>
shop.seibertron.com amazon.seibertron.com Facebook Twitter X YouTube Pinterest Instagram Myspace LinkedIn Patreon Podcast RSS
This page runs on affiliate links — your clicks may earn us a few Shanix. Want the full transmission? Roll out to our Affiliate Disclosure.

Autobots vs. Decepticons - A G1 Analysis (Episode 2 of 3)

There is more to Transformers than movies, cartoons, comics and toys. Discuss anything else Transformers here.

Autobots vs. Decepticons - A G1 Analysis (Episode 2 of 3)

Postby mossman » Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:03 pm

Motto: ""These are random thoughts, and I am a random person.""
Weapon: High-Voltage Electric Cannon
Ok, we're back for the second installment of my analysis. Previously we looked at land and air dominance, with the Autobots taking land and the Decepticons having a slight advantage in the air. Now it's time to focus on sea and space.



Part 3: Ocean Superiority

Most of the waterbound Transformers didn’t appear until 1988, so it took a while for this setting to factor into the conflict. However the Decepticons were particularly aggressive in trying to gain an advantage here, with the creation of the Seacons and others. Did they succeed? Let’s look at the numbers:

Category – (Autobot vs. Decepticon)
Count - 6 vs. 13
Strength - 6.3 vs. 7.5
Intelligence - 7.3 vs. 6.3
Speed - 7.0 vs. 4.5
Endurance - 6.8 vs. 7.2
Courage - 9.2 vs. 7.7
Firepower - 7.2 vs. 6.7
Skill - 7.7 vs. 7.0

The Autobots are really outnumbered here, with only half the troops of their opponents. Despite this, the Autobots have a clear intelligence, speed, courage, skill, and firepower advantage. In turn the Decepticons have the numbers and the strength advantage. Can this be the first time that raw numbers are not enough to gain the overall advantage?

The best Autobot is a rough match for the best Decepticon with Broadside taking on Scourge. Give this one to the Autobots then, right? Not so fast! The Autobots almost entirely operate on the surface of the water, with only 2 of their numbers able to go underwater. In contrast, most Decepticons operate underwater. That means the Decepticons can strike at the Autobots from underwater, where the Autobots have limited ability to strike back. Then you throw in the numbers, and this is one battle the Autobots will be hard pressed to win.

Verdict: Advantage :CON: Decepticons


Part 4: Space Superiority

Not many Transformers can operate in space. I know that in the cartoon Starscream and his folk just fly into space when they wanted to, but come on, they’re fighter jets. I only counted the robots if they were either a space vehicle or their bio indicated they could fly into space from Earth’s gravity well. And I’m not counting rocket ships which are a component of a base which is otherwise earthbound. It turns out that these factors limited the field substantially. Let’s look at the numbers:

Category – (Autobot vs. Decepticon)
Count – 4 vs. 4
Strength - 6.3 vs. 7.5
Intelligence - 8.5 vs. 7.8
Speed – 10 vs. 7.8
Endurance - 6.8 vs. 6.8
Courage - 8.5 vs. 6.5
Firepower - 7.0 vs. 7.5
Skill - 8.3 vs. 8.8

Well, we know there won’t be a numbers advantage here. However the Autobots do enjoy better intelligence, speed and courage than their evil counterparts. The Decepticons have the strength advantage with a slight edge in firepower and skill. The numbers are not enough to declare a winner here.

But the best of the Autobots are enough. With Sky Lynx, Jetfire, and Cloudburst matching or besting the Decepticons Sixshot and Astrotrain, the good guys will take this one. It isn’t a slam dunk, but the star power of the Autobots provide enough to tip the balance of power in their direction.

Verdict: Slight Advantage :BOT: Autobots


Two-thirds down, and the final installment left to go.

Next Time: Finishing Big and the Big Finish
mossman
Mini-Con
Posts: 20
Joined: Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:17 am
Strength: 10
Intelligence: 10
Speed: 10
Endurance: 10
Rank: 10
Courage: 10
Firepower: 9
Skill: 9

Re: Autobots vs. Decepticons - A G1 Analysis (Episode 2 of 3)

Postby quickmixed » Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:02 am

Im enjoying reading these. Nice work.

Im not sure if you're including the Micromasters but there was an Autobot set of 4 called the Astro squad. They were combining Micromasters and were all capable of space flight.
WANTED TO BUY

C-125:Shoki, C126:Getsui, C127:Yukikaze, C129:Seizan. MIB + unused stickers PM for details.
quickmixed
Vehicon
Posts: 366
Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:00 pm

Re: Autobots vs. Decepticons - A G1 Analysis (Episode 2 of 3)

Postby mossman » Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:02 am

Motto: ""These are random thoughts, and I am a random person.""
Weapon: High-Voltage Electric Cannon
I threw out the patrols and squads because there were so many, they used a different attribute scheme, and their stats were generally quite average in ability. That might be the most questionable omission I made though. I don't know. I think if they had been treated as individuals, each with their own bio, I would have put them in. Great observation.
mossman
Mini-Con
Posts: 20
Joined: Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:17 am
Strength: 10
Intelligence: 10
Speed: 10
Endurance: 10
Rank: 10
Courage: 10
Firepower: 9
Skill: 9


Return to Transformers General Discussion


[ Incoming message. Source unknown. ] No Signal - Please Stand By [ Click to attempt signal recovery... ]


Transformers and More @ The Seibertron Store

Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "Nintendo Wii TRANSFORMERS PRIME Game + Manual + Remote + Nunchuck 2012 250228A"
Nintendo Wii TRANS ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "Transformers Legacy Evolution SHADOW STRIKER Deluxe Class Cyberverse Hasbro 2023"
Transformers Legac ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "JETFIRE Transformers Cyberverse Tiny Turbo Changers Series 1 2019 Hasbro 250111"
JETFIRE Transforme ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "BUMBLEBEE Transformers Cyberverse Tiny Turbo Changers Series 2 Hasbro 2019 New"
BUMBLEBEE Transfor ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "1 Step Changer BUMBLEBEE Transformers Cyberverse Hasbro 2018 250305"
1 Step Changer BUM ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "Rescan OPTIMUS PRIME Transformers Rescue Bots Academy Playskool Racing Truck New"
Rescan OPTIMUS PRI ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "STARSCREAM DEMOLITION DESTROYER Transformers Cyberverse Power Spark Armor Battle"
STARSCREAM DEMOLIT ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "Mega Axe Attack OPTIMUS PRIME Transformers Cyberverse Adventures Warrior 2021"
Mega Axe Attack OP ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "STING SHOT BUMBLEBEE Transformers Cyberverse 1-Step Changer Hasbro 2019 New"
STING SHOT BUMBLEB ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "1 Step Changer BUMBLEBEE Transformers Cyberverse Hasbro 2018 NEW Ages 6+"
1 Step Changer BUM ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "SHARKTICON (ORANGE) Transformers Battle Cybertron Cyberverse Tiny Turbo Changer"
SHARKTICON (ORANGE ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "ARCEE Transformers Cyberverse Adventures Deluxe Class Hasbro 2020 New 230731"
ARCEE Transformers ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "QUINTESSON INVASION Transformers Cyberverse Battle Cybertron Shockwave+Prowl NEW"
QUINTESSON INVASIO ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "JAZZ Transformers Cyberverse Tiny Turbo Changers Series 2 2019 Hasbro New"
JAZZ Transformers ...
These are affiliate links. We may earn a commission.
Details subject to change. See listing for latest price and availability.

Featured Products on Amazon.com

Buy "Transformers MPM-03 Movie 10th Anniversary Figure Bumblebee" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Authentics Starscream" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Authentics Grimlock Action Figure" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers: Generations Power of The Primes Leader Evolution Rodimus Prime" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Power of The Primes Deluxe Class Autobot Moonracer" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Power of The Primes Deluxe Terrorcon Rippersnapper" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers: Bumblebee Movie Toys, Energon Igniters Nitro Bumblebee Action Figure - Included Core Powers Driving Action - Toys for Kids 6 and Up, 7-inch" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Deluxe Stryker 1 Action Figure" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Robots in Disguise Warriors Class Autobot Jazz Figure" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers: The Last Knight Premier Edition Deluxe Barricade" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Deluxe Class Brawl" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers: The Last Knight Premier Edition Deluxe Bumblebee" on AMAZON
These are affiliate links. We may earn a commission.
Details subject to change. See listing for latest price and availability.