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A math task

Postby Edgecrusher » Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:00 am

ok here'S the scoop

you got 7 children
each child has 7 bags
in each bag you got 7 cats
and each cat has 7 kittens

how many legs are there (each cat has 4 legs)
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Postby Tweezy » Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:38 am

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Re: A math task

Postby OptimusN1701 » Mon Nov 19, 2007 4:20 am

Edgecrusher wrote:ok here'S the scoop

you got 7 children
each child has 7 bags
in each bag you got 7 cats
and each cat has 7 kittens

how many legs are there (each cat has 4 legs)


7 x 7= 49 kittens per bag + 7 adult cats per bag = 56 felines per bag
56 x 4 legs per cat = 224 legs per bag
224 x 7 = 1568 feline legs per child
1568 + 2 = 1570 legs (feline and child included)
1570 x 7(kids)=10990 legs total (unless you are to count yourself)

Hope that helps
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Postby DREWCIFER » Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:53 am

Here, Here!

I agree with the above post!

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Postby TheMuffin » Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:38 am

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Postby Psychout » Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:34 pm

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[size=0]I think the line is supposed to be "How many _legs_ have you got?" Edge. The answer is 2. ;0)[/size]
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Postby DesalationReborn » Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:26 pm

GrimSqueaker wrote:Just one......ME!


After you butchered them all and hid them in your cellar? That's awful! :sad:
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Re: A math task

Postby Bed Bugs » Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:42 pm

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OptimusN1701 wrote:
Edgecrusher wrote:ok here'S the scoop

you got 7 children
each child has 7 bags
in each bag you got 7 cats
and each cat has 7 kittens

how many legs are there (each cat has 4 legs)


7 x 7= 49 kittens per bag + 7 adult cats per bag = 56 felines per bag
56 x 4 legs per cat = 224 legs per bag
224 x 7 = 1568 feline legs per child
1568 + 2 = 1570 legs (feline and child included)
1570 x 7(kids)=10990 legs total (unless you are to count yourself)

Hope that helps


Or, and easier way to express it is:

(7x2)+(7x7x7x4)+(7x7x7x7x4)=10990

(Kids legs)+(Cats legs)+(Kittens legs)=Total legs
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Postby Mkall » Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:19 pm

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Adding a second level of logicality to this, the phrase "you have" could also mean that the person involved is to also be included in this. Assuming that "you" doesn't have any legs missing, add an additional two to the answer, in this case 10990 + 2 = 10992

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Re: A math task

Postby OptimusN1701 » Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:30 pm

Fender Bender wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:
Edgecrusher wrote:ok here'S the scoop

you got 7 children
each child has 7 bags
in each bag you got 7 cats
and each cat has 7 kittens

how many legs are there (each cat has 4 legs)


7 x 7= 49 kittens per bag + 7 adult cats per bag = 56 felines per bag
56 x 4 legs per cat = 224 legs per bag
224 x 7 = 1568 feline legs per child
1568 + 2 = 1570 legs (feline and child included)
1570 x 7(kids)=10990 legs total (unless you are to count yourself)

Hope that helps


Or, and easier way to express it is:

(7x2)+(7x7x7x4)+(7x7x7x7x4)=10990

(Kids legs)+(Cats legs)+(Kittens legs)=Total legs


My mind doesnt always work things out very efficiently at 2:30 in the morning :-P I tend to over think and explain things when I'm tired
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Re: A math task

Postby Bed Bugs » Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:59 am

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OptimusN1701 wrote:
Fender Bender wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:
Edgecrusher wrote:ok here'S the scoop

you got 7 children
each child has 7 bags
in each bag you got 7 cats
and each cat has 7 kittens

how many legs are there (each cat has 4 legs)


7 x 7= 49 kittens per bag + 7 adult cats per bag = 56 felines per bag
56 x 4 legs per cat = 224 legs per bag
224 x 7 = 1568 feline legs per child
1568 + 2 = 1570 legs (feline and child included)
1570 x 7(kids)=10990 legs total (unless you are to count yourself)

Hope that helps


Or, and easier way to express it is:

(7x2)+(7x7x7x4)+(7x7x7x7x4)=10990

(Kids legs)+(Cats legs)+(Kittens legs)=Total legs


My mind doesnt always work things out very efficiently at 2:30 in the morning :-P I tend to over think and explain things when I'm tired


Don't mind me, I just look for ways to make math simpler. You did just fine. :)
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Postby Nightracer GT » Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:33 am

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Postby AlienQuiksilver » Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:38 am

where are the kittens and the kids? Maybe they're all at grandmama's house? It is only stated that there are 7 cats (with 4 legs each) in 7 different bags x 7 kids.

The "has" in: (Each kid has 7 bags) could just state ownership, so the kids don't have to be present. Therefore ... I'm not counting the legs of the kids.

The focus is how many legs are in the bags ... by the wording of the riddle. The kids could be somewhere else, so could the kittens.

Also, we don't know how many legs that the kittens or children have. The only information we can go on is what we know already.

by my logic there are only 1,372 legs. It's all we can know for sure, everything else in inconclusive.
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Postby *AUTOBOT STITH » Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:41 am

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Postby Leonardo » Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:51 am

The question is somewhat 'flawed'. It reads:

The question wrote:in each bag you got 7 cats
and each cat has 7 kittens


making a distinction between cats and kittens and then says:

The question wrote:how many legs are there (each cat has 4 legs)


By the question's own logic, one could argue either:

i) that it should read "each cat and each kitten has 4 legs",

or

ii) that the question does not tell us how many legs each kitten has (as it only says how many legs each cat has), therefore making it impossible to work out how many kitten legs there are.

EDIT: As AlienQuikSilver says, we don't know how many legs the children or the kittens have.
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Postby AlienQuiksilver » Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:30 am

Leonardo wrote:The question is somewhat 'flawed'. It reads:

The question wrote:in each bag you got 7 cats
and each cat has 7 kittens


making a distinction between cats and kittens and then says:

The question wrote:how many legs are there (each cat has 4 legs)


By the question's own logic, one could argue either:

i) that it should read "each cat and each kitten has 4 legs",

or

ii) that the question does not tell us how many legs each kitten has (as it only says how many legs each cat has), therefore making it impossible to work out how many kitten legs there are.

EDIT: As AlienQuikSilver says, we don't know how many legs the children or the kittens have.


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Postby Edgecrusher » Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:28 am

And the answer is..... UNICRON ups err wrong line



the correct answer is 10990 8)
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Postby Leonardo » Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:33 am

Edgecrusher wrote:And the answer is..... UNICRON ups err wrong line



the correct answer is 10990 8)


Why is the answer 10,990?
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Postby KAMJIIN » Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:04 am

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Note: It never said the kittens were in the bag. Only that each cat has seven kittens.
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Postby Leonardo » Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:21 am

KAMJIIN wrote:::Erases chalkboard::


Note: It never said the kittens were in the bag. Only that each cat has seven kittens.


The question doesn't specify that the legs have to be in the bags. It just says, "how many legs are there (each cat has 4 legs)". Given the lack of distinction, one could argue that it refers to either the amount of legs inside the bags, the amount of legs outside of the bags, the total number of legs inside and outside the bags or something else entirely. Not to mention the problem of the children's legs.

I think I've missed something here.
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Postby AlienQuiksilver » Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:06 am

Eh, Edgecrusher just worded it "their" way ... and not the way that it was originally written.

Unless Edgecrusher invented the riddle? In that case, it's obviously going to need some polishing if everybody is to have a fair shot at it.

But yes, the answer is 10,990 if one is completely ignorant to the fact that there are a lack of crucially important details. My mind can't get past that. It doesn't make me superior or anything, because sometimes I miss out on things that ideally require less thought.

With that said, I envy those who got from point A to point Z without getting hung up on everything that is/isn't there.
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Postby Leonardo » Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:09 am

A la OptimusN1701's original answer!
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Postby Edgecrusher » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:57 am

7 kids*2legs = 14 legs
7kids*7bags*7cats*4legs = 1372 legs
7kids*7bags*7cats*7kittens*4legs= 9604 legs

alltogether 10990 legs
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