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[quote="typh0id"

Ok sorry, I'm going off a bit now...I just have a feeling this new girl I'm seeing isn't going to be terribly impressed with my as of yet unknown hobby...[/quote]


If the new girl has a problem with it, go find the curb lady. It is all about what you are into. If she doesn't like it, go find someone who does. Don't compromise your happiness to impress someone else.

HK, even though lots of people collect different things, some things are more "socially acceptable" to collect as adults. Apperently it is perfectly acceptable for someone to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on a purse but unacceptable to spend 140 on MP Grimlock (I use that example because it just came up with me and a friends wife). For guys it is perfectly acceptable to spend thousands of dollars putting tint, spoiler, muffler, and paint on a piece of junk car but not ok to buy Grimlock (again, just came up).

hellkitty wrote:Geez, guys! You make us females sound like we're awfully shallow and judgmental, and about something that even the most stereotypical bimbo-tron female can relate to: *collecting*. Even if your lady-friends don't collect plastic icons of infinite coolness (as we do), surely they collect *something*.

Wow...have you ever actually MET a female?? (I mean, besides yourself, obviously)...A large portion of your population ARE shallow and judgemental...Not all of you...But a lot of you...

And anyway, I'm not retarded...This girl does NOT collect anything as far as I've been able to tell...Except maybe MP3's because she loves music so much...But I'm sorry, music and children's toys are not exactly what I'd call a common interest...

And it's not like we don't have anything at all in common...We have a lot...Just not that...And from what I know of what she IS or ISN'T into, I just get a feeling my collection of "dolls" is not exactly going to make her melt...

SJ21 wrote:If the new girl has a problem with it, go find the curb lady. It is all about what you are into. If she doesn't like it, go find someone who does. Don't compromise your happiness to impress someone else.

But yeah...the bottom line is that if she DOES end up having a problem with it and would stop seeing me over it than #$%@ her...As I said, I'm not ashamed and it's a part of who I am and if that's no good for her than she's not right for me anyway...

My only aprehension really comes from the fact that I've been having a lot of fun with her and I hate to see it end over something stupid like that...Whatever happens, happens...and I'll live...But I'm going to draw it out as long as I can


And I totally agree with what SJ21 said to the effect of it being hypocritical to see one frivolous purchase as being more justified than another just because you don't "understand" the other...That happens ALOT! I have a friend who rolls her eyes when I spend $50 on a Transformer but then turns around and spends crazy amounts of money on a pair of shoes when she already has like 100 pairs...I don't care at all that she buys a ton of shoes but I don't really see how it's any different...

The human race is, in general, shallow and judgemental. Thats not women, thats everyone. What one person sees as frivalous, someone else sees as important.

Unfortunately, when you first start dating someone, you don't know if they are going to see your collection of plastic crack as something of value or as something stupid. Personally, I know there are certain things about a woman that I simply won't tolerate. They are deal-breakers. Hopefully the new person's "deal-breakers" aren't something as trivial as what you choose to collect. You just have to present it as part of you and hope for the best.

SJ21 wrote:The human race is, in general, shallow and judgemental. Thats not women, thats everyone.

I actually didn't mean to imply that was JUST women who are like that...It just happened to be the context...

typh0id wrote:
Wow...have you ever actually MET a female?? (I mean, besides yourself, obviously)...A large portion of your population ARE shallow and judgemental...Not all of you...But a lot of you...

I know you're just kidding, but yeah, I meet a lot of females probably of around your demographic. I teach college. And true, I'd say that the majority of my female students are painfully shallow, judgmental, high maintenance and narcissistic. I wouldn't want any friend of *mine* dating them.

Unfortunately, they're 'pretty' in that very contrived fake-tan, pushup bra, mani/pedi, and spackle makeup way. Which means that guys fall over them all the time.

Meanwhile, there are girls in my classes (10 % or so) who are not like that at all. Cool, fun, not hung up on themselves, creative, individualistic. Unfortunately, the guys tend to leave them alone to prefer to chase after the bimbos. So. Question then becomes, whose to blame? Isn't the GUY being shallow and judgmental for passing over the cool though less fashionably dressed students in favor of the girl who wears her stiletto Ferragamos to class?

Me, I think a little bit that he deserves what he gets. Choose better. Look deeper. Look *under* the frickin' hood.

And it's not like we don't have anything at all in common...We have a lot...Just not that...And from what I know of what she IS or ISN'T into, I just get a feeling my collection of "dolls" is not exactly going to make her melt...

Not meaning to put on my Dr. Freud hat, but...you keep projecting onto her this rejection thing--that she'll find out about your toys and reject you. I suggest that maybe it's YOU that is uncomfortable? Don't take out on her (and the relationship) your fear that she *might* reject you for something that you obviously feel insecure about!

My crazy Italian side has a saying that you should remember. It's in a non standard dialect, but I'll translate:

Chi non me vuole non me merite. Who doesn't want me doesn't deserve me.

Now stop downing yourself and your toy collection before I have to come beat you into some self-esteem. Which you will not enjoy. Though I might.


HK, dominatrix for the greater good

hellkitty wrote:

typh0id wrote:
Wow...have you ever actually MET a female?? (I mean, besides yourself, obviously)...A large portion of your population ARE shallow and judgemental...Not all of you...But a lot of you...

I know you're just kidding, but yeah, I meet a lot of females probably of around your demographic. I teach college. And true, I'd say that the majority of my female students are painfully shallow, judgmental, high maintenance and narcissistic. I wouldn't want any friend of *mine* dating them.

Unfortunately, they're 'pretty' in that very contrived fake-tan, pushup bra, mani/pedi, and spackle makeup way. Which means that guys fall over them all the time.

Meanwhile, there are girls in my classes (10 % or so) who are not like that at all. Cool, fun, not hung up on themselves, creative, individualistic. Unfortunately, the guys tend to leave them alone to prefer to chase after the bimbos. So. Question then becomes, whose to blame? Isn't the GUY being shallow and judgmental for passing over the cool though less fashionably dressed students in favor of the girl who wears her stiletto Ferragamos to class?

Me, I think a little bit that he deserves what he gets. Choose better. Look deeper. Look *under* the frickin' hood.

And it's not like we don't have anything at all in common...We have a lot...Just not that...And from what I know of what she IS or ISN'T into, I just get a feeling my collection of "dolls" is not exactly going to make her melt...

Not meaning to put on my Dr. Freud hat, but...you keep projecting onto her this rejection thing--that she'll find out about your toys and reject you. I suggest that maybe it's YOU that is uncomfortable? Don't take out on her (and the relationship) your fear that she *might* reject you for something that you obviously feel insecure about!

My crazy Italian side has a saying that you should remember. It's in a non standard dialect, but I'll translate:

Chi non me vuole non me merite. Who doesn't want me doesn't deserve me.

Now stop downing yourself and your toy collection before I have to come beat you into some self-esteem. Which you will not enjoy. Though I might.


HK, dominatrix for the greater good

A fellow teacher on the message board. Nice.
Even though someone dresses nice, that doesn't mean they are not cool people. I think what we are getting at here is, don't discriminate before you get a chance to know someone.

Typh0id, I will be interested to hear how things work out with the new girl and the collection. I think you will be fine. Most poeple find the collections to be pretty interesting.

SJ21 wrote:Typh0id, I will be interested to hear how things work out with the new girl and the collection. I think you will be fine. Most poeple find the collections to be pretty interesting.

Haha...this is almost funny...We actually broke up before it ever even became an issue...So I guess it's pretty moot now

Thanks for the kind words and advice from both of you (I am of course talking to SJ21 and Hellkitty)

typh0id wrote:

SJ21 wrote:Typh0id, I will be interested to hear how things work out with the new girl and the collection. I think you will be fine. Most poeple find the collections to be pretty interesting.

Haha...this is almost funny...We actually broke up before it ever even became an issue...So I guess it's pretty moot now

Thanks for the kind words and advice from both of you (I am of course talking to SJ21 and Hellkitty)

Sorry to hear that. You will save the "collection sharing" for the next girl then.

Funny story. I told my girlfriend to be watching for the UPS guy because MP Grimlock was on the way. She then suggested that I get another shelf downstairs for all of my "really nice TF's". Score!

SJ21 wrote:Funny story. I told my girlfriend to be watching for the UPS guy because MP Grimlock was on the way. She then suggested that I get another shelf downstairs for all of my "really nice TF's". Score!

Haha that's awesome I could use some new shelves myself...

SJ21 wrote:Funny story. I told my girlfriend to be watching for the UPS guy because MP Grimlock was on the way. She then suggested that I get another shelf downstairs for all of my "really nice TF's". Score!

Always something good to hear. Depending on her level of interest, ask her if there are any pieces in your colection she thinks should join Grimmy in that display. It's nice that she is that positive towards your colecting, but if you can make that shelf a colaberation, it can be something more special.

Writen while looking at the animated Dinobots in his cubicle, thinking where in the living room they will go, when he switches jobs again in a couple months.

My best friend finds it kind of amusing, but he works at wal*mart and if he sees the name "Starscream" he immediately sends me a text or calls me to tell me about it because he knows Starscream is my favorite. He randomly asks about certain characters and tries to wrap his mind around how Starscream and Sunstorm are brothers. Its pretty amusing. But sometimes he does have a sincere interest in learning about some of them because of how awesome they look or sound.

Whenever we go to a store that has a toy section the first thing we do is head to Transformers(which since my part of Ohio is pretty much IGNORED we don't get much) and look for anything I like. But they only ever have figures I want when I'm flat broke. Then we look at GI JOE in hopes of finding me anything Cobra Commander related. Usually with no luck...

Then we play a little game we call "Who is still in the company?". We go to the wrestling action figures section, mainly the WWE section and see how many people are actually still working for the company and/or alive. Its pretty fun when we find a section that has all figures of wrestlers that were fired/quit/dead.

Now, onto the girl. I'm not dating her(yet), but I am certainly crazy about her. The first time she ever came to my house she saw my Cybertron Legends Sunstorm and tried(unsuccessfully) to transform him for a good 10 minutes before asking me to do it. Her eyes kind of grew to disbelief when she looked up and saw the Supreme Class Cybertron Starscream. She kept looking at the Legends Sunstorm then at Supreme Starscream. It was kind of funny. I kind of got uneasy thinking she'd be less interested in me, but she said it was adorable and cute.

original sin wrote:My best friend finds it kind of amusing, but he works at wal*mart and if he sees the name "Starscream" he immediately sends me a text or calls me to tell me about it because he knows Starscream is my favorite. He randomly asks about certain characters and tries to wrap his mind around how Starscream and Sunstorm are brothers. Its pretty amusing. But sometimes he does have a sincere interest in learning about some of them because of how awesome they look or sound.

Whenever we go to a store that has a toy section the first thing we do is head to Transformers(which since my part of Ohio is pretty much IGNORED we don't get much) and look for anything I like. But they only ever have figures I want when I'm flat broke. Then we look at GI JOE in hopes of finding me anything Cobra Commander related. Usually with no luck...

Then we play a little game we call "Who is still in the company?". We go to the wrestling action figures section, mainly the WWE section and see how many people are actually still working for the company and/or alive. Its pretty fun when we find a section that has all figures of wrestlers that were fired/quit/dead.

Now, onto the girl. I'm not dating her(yet), but I am certainly crazy about her. The first time she ever came to my house she saw my Cybertron Legends Sunstorm and tried(unsuccessfully) to transform him for a good 10 minutes before asking me to do it. Her eyes kind of grew to disbelief when she looked up and saw the Supreme Class Cybertron Starscream. She kept looking at the Legends Sunstorm then at Supreme Starscream. It was kind of funny. I kind of got uneasy thinking she'd be less interested in me, but she said it was adorable and cute.

Replys in reverse order.

Paragraph 4) That sounds good, you already have a good basis going there, hopefully she is interested in a relationship.


P 3) That is funny, cause i've done similar stuff while looking at those. BTW for some reason my area is a swamp for ECW Joey figs. Are they as abundant where you are?

P 2) Trust me, Canadians feel your pain as far as being ignored on some shipments, Hell Hasbro seems to have just realized that there are still GIJoe fans up here.

P 1) They aren't brothers, SS is a corrupted clone. (and damn Zellers better get the animated SS in soon)

In the Dreamwave comics they refer to themselves as brothers. That's what I was referring to.

Yes you are correct there. Sunstorm did just 'brother', then again he is also an insane psychopath with a massiah complex....

Blah, as far as personal canon goes to some all the seekers are brothers so it one of those things that is simply up in the air.

Editor wrote:

SJ21 wrote:Funny story. I told my girlfriend to be watching for the UPS guy because MP Grimlock was on the way. She then suggested that I get another shelf downstairs for all of my "really nice TF's". Score!

Always something good to hear. Depending on her level of interest, ask her if there are any pieces in your colection she thinks should join Grimmy in that display. It's nice that she is that positive towards your colecting, but if you can make that shelf a colaberation, it can be something more special.

Writen while looking at the animated Dinobots in his cubicle, thinking where in the living room they will go, when he switches jobs again in a couple months.

Thats a good idea. Of course, if I leave it up to her the entire shelf would be covered in Bumblebee's (she's a big fan of BB).

Hey glad to be of help. I know when we set up the living room at our new place last year, that things worked better when me and mine chose what worked in the living room between both of our diverse collections of stuff.

See, my issue is really the exact opposite: a lot of guys get really turned off by my TF collection.

While I secretly think they can't handle the competition (Starscream is pretty scrumptious), they seem to find a nominally adult woman who collects toys to be kinda creepy. If I collected shoes or Prada handbags or Sephora makeup, they'd find it cute and normal. But robots? Nope. Uncool. Lame. Weird. Mental.

One guy, with $10,000 of rims on his car, told me my collection was a 'waste of money'.

Of course, I immediately told him he was a waste of hydrogen. Thankfully he was only a friend of a friend over to pick up my old fridge, but still.

HK whose relationships tend to end...incendiarily.

I guess in a sence that I was lucky to hook up with my GF. Before I started testing the waters with her I knew that she already liked anime and had a passing interest in Transformers seeing she attended the opening night showing at the same theater I went to, both in different groups that more or less merged at the theater.

I thought my chances were dead about a month before we started going out when at a staff party for one of the Anime cons we volunteer for she spent a couple hours chatting with another girl who had asked me out and I had turned down. (long story, friends for a couple years, I helped her get out of a bad relationship with an abusive guy. At the time she asked I just wasn't interested in being her rebound and was ending a relationship myself) I was sure that by now she had heard how I "led her on, and then turned my back" (not the case and people around us know it, but she was angry at the time). My GF was good enough to ask about my side of the situation and was able to work things out for herself.

In starting to go out I found that she had an anime & manga collection to rival my own and a number of other things that she collected, so we both understand each others hobby's.

The only thing left is to visit her family in Quebec, and then we'll be taking the next steps.

hellkitty wrote:See, my issue is really the exact opposite: a lot of guys get really turned off by my TF collection.

While I secretly think they can't handle the competition (Starscream is pretty scrumptious), they seem to find a nominally adult woman who collects toys to be kinda creepy. If I collected shoes or Prada handbags or Sephora makeup, they'd find it cute and normal. But robots? Nope. Uncool. Lame. Weird. Mental.

One guy, with $10,000 of rims on his car, told me my collection was a 'waste of money'.

Of course, I immediately told him he was a waste of hydrogen. Thankfully he was only a friend of a friend over to pick up my old fridge, but still.

HK whose relationships tend to end...incendiarily.

Waste of hydrogen. Hilarious. Did he look at you with a confused "I don't understand" look?

Editor- I teach 6th grade science. I hear about every kind of drama there is from these kids. I have never heard of anime drama. I am glad it all worked out for you.

SJ21 wrote:Editor- I teach 6th grade science. I hear about every kind of drama there is from these kids. I have never heard of anime drama. I am glad it all worked out for you.

Not so much anime drama, but Convention drama. When you've been around as many conventions for as long as I have, 60% of the time is dealing with dramatics. In this case it just happens that all the players were at one when that went down.

Editor wrote:Yes you are correct there. Sunstorm did just 'brother', then again he is also an insane psychopath with a massiah complex....

Blah, as far as personal canon goes to some all the seekers are brothers so it one of those things that is simply up in the air.

Characters with Messiah Complexes always intrigue me. Especially when they're insane. I'm a seeker fanboy and I'm not afraid to admit it. Screamer and Sunstorm are my two favorites. Though, I do like Beast Machines Thrust waaayyy more then G1 Thrust. Cool biker bot>jet with barely any lines

Editor wrote:I guess in a sence that I was lucky to hook up with my GF. Before I started testing the waters with her I knew that she already liked anime and had a passing interest in Transformers seeing she attended the opening night showing at the same theater I went to, both in different groups that more or less merged at the theater.

I thought my chances were dead about a month before we started going out when at a staff party for one of the Anime cons we volunteer for she spent a couple hours chatting with another girl who had asked me out and I had turned down. (long story, friends for a couple years, I helped her get out of a bad relationship with an abusive guy. At the time she asked I just wasn't interested in being her rebound and was ending a relationship myself) I was sure that by now she had heard how I "led her on, and then turned my back" (not the case and people around us know it, but she was angry at the time). My GF was good enough to ask about my side of the situation and was able to work things out for herself.

In starting to go out I found that she had an anime & manga collection to rival my own and a number of other things that she collected, so we both understand each others hobby's.

The only thing left is to visit her family in Quebec, and then we'll be taking the next steps.

Wow I hate that! The whole "I cant believe you waste money on toys and not Coach/Shoes/etc" I too hear that a lot. Most of you guys, and I mean male guys, get off pretty easy for collecting TF's with family, if you're of the female persausion people think it doesn't make sense at all. It's like they expect me to collect barbies or something. Though I'm slowly becoming more and more infectious.

I collected for a bit when I was a kid with the Headmasters and got back into it when the movie came out. Now all four of my brothers collect them and my mom has shown interest in a few. My friends actually don't know I collect them since it never really comes up, except for my best friend who doesn't really have a opinion on it he just knows. Most of my friends are dudes so I'm sure they wouldn't care.

I do not know (personally) any female TF collectors. Other than the ladies on here, I have never come in contact with any. If I were meeting a girl for the first time and she told me she collected Tf's, I think I would be confused. I guess guys just expect girls to collect things that are more "cute".

SJ21 wrote:I do not know (personally) any female TF collectors. Other than the ladies on here, I have never come in contact with any. If I were meeting a girl for the first time and she told me she collected Tf's, I think I would be confused. I guess guys just expect girls to collect things that are more "cute".

What? You mean there's something *cuter* than Decepticons?! Take that back before you make Blackout cry.

Besides, at my size and general surly demeanor, I'd look *ludicrous* with anything kawaii.

HK, who I think just got roped into going to I-Con.

SJ21 wrote:I do not know (personally) any female TF collectors.

Wow...other than people I've met on or through Seibertron, I don't know ANYONE who collects TFs...Female OR male...