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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:13 pm

Motto: "Today is a good day to die......but the day is not yet over!"
Magnanimous wrote:Hi guys (my first post). My question is if the Cybertonians are all autobots and the Allspark created life on Cybertron, why is it that on Earth the Allspark only seems to create Decepticons?

I apologize if this has been discussed before.


There was at least 1 Autobot......the SUV that came to life had a Autobot symble on its steering wheel althou he wasnt acting much like a Autobot.But maybe its like a baby being born.......with all the crying.

Magnanimous wrote:Or....just completetly ignore me.


Sorry but someone has been diverting everyone's attention.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds

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Postby Leonardo » Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:52 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Magnanimous wrote:Or....just completetly ignore me.


Sorry but someone has been diverting everyone's attention.


I'll get you yet, Traffic Warden.

For the broken record: I wasn't asking a question specifically because, as AK suggests, I'm aware of most continuities but I can see how Tramp thought I might have been given my use of the word "may". That's my fault there, chaps. Apologies.
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Postby Alex Kingdom » Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:38 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Damolisher wrote:AK, dude, don't bother. If Tramp reads something one way, and interprets it, he's right, and everyone else is wrong. You can even bring up a quote that shows he's wrong, and he'll still argue with you. He has a morbid phobia of being wrong.


You notice that too???????What I cant figure out is why????Why he has to be right all the time?????The closest he ever came to admitting he was wrong was to put a edit into a post. :-?


It appears his new tactic on being proved wrong is he stops posting and hopes it'll all blow over. Anyway like I said he misinterpreted Leos post, how one can mistake the word 'may' as someone specifically asking a question is anyone guess but I guess his mind just word differently to ours. :P

Anyway I don’t want to get accused of baiting so lets get back to the topic at hand. I assume the Allspark gives life to mechanical objects and that life forms demeanour is rather random, some are good, some are bad, some are down right stupid.

Yours AK
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Postby Magnanimous » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:52 am

Thanks for the replies guys. The theories make sense (I suppose)..as much sense as could be expected from a film where a tractor trailer turns into a 30 foot robot anyway.

Sto-vo-kor..I'm probablly be wrong but I think you're confusing the Cadillac logo with the Autobot insignia in that particular scene.

I also apologize for the "ignore me" remark...it's rude but it ususally gets a response. :P

Thanks.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:48 pm

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Magnanimous wrote:
Sto-vo-kor..I'm probablly be wrong but I think you're confusing the Cadillac logo with the Autobot insignia in that particular scene.



I checked out my bootleg copy to see if you were right but it wasnt clear enough to tell so we'll have to save this debate till the DVD is released.
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Postby Tramp » Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:16 pm

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Magnanimous wrote:Hi guys (my first post). My question is if the Cybertonians are all autobots and the Allspark created life on Cybertron, why is it that on Earth the Allspark only seems to create Decepticons?

I apologize if this has been discussed before.


Welcome Magnanimous! :) Glad you chose your first post here.

Sorry, didn't notice your post earlier.

The new Movie seems to suggests all Cybertronians are originally Autobots. They refer to Autobots not as a faction name, but a descriptive "autonomous robots" abbreviation. Kinda wierd.
Anyway, some of them, inexplicably turned into the menacing Decepticons. No explanation on the Decepticons name.
Allspark created Cybertronian life.
There's no official explanation yet on why Allspark seems to create evil lifeforms on Earth.
One of the theories discussed in the forums here, suggest, some sort of "rude awakening" to explain their hostile behavior. Not evil per se.
Other theories, suggest some sort of "reverse engineering" mentioned in the movie, about how all Earth machines were product of human study of frozen Megatron. And that all machines somehow inherited the evilness of Megatron.
Which is which is up to you.
Unless Dreamworks finally gives a solid explanation in the sequel.

Roberty Orci gave an explaination in the Q&A forum of the official movie mesage boards. He said it was because the Allspark was never intended to be used directly on inanimate machines. Instead, it was meant to give life to the planet itself, thad through that, bring forth life. By using the Allspark directly on machines, it creates mindless monsters.
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Postby Autobot City » Fri Sep 28, 2007 1:10 am

Cyber Bishop wrote:Alright Tramp... This "I'm always right" and wanting to argue your point over and over attitude has finally gotten to myself and the staff..

You just bought yourself a 3 day.
The email explaining the details of the suspension will be there shortly.


Thats a rather odd thing to do.

I read both Tramp and Demolisher, and while Tramp tended to use fairly reasoned arguments, Demolisher pretty much did nothing but name calling and rolling out the 'I'm right and your an idiot card'

And yet you ban Tramp?

Interesting. I realise he probably had a prior history of being argumentative, But Demolisher was clearly egging him on. It looks suspiciously like you're encouraging Demolishers attitude of name calling and schoolyard abuse.

But meh, you're the mod.
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