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That is disappointing. I had really hoped they kept them faithful to the original. Guess it's time to start canceling preorders.

I remember how badly I wanted to own the old BW toys as a kid, now I can live without just fine. I mean sheesh they couldn't bother painting his chest this time.

Hmm. I already have the originals for all four of these re-releases, so this was going to be a skip from me either way. But I'm genuinely confused about who these are intended for. They made changes to the coloring and paint, so its not really for people who collect the original line. They didn't use the updated mold, and the paint changes still don't match the show, so its not for people who value show accuracy. So who are they expecting to pick this up?

Well to be fair, ever since reissues of the original Transformers toys started coming out (I think of the Commemorative Series starting back in 2002 and on), they haven't been 100% the same as the originals either.

It's likely for adults now, who grew up with BW, but haven't seen the toys in many years, same idea with most "G1" re-releases. Most hardcore fans can tell the differences, but many casual "fans-when-they-were-kids" wont really know the difference.

Heck, it's even been asserted at times, that modern-figures in retro packaging (ex. The Headmasters at Walmart) -some casual "fan-when-they-were-a-kid" might even think they ARE reproductions of the original toys .

could be for all those that paid the price tag on half an optimus prime toy compared to the price of the full reissue some years back

Looks like Megatron has the piece missing form it that the toysrus show version had removed too but cant be sure.

blackeyedprime wrote:Looks like Megatron has the piece missing form it that the toysrus show version had removed too but cant be sure.

What piece?

Spider5800 wrote:Hmm. I already have the originals for all four of these re-releases, so this was going to be a skip from me either way. But I'm genuinely confused about who these are intended for. They made changes to the coloring and paint, so its not really for people who collect the original line. They didn't use the updated mold, and the paint changes still don't match the show, so its not for people who value show accuracy. So who are they expecting to pick this up?

People like me who didn't have any of the originals. Toy or cartoon accuracy also isn't a huge stickler for me, these are close enough.

It seems the US will be first to get the Beast Wars reissues in hand. Right now, both Cheetor and Rattrap are in-stock on Walmart's site. Below are the links to buy these two toys, both priced just shy of $23 USD.

Transformers Toys Vintage Beast Wars Rattrap Collectible Action Figure
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Transformers ... /200598161

Transformers Toys Vintage Beast Wars Cheetor Collectible Action Figure
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Transformers ... /662391149

Let us know if your order works out, you never know with Walmart.

I ordered both as well because walmart store toy aisles are a waste of time

Has anyone had theirs ship yet? Mine are still delayed while the listings are currently listed as in stock and available for next day delivery. I'm debating whether to try placing a second order to see what happens.

Let's face it, the only news of interest for these reissues is "where/when can I get it" and "how does it compare to the original release". Well now, I can at least answer that second part for everyone. My original Transformers Beast Wars Cheetor has been well played with so the spots are fading away and I no longer have his tail gun. But there's still enough of him to see how this reissue differs.

Firstly, unlike what some naysayers can say, this reissue's plastic quality is as good as the original 1996 toy. My OG Cheetor's joints have gotten really loose over time so it's nice to have a Cheetor with nice tight joints (but not too tight). This is a quality reissue, nothing feels cheap.

Mold wise, this is not the same mold used for the original Cheetor. It becomes more obvious when looking at the fur and the gut gun. The details are not the same with the fur curling in a different direction and the gut gun's innards pattern looks more organic and misshapen around the edges in the original, while more even on the reissue.

In terms of deco, I am impressed at how they used a yellow plastic that is very close to the original. I thought my OG Cheetor had faded since he wasn't bright yellow but as it turns out, that is indeed his original colour.

The blue paint on the reissue is of a brighter blue, similar to the MP and the Netflix toy, while the original looks more navy (well that's what it looks like now). Also, and this could simply be due to the passage of time, the bronze parts are much nicer on the reissue while mine look more brownish.

But these are all just slight differences, and could be due to age. The main difference is in the three sets of eyes, the beast eyes, robot eyes and mutant eyes. On my OG toy, they are all the same 90s rad fluo green. It gives it a nice uniformity from one mode to the next. In the reissue, all three sets have a different deco. The eyes on the beast mode are a darker forest green, the eyes for the robot mode are bright salmon and the eyes for the mutant head are bronze.

Overall, the quality is as good as you could hope on this reissue and I am glad to have a fresh new "OG" Cheetor in my collection.

Not sure if it's just my monitor, but is that the "newer" green eyed variant of the Original Cheetor, Compared to the 'first edition' blue eyed one? Has anyone ever done a comparison between the the various Cheetor runs? (I'd just always assumed it was *just* eye color).

SpikeyTigertron wrote:Not sure if it's just my monitor, but is that the "newer" green eyed variant of the Original Cheetor, Compared to the 'first edition' blue eyed one? Has anyone ever done a comparison between the the various Cheetor runs? (I'd just always assumed it was *just* eye color).

Yeah, just eye colour, but of the Cheetah and robot mode. Cheetah eyes went from blue, to red to green and robot mode eyes went from gold to green. Not sure where this reissue's red eyes come from.

william-james88 wrote:

SpikeyTigertron wrote:Not sure if it's just my monitor, but is that the "newer" green eyed variant of the Original Cheetor, Compared to the 'first edition' blue eyed one? Has anyone ever done a comparison between the the various Cheetor runs? (I'd just always assumed it was *just* eye color).

Yeah, just eye colour, but of the Cheetah and robot mode. Cheetah eyes went from blue, to red to green and robot mode eyes went from gold to green. Not sure where this reissue's red eyes come from.

One of Takara's variants of Cheetus: Cheetus on TFU.info

While the cheetor figure us of great quality the Rattrap feels cheaper than I remember. It has that lighter plastic feel, similar to T30 Rattrap. The price being charged for Rattrap is ridiculous.

have these been found in the US yet or not?

william-james88 wrote:have these been found in the US yet or not?

Not yet, but at least my local Walmarts are resetting the toy sections, that's when new assortments are usually introduced. Shouldn't be too long.