

by **thedistinctroom** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:01 pm

I don't like Movie Leader Class Prime as much as Movie Voyager Class Prime, yet my roommate just loves Leader Class Prime. I don't like Movie Ironhide or Blackout very much yet again, people just love 'em. I don't like Cybertron Primus. Sh!t, the list just goes on and on.

by **Dr. Z** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:24 pm

-Energon Optimus Prime
-Ultimate Bumblebee
-Alternators Optimus Prime
-6Ti GI Joe Megatron

by **Thanatos Prime** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:25 pm

RiD Megatron/Galvatron- none of his modes look like anything but his robot mode in awkward poses. Just a piece of crap to me.

RiD in general was only "meh" to me, the only good figures being Optimus and Magnus. The car brothers were the worst though, they just looked awful to me, X-brawn in particular with the whole front of his alt mode stuck on his forearm.

I know people sing the praises of RiD, but I think it was the least appealing of all the lines.

by **Thanatos Prime** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:26 pm

Dr. Z wrote:-Energon Optimus Prime
-Ultimate Bumblebee
-Alternators Optimus Prime
-6Ti GI Joe Megatron

I thought most people disliked E-Optimus and G.I. Joe Megs... :-?

by **Dr. Z** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:28 pm

Darn, I read the title wrong! LOL!

Here's my list then :

-Classics Jetfire (lamer than the original)
-Cybertron Vector Prime (worst toy ever)
-Movie Wreckage (boring)
-Movie G1 Jazz (fugly)

News Credits: 1 · by **No Death for Prowl** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:31 pm

Hmmm...there's not too many TFs that I don't like, at least of the ones I own, but the one that I see praised quite a bit that disappointing was the movie version of the Cybertron Scout Armorhide. I remember thinking, "I paid $8 for this, when a better movie deluxe figure only costs two bucks more?"

by **Vile MK III** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:21 pm

-Movie Ratchet (looks like serbert ice cream)
-Movie Arcee (O_o; scary head)
-MP Starscream (Tomy Takara ver)

by **Dagon** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:26 am

Ultimate Bumblebee
Both movie Bumblebees---the 08 one is such a hunk of junk, beyond description.
Movie Longarm----crap!
most of the RID line
G1 Devastator
movie Arcee, any Arcee namesake, Arcee in general
Cybertron Soundwave