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A "Tribute" to the Nice Guys

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Postby Marty Rocket » Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:42 pm

I had 3 girlfriends that each lasted quite a while in the last 6 years by being the nice guy/teddy bear, and I'm engaged to the third one going into the fourth year of our relationship, so I think it really just depends on the girls you knock about with.

Relationships can happen out of long term friendships. I've known my fiancee' for 6 years, and in that time we were best friends long before we became an item. Through our friendship we became real close that we fell in love with each other and it's been the best thing that ever happened to me.

Yeah, there were girls when I was in your position in school that I wanted before I met my fiancee', and they wanted the boys who were much more appealing in the sense they were jack the lads. What you have to do is give it time and you'll find a girl who you'll become friends with, she'll probably look nice to you (after all, we usually start knocking about with people we like the look of) and she'll tick all the right boxes. Take your time.

I used to think the same way when I broke up with my first girlfriend, and my second, so I thought I'd throw my thoughts here. I hope it gives you something to chew on.
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Postby Blast Cannon » Sun Sep 02, 2007 7:38 pm

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Postby Bed Bugs » Sun Sep 02, 2007 7:57 pm

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I'm actually curious now.

I consider myself a "nice guy". Never been in a relationship with anyone, nor have I really tried to.

What I am curious about though is this. I remember all the cocky guys from my graduating class in high school. They were always popular with the ladies, always got their way and basically ran the high school subculture.

So when it's time for my 10 year re-union, how do you think these people will be different?

Will real life take it's toll and knock these guys down a few notches. More importantly, how does their status change as they age?

Sure, they were king sh@t when they were 18, but what happens when their 28? Do these guys also mature, or do they end up living in a trailer park and beating the women they married?

It's stuff like this that actually makes me feel better. Thinking about all the things that could/have gone wrong for these guys since graduating.
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Postby Blast Cannon » Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:17 pm

Motto: ""Life is all about risks and it requires you to jump. Don't be a person who has to look back and wonder what they would have or could have had. No one lives forever.""
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Funnily enough, I ran into a bloke on friday night who I hadn't seen since high school. Turns out that he's a supervisor on CCTV around my local area in Manchester. Now we went to a pretty rough inner city school, and so all the idiots who ran riot at school are now running riot throughout the communities...

Turns out this guy, who was bullied throughout his school life, is now responsible for putting two of them away. And he says that a few more are awaiting trial.

Karma's a lovely bitch, sometimes.
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Postby Bed Bugs » Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:27 pm

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Blast Cannon wrote:Funnily enough, I ran into a bloke on friday night who I hadn't seen since high school. Turns out that he's a supervisor on CCTV around my local area in Manchester. Now we went to a pretty rough inner city school, and so all the idiots who ran riot at school are now running riot throughout the communities...

Turns out this guy, who was bullied throughout his school life, is now responsible for putting two of them away. And he says that a few more are awaiting trial.

Karma's a lovely bitch, sometimes.


And that right there is why I'm going to school to be a cop. :twisted:
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Postby G1 Blaster » Sun Sep 02, 2007 9:15 pm

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Here's a tip: Most women don't find headbutts sexual.
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Postby Moonbase2 » Sun Sep 02, 2007 10:59 pm

Here's a key to get a girl to enjoy dating you, besides being your charming self: buy her stuff. That's it! Women love it when guys buy them crap. If you can't afford it, you'd better have a GREAT personality, because women are hardwired to find men that can provide. And before it's time for kids that means you just have to provide for her...in the form of lots of girly stuff. I'll be honest, my husband wasn't really my type when we met, but he took me out to dinner and a movie four times a week and bought me stuff. It sealed the deal and made me want to date him til I got to know him better. Shallow? Yes. But you guys are just as shallow as we ladies are.
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Postby G1 Blaster » Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:17 pm

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Moonbase2 wrote:Here's a key to get a girl to enjoy dating you, besides being your charming self: buy her stuff. That's it! Women love it when guys buy them crap. If you can't afford it, you'd better have a GREAT personality, because women are hardwired to find men that can provide. And before it's time for kids that means you just have to provide for her...in the form of lots of girly stuff. I'll be honest, my husband wasn't really my type when we met, but he took me out to dinner and a movie four times a week and bought me stuff. It sealed the deal and made me want to date him til I got to know him better. Shallow? Yes. But you guys are just as shallow as we ladies are.


We're TF fans. We don't have any money. That all goes towards toys and Botcon.
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Postby Moonbase2 » Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:25 pm

G1Blaster wrote:
Moonbase2 wrote:Here's a key to get a girl to enjoy dating you, besides being your charming self: buy her stuff. That's it! Women love it when guys buy them crap. If you can't afford it, you'd better have a GREAT personality, because women are hardwired to find men that can provide. And before it's time for kids that means you just have to provide for her...in the form of lots of girly stuff. I'll be honest, my husband wasn't really my type when we met, but he took me out to dinner and a movie four times a week and bought me stuff. It sealed the deal and made me want to date him til I got to know him better. Shallow? Yes. But you guys are just as shallow as we ladies are.


We're TF fans. We don't have any money. That all goes towards toys and Botcon.


Then if you have dating woes all is solved. Unless girls really like TFs. Uh...good luck with that. My hubby is lucky. :)
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Postby Blurrz » Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:42 pm

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Ah... Relationships.

Bank Account before dating Jackie: $3000
Bank Account after dating Jackie: -$35435435903485309543

Not fun. Not fun at all.
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Postby Moonbase2 » Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:44 pm

Blurrz wrote:Ah... Relationships.

Bank Account before dating Jackie: $3000
Bank Account after dating Jackie: -$35435435903485309543

Not fun. Not fun at all.


Nobody says we come cheap. You can't get something for nothing. :grin:
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Postby Nightracer GT » Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:10 am

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But isn't that....

you know....


Prostitution?



Dating me is it's own reward. Damn it. :-P
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Postby Moonbase2 » Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:30 am

Dark Zarak wrote:But isn't that....

you know....


Prostitution?



Dating me is it's own reward. Damn it. :-P


:-$ :-$ :-$

Don't call it that! But, uh....yeah, you gotta "pay" for it, one way or another. Why do you think so many women order salads, instead of an expensive meal? :P
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Postby G1 Blaster » Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:06 pm

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I don't know about all that but this $40 per lapdance is killing me. How am I supposed to buy that, TF toys and fund an army to rule the world with prices like that?
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Postby Bed Bugs » Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:12 pm

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G1Blaster wrote:I don't know about all that but this $40 per lapdance is killing me. How am I supposed to buy that, TF toys and fund an army to rule the world with prices like that?


Hire a Mercenary Army of Strippers, armed with Transforming toys and take over the world! :P :lol:
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Postby Insurgent » Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:22 pm

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G1Blaster wrote:I don't know about all that but this $40 per lapdance is killing me. How am I supposed to buy that, TF toys and fund an army to rule the world with prices like that?


Hire a Mercenary Army of Strippers, armed with Transforming toys and take over the world! :P :lol:


Each one packing a G1 Megs. Now that's a plan.
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Postby Moonbase2 » Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:39 pm

Only reason a lapdance costs $40 is because you yokels are willing to pay it.
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Postby G1 Blaster » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:08 pm

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Insurgent wrote:
Fender Bender wrote:
G1Blaster wrote:I don't know about all that but this $40 per lapdance is killing me. How am I supposed to buy that, TF toys and fund an army to rule the world with prices like that?


Hire a Mercenary Army of Strippers, armed with Transforming toys and take over the world! :P :lol:


Each one packing a G1 Megs. Now that's a plan.


That's the greatest thing I've ever heard.
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Re: A "Tribute" to the Nice Guys

Postby Cole Regnum » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:55 pm

Blurrz wrote:I've been feeling real down lately. I can't seem to explain it. The stress of entering my senior year at high school, with the addition of thoughts like "what am I doing with my life?" and "how the hell am I going to get 08 Bumblebee" or my personal unfavorite "am I going to ask out that girl?". I know this isn't exactly the best place to complain about my problems, so i've decided to share something that truly inspired me when I was feeling down.

"This is a tribute to the nice guys. The nice guys that finish last, that never become more than friends, that endure hours of whining and bitching about what assholes guys/girls are, while disproving the very point. This is dedicated to those guys who always provide a shoulder to lean on but restrain themselves to tentative hugs, those guys who hold open doors and give reassuring pats on the back and sit patiently outside the changing room at department stores. This is in honor of the guys that obligingly reiterate how cute/beautiful/smart/funny/sexy their female friends are at the appropriate moment, because they know most girls need that litany of support. This is in honor of the guys with open minds, with laid-back attitudes, with honest concern. This is in honor of the guys who respect a girl’s every facet, from her privacy to her theology to her clothing style.

This is for the guys who escort their drunk, bewildered female friends back from parties and never take advantage once they’re at her door, for the guys who accompany girls to bars as buffers against the rest of the creepy male population, for the guys who know a girl is fishing for compliments but give them out anyway, for the guys who always play by the rules in a game where the rules favor cheaters, for the guys who are accredited as boyfriend material but somehow don’t end up being boyfriends, for all the nice guys who are overlooked, underestimated, and unappreciated, for all the nice guys who are manipulated, misled, and unjustly abandoned, this is for you.

This is for that time she left 40 urgent messages on your cell phone, and when you called her back, she spent three hours painstakingly dissecting two sentences her boyfriend said to her over dinner. And even though you thought her boyfriend was a chump and a jerk, you assured her that it was all ok and she shouldn’t worry about it. This is for that time she interrupted the best killing spree you’d ever orchestrated in GTA3 to rant about a rumor that romantically linked her and the guy she thinks is the most repulsive person in the world. And even though you thought it was immature and you had nothing against the guy, you paused the game for two hours and helped her concoct a counter-rumor to spread around the floor. This is also for that time she didn’t have a date, so after numerous vows that there was nothing “serious” between the two of you, she dragged you to a party where you knew nobody, the beer was awful, and she flirted shamelessly with you, justifying each fit of reckless teasing by announcing to everyone: “oh, but we’re just friends!” And even though you were invited purely as a symbolic warm body for her ego, you went anyways. Because you’re nice like that.

The nice guys don’t often get credit where credit is due. And perhaps more disturbing, the nice guys don’t seem to get laid as often as they should. And I wish I could logically explain this trend, but I can’t. From what I have observed on campus and what I have learned from talking to friends at other schools and in the workplace, the only conclusion I can form is that many some girls are just illogical, manipulative bitches. Many of them claim they just want to date a nice guy, but when presented with such a specimen, they say irrational, confusing things such as “oh, he’s too nice to date” or “he would be a good boyfriend but he’s not for me” or “he already puts up with so much from me, I couldn’t possibly ask him out!” or the most frustrating of all: “no, it would ruin our friendship.” Yet, they continue to lament the lack of datable men in the world, and they expect their too-nice-to-date male friends to sympathize and apologize for the men that are jerks. Sorry, guys, girls like that are beyond my ability to fathom. I can’t figure out why the connection breaks down between what they say (I want a nice guy!) and what they do (I’m going to sleep with this complete ass now!). But one thing I can do, is say that the nice-guy-finishes-last phenomenon doesn’t last forever. There are definitely many girls who grow out of that train of thought and realize they should be dating the nice guys, not taking them for granted. The tricky part is finding those girls, and even trickier, finding the ones that are single.

So, until those girls are found, I propose a toast to all the nice guys. You know who you are, and I know you’re sick of hearing yourself described as ubiquitously nice. But the truth of the matter is, the world needs your patience in the department store, your holding open of doors, your party escorting services, your propensity to be a sucker for a pretty smile. For all the crazy, inane, absurd things you tolerate, for all the situations where you are the faceless, nameless hero, my accolades, my acknowledgement, and my gratitude go out to you. You do have credibility in this society, and your well deserved vindication is coming."

Cheers,

Phil



Awwww, thanks. :lol:

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Postby Malikon » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:40 am

Learn to play guitar and sing, start a band, do some gigs, get some tattoos, you'll never have lady problems again.

I don't pay for sh*t when it comes to a girl, they buy ME stuff, lol.

Oh wait, that means I'm one of the 'Bad boys' and not one of the 'nice guys'

little secret, I'm actually a nice guy, but you'll get alot more p***y NOT being the nice guy.

Besides, who the hell would want to be 'friends' with a girl anyway?!? I've got friends. Guy friends, where we go to bars and talk about guy things. You are a nice guy, TOO nice. Some girl wants to whine and complain to you for HOURS about her boyfriend?? Are you insane? Tell that clingy/whiny ho you really don't have time to be listening to this sh*t. You know, act like you've got balls. Tell her to go whine to her girlfriends.

See that? That's the problem right there. These chicks think of you as a girlfriend.

Woman are cool and all, they can be alot of fun. But they can also be a complete pain in the ass. I'd been going out with my girl for about 3 weeks when she started trying to inch into 'Bitch mode', I told her flat out no BS I wouldn't put up with it.

Woman will test you and push you to see how much and just what they can get away with. Don't let em get away with anything or you'll be sorry.

Look at the guy who's married to a woman who wasn't even interested in him until he bought her stuff? Fug that. Like someone said, that's just prostitution.

Woman are insane. Realize it, accept them for it, but never forget it. There's something supernatural about anything that bleeds for a week straight and doesn't die.
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Postby Moonbase2 » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:51 am

Malikon wrote:Learn to play guitar and sing, start a band, do some gigs, get some tattoos, you'll never have lady problems again.

I don't pay for sh*t when it comes to a girl, they buy ME stuff, lol.

Oh wait, that means I'm one of the 'Bad boys' and not one of the 'nice guys'

little secret, I'm actually a nice guy, but you'll get alot more p***y NOT being the nice guy.

Besides, who the hell would want to be 'friends' with a girl anyway?!? I've got friends. Guy friends, where we go to bars and talk about guy things. You are a nice guy, TOO nice. Some girl wants to whine and complain to you for HOURS about her boyfriend?? Are you insane? Tell that clingy/whiny ho you really don't have time to be listening to this sh*t. You know, act like you've got balls. Tell her to go whine to her girlfriends.

See that? That's the problem right there. These chicks think of you as a girlfriend.

Woman are cool and all, they can be alot of fun. But they can also be a complete pain in the ass. I'd been going out with my girl for about 3 weeks when she started trying to inch into 'Bitch mode', I told her flat out no BS I wouldn't put up with it.

Woman will test you and push you to see how much and just what they can get away with. Don't let em get away with anything or you'll be sorry.

Look at the guy who's married to a woman who wasn't even interested in him until he bought her stuff? Fug that. Like someone said, that's just prostitution.

Woman are insane. Realize it, accept them for it, but never forget it. There's something supernatural about anything that bleeds for a week straight and doesn't die.


Uh, you get a lot of p***y? Ok.....I'm sure it's from the best of the best, huh?

I tell you, I hate when men let women buy them stuff all the time, or expect a girl to pick up the check. You'll only pick up women that are extremely desperate for a man. Men are supposed to provide. If you want women to give it up, by God you gotta give something in return! We are not usually on the prowl for sex like you are, but we like money and we like stuff, so we want that in return. Yeah, it's bitchy and shallow, but we aren't the ones that pay for sex in a dark alley or our car, are we? See, we are the ones having your brats and cleaning up after you. Why should we pay for your dinners or buy you gifts? Please.

Oh, and that stupid "doesn't bleed and die" line? What are we, 13? Ok, maybe you are....but I hope you don't say stupid, stupid **** like that when talking to women.
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Postby Malikon » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:19 am

actually I'm 30, a professional musician and artist, and I usually date models or girls who could be models. The woman I'm seeing now has a degree, her own clothes line, and her own outlet store for those clothes. So no, she's not some nasty skank, she's quite beautiful and extremely bright. Which is why I go out with her. She's smart enough to have an actual conversation.

Don't hate on me because I won't put up with a womans bullshit, I don't have to. I've had over 50 girlfriends since I was 15, and most, not all, but most, act exactly the same. A whiny, clingy, pain in the ass.

I like how you go on and on about how men need to buy their woman stuff. I buy stuff for my girl all the time, but I don't do it because I have to, I do it because I want to. Plus it's only fair, she buys me stuff too.

And no woman picks up after me, cleans up after me, etc. I usually clean up after her, do the dishes, etc. She doesn't wait on me hand and foot and I wouldn't want her too.

and the bleeding thing? It's just funny, don't get so bent out of shape over a joke.

Sounds like I touched a nerve, sorry about that. But don't hate me just because I don't put up with **** from a woman.
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Postby Malikon » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:25 am

Moonbase2 wrote:

Uh, you get a lot of p***y? Ok.....I'm sure it's from the best of the best, huh?

**actually yeah, alot of it has been**

I tell you, I hate when men let women buy them stuff all the time, or expect a girl to pick up the check.

**Yet woman will bitch about womans equality while still expecting you to hold the door open for them and pay for everything**

You'll only pick up women that are extremely desperate for a man.

**uh,..no. Those are called Bar-Flies. They're usually fat, ugly, smelly and drunk.**

Men are supposed to provide.

**We do, and have been for thousands of years**

If you want women to give it up, by God you gotta give something in return! We are not usually on the prowl for sex like you are, but we like money and we like stuff, so we want that in return.

**Money for sex, yeah we touched on that earlier. It's called prostitution, remember?**

Yeah, it's bitchy and shallow, but we aren't the ones that pay for sex in a dark alley or our car, are we?

**Wouldn't know about that, you seem to though**

See, we are the ones having your brats and cleaning up after you.

**Brats huh? Man where can I find a woman that'll call my child a Brat? That's so HOT!!**

Why should we pay for your dinners or buy you gifts? Please.

**Because you're a fair and balanced person who also gets dinners and gifts? Because it shows your partner that you love them and care?? Crazy concept huh?**

Oh, and that stupid "doesn't bleed and die" line? What are we, 13? Ok, maybe you are....but I hope you don't say stupid, stupid **** like that when talking to women.

**Not usually, but sometimes. Chicks usually like a guy with a sense of humor. I'll see if I can find you one.



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Postby Moonbase2 » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:33 am

Malikon wrote:actually I'm 30, a professional musician and artist, and I usually date models or girls who could be models. The woman I'm seeing now has a degree, her own clothes line, and her own outlet store for those clothes. So no, she's not some nasty skank, she's quite beautiful and extremely bright. Which is why I go out with her. She's smart enough to have an actual conversation.

Don't hate on me because I won't put up with a womans bullshit, I don't have to. I've had over 50 girlfriends since I was 15, and most, not all, but most, act exactly the same. A whiny, clingy, pain in the ass.

I like how you go on and on about how men need to buy their woman stuff. I buy stuff for my girl all the time, but I don't do it because I have to, I do it because I want to. Plus it's only fair, she buys me stuff too.

And no woman picks up after me, cleans up after me, etc. I usually clean up after her, do the dishes, etc. She doesn't wait on me hand and foot and I wouldn't want her too.

and the bleeding thing? It's just funny, don't get so bent out of shape over a joke.

Sounds like I touched a nerve, sorry about that. But don't hate me just because I don't put up with **** from a woman.


Well, the "joke" isn't funny, and hasn't been since middle schoolers started saying it. It is something that makes women feel shameful about a normal biological function. I even take a certain birth control so I don't have it. But enough about that.

Good for you for having a successful dating life. No, you shouldn't have to put up with whiny bitchiness. In fact, that is one reason I have never had an abundance of female friends. I mean, look at me, I'm hanging out on a Transformers forum. I don't treat my husband like crap, and I'm not clingy. Trust me, he appreciates it. And I expect the same courtesy in return. I have a business I started and he's kept out of it. At the beginning he could've bugged me about the money going into something that wasn't a solid thing yet, and he didn't. Now, because he stayed out of it, I have my own business and we'll start having extra income very soon.

I still don't think women should have to pay for dinner. Maybe, after a while, she can pick up her OWN tab, but a girl should NEVER pay for a man's meal. It's just unnatural. It's ok for a girl to buy a guy a gift every now and then, but it should never be expected as well.

Some women are definitely into musicians. That's cool. Never been my thing-- I'm more into the business type myself. And I'm not some money hungry bitch, trust me! My husband is a soldier, and I married him for love. We have to make the money ourselves.
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Postby Moonbase2 » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:42 am

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Uh, you get a lot of p***y? Ok.....I'm sure it's from the best of the best, huh?

**actually yeah, alot of it has been**
Good for you, honestly. But a lot of guys with your attitude don't. But you may be good looking.

I tell you, I hate when men let women buy them stuff all the time, or expect a girl to pick up the check.

**Yet woman will bitch about womans equality while still expecting you to hold the door open for them and pay for everything**

Women have things harder than you'll ever know, and I mean worldwide. So it's ok for you to open a damn door. You are physically stronger and it should be a natural thing for you to be courteous to a female. Also, until we have equality, which we don't, you can open a freaking door!

You'll only pick up women that are extremely desperate for a man.

**uh,..no. Those are called Bar-Flies. They're usually fat, ugly, smelly and drunk.**

Well, a woman that is willing to pay for a man's meal must be desperate. It ain't happening with me.

Men are supposed to provide.

**We do, and have been for thousands of years**

Good, keep at it.


If you want women to give it up, by God you gotta give something in return! We are not usually on the prowl for sex like you are, but we like money and we like stuff, so we want that in return.

**Money for sex, yeah we touched on that earlier. It's called prostitution, remember?**

Well, men expect sex when they pay for a meal and a date. You know it, too. My husband calls it "ordering from the f*cking side of the menu" when a girl orders an expensive meal.

Yeah, it's bitchy and shallow, but we aren't the ones that pay for sex in a dark alley or our car, are we?

**Wouldn't know about that, you seem to though**

You are just being insulting.

See, we are the ones having your brats and cleaning up after you.

**Brats huh? Man where can I find a woman that'll call my child a Brat? That's so HOT!!**

I've got two kids I had for my husband. I didn't want them at the time I had them. I love them with all my heart, but yes, kids are brats. And you know what I was meaning anyway.

Why should we pay for your dinners or buy you gifts? Please.

**Because you're a fair and balanced person who also gets dinners and gifts? Because it shows your partner that you love them and care?? Crazy concept huh?**

Paying for your dinner is not a sign of love. It's a sign that we have no expecations for men anymore. If you ask us out on a date, you'd better be willing to pay for our company. It's a courtesy.

Oh, and that stupid "doesn't bleed and die" line? What are we, 13? Ok, maybe you are....but I hope you don't say stupid, stupid **** like that when talking to women.

**Not usually, but sometimes. Chicks usually like a guy with a sense of humor. I'll see if I can find you one.

My husband isn't immature enough for those kind of low-brow jokes. It's stupid and childish. Maybe your woman likes that kind of crap, but I'm a grown woman that doesn't put up with it. You know, like how you won't put up with women's crap?


Good day, God Bless!!
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