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Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:32 pm

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william-james88 wrote:The 20$ deluxe MSRP was first done for the TLK line, followed by POTP and SS. And Voyagers being $30 too, and some retailers (such as Amazon and HTS) are indeed selling at these prices.

But we shouldnt confuse price with price point. The idea is that if a legends calss 2 pack sold at the deluxe price point once, it can do so again.

PotP Deluxe MSRP stayed at $16.99, everything else (aside from Legends) got a price hike from Hasbro.

Also it's faulty logic for anyone using the clones as an example of two legends being sold at a Deluxe price point meaning it's possible for Skytread to do the same. The clones are exclusives and exclusives are priced by the stores that sell them, not by Hasbro. Walgreens decided they worked at a Deluxe price point, that doesn't mean Hasbro agreed.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:19 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
william-james88 wrote:They did.
But they also said all robot modes would be in scale with eachother and yet we have Leader Shockwave, so both statements dont go together well.
Plus they also once said that Studio Series would all be new molds aside from the exclusive thundercracker. And we know how that turned out, so who knows.

Technically, they are all new molds based on previous toys in some cases. There may be repaints, but they are repaints of the new SS molds, so they didn't really lie. I think that was misinterpreted.

I fully understand and agree with that, as I did with Wolfmanjake. But if I ( and maybe others) misinterpreted that, it could be that we are also misinterpreting or misunderstanding what Hasbro is saying now. Dont know how though.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby mordhelm » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:53 pm

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Emerje wrote:
william-james88 wrote:The 20$ deluxe MSRP was first done for the TLK line, followed by POTP and SS. And Voyagers being $30 too, and some retailers (such as Amazon and HTS) are indeed selling at these prices.

But we shouldnt confuse price with price point. The idea is that if a legends calss 2 pack sold at the deluxe price point once, it can do so again.

PotP Deluxe MSRP stayed at $16.99, everything else (aside from Legends) got a price hike from Hasbro.

Also it's faulty logic for anyone using the clones as an example of two legends being sold at a Deluxe price point meaning it's possible for Skytread to do the same. The clones are exclusives and exclusives are priced by the stores that sell them, not by Hasbro. Walgreens decided they worked at a Deluxe price point, that doesn't mean Hasbro agreed.

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The MSRP was changed about midway through PotP from 16.99 to 19.99. It was even mentioned in news articles here for the official figure reveals. Just because stores opted not to change their prices to match does not mean it did not happen.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:03 pm

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mordhelm wrote:The MSRP was changed about midway through PotP from 16.99 to 19.99. It was even mentioned in news articles here for the official figure reveals. Just because stores opted not to change their prices to match does not mean it did not happen.


Yeah, it became the MSRP for 2018, here is the link

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Transformers: Generations Power of the Primes Deluxe Class Terrorcon Rippersnapper

(Ages 8 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $19.99 SRP /Available: Spring 2018)

The AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS use PRIME MASTERS to wield the incredible powers of the most legendary bots in the universe: the Primes. PRIME MASTERS carry the spark of a Prime, allowing them to share a Prime’s godlike ability with other bots. How will the ferocious TERRORCON ground attack specialist wield this epic power? Anything is possible and everything is at stake when the Power of the Primes is unleashed! TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES DELUXE CLASS figures are 5.5-inch-scale figures that come with a Prime Armor accessory. Insert a PRIME MASTER figure (not included, each sold separately) into the accessory, attach it to the figure’s chest, and imagine TERRORCON RIPPERSNAPPER wields the power of a Prime. Available at most major retailers and on HasbroToyShop.com.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:06 pm

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o.supreme wrote:If we see a scorpion tail either warden was lying, or he's stupid.
I see what you did there. ;)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:07 pm

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Are we sure that isn't a typo? Hasbro Toy Shop sells at MSRP so they wont have an unfair advantage over normal retailers. And yet they haven't changed the PotP Deluxe price at all, but have increased the Prime Masters wave 3 price so they do make price adjustments as they happen.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby mordhelm » Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:45 am

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It took months before the voyagers changed price on HTS. And again HTS is still a retailer and can charge what they feel is appropriate. While the line may be blurrier, technically HTS and Hasbro the manufacturer are separate business entities.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:22 am

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Also, lets not step away from the fact that there are transformers deluxe toys which have a $19.99 MSRP and that this MSRP has been manifested at retail, specifically with the Studio Series line. Thats all the precedent a corporation needs to make that the MSRP for upcoming deluxe class toys, movie related or not.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Albatross250 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:16 am

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:23 am

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Where is the teaser?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Albatross250 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:38 am

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william-james88 wrote:Where is the teaser?

It's from the Figure King Magazine, :HEADHURTS:
and yeah, it took me and confused for about 5-10 minutes of the source :HEADHURTS:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:40 am

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Albatross250 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Where is the teaser?

It's from the Figure King Magazine, :HEADHURTS:
and yeah, it took me and confused for about 5-10 minutes of the source :HEADHURTS:
I think he means, that's less of a "teaser" and more of a "reminder".
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Albatross250 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:52 am

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They also recall on the Wonderfest 2018 showing Optimus (Convoy) and the rest of the Cybertrons (or Autobots) which can be seen at the top left
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:15 am

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Albatross250 wrote:They also recall on the Wonderfest 2018 showing Optimus (Convoy) and the rest of the Cybertrons (or Autobots) which can be seen at the top left
"Optimus Prime" and all the other Hasbro names are what they're using for this line.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Albatross250 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:23 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
Albatross250 wrote:They also recall on the Wonderfest 2018 showing Optimus (Convoy) and the rest of the Cybertrons (or Autobots) which can be seen at the top left
"Optimus Prime" and all the other Hasbro names are what they're using for this line.


Seems like they made a Unification, right?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:28 am

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Albatross250 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Albatross250 wrote:They also recall on the Wonderfest 2018 showing Optimus (Convoy) and the rest of the Cybertrons (or Autobots) which can be seen at the top left
"Optimus Prime" and all the other Hasbro names are what they're using for this line.


Seems like they made a Unification, right?
Just like with the Movie lines, Animated, United, Japanese Generations, TF: Prime, Power of the Primes, etc.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:09 pm

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Do you think know there was any hidden messages on the signs at wonderfest? :-P :lol:
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Nice to see some pics of Siege Optimus Prime without all the "battle damage" paint applications. Is Takara just showing off some earlier, non-finalized samples of Siege products, or are they planning to diverge just a bit from Hasbro's offerings by going for "pristine" looks for their releases instead of Hasbro's "battle worn" aesthetic?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:01 pm

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I'd imagine we'll find out soon enough
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Lunatic Prime » Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:11 pm

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Nice to see some pics of Siege Optimus Prime without all the "battle damage" paint applications. Is Takara just showing off some earlier, non-finalized samples of Siege products, or are they planning to diverge just a bit from Hasbro's offerings by going for "pristine" looks for their releases instead of Hasbro's "battle worn" aesthetic?

In those pictures the figures look pretty clean but I think that's due to tha bad quality. Optimus definitely looks like he has less or even no weathering especially on his head/helmet and his forearms but if you look at Hound's front bumper...
And they had battle damage at Wonderfest, too.
AND :HASBRO: wants to unite the brands as they already did with PotP. Btw does anybody if there are quality differences between the :HASBRO: and :TAKARATOMY: releases of the PotP line? Especially regarding paint apps.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:27 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:55 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Those figure king scans actually made me like OP less, significantly less. He looks really bland there


The combination of a low quality scanning job and the overexposed original photograph dull the colors and hide all of the molded detailing. I'm hoping the eventual high quality scans of the magazine will help somewhat.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:30 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Those figure king scans actually made me like OP less, significantly less. He looks really bland there

Yeah, cant believe they went with the dead optimus deco
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby starrhero » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:33 pm

So I was wondering something, though I don't know if it exactly supposed to go here or the Potpie thread. For those of you who have him, how many people plan to replace Leader Evolution Optimus with Voyager Optimus?

I personally don't plan to replace him quite just yet, though I have noticed the part of the trailer-mech-bodysuit that locks the arm joints into place is getting quite worn out, making the connection much looser on the arm, which might make me switch fully if mine breaks in the next couple of weeks.

So I guess the question is who is better, Leader Potpie Optimus, or Voyager Siege Prime?
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