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Beast Machines "Prometheus Unbound"

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Beast Machines "Prometheus Unbound"

Postby Saber Prime » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:17 am

One of the episodes of Beast Machines was titled "Prometheus Unbound", a title whitch frankly I don't understand.

Time to show my Theater Geekieness...

Prometheus Unbound was originally the name of a play that was wrighten about the Titan Prometheus (as if that wasn't painfully obvious) who stole fire from the Gods and gave it to man. He was punished by Zeus and sentenced to spend eternity chained to rock while a voltcher came to eat his liver every day. Being an immortal his liver simply grows back every time but that doesn't mean he can't feel pain. He would later be freed by Zeus' half mortal son and some how... he knew this, apperently Prometheus was allso a Psychic.

Anyway Prometheus Unbound was a rewright of Prometheus Bound. I can't remember for sure who wrote it but sence I can't understand Bound I'm going to say Shakespear.

At any rate the reason I bring this up is because I studied both plays in high school and happen to discover that I still had the script for "Prometheus Unbound" and I'm absolutly shocked.

Anyway how did the Beast Machines episode end up with the title? It has absolutly nothing to do with anything even remotly simular to the Titan's story. http://www.bwtf.com/bm/tvshow/episodes/seasontwo/pu/
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Re: Beast Machines "Prometheus Unbound"

Postby Justicity » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:30 am

Possibly to show a similarity between Prometheus & Noble/Savage, I can see some similarities.
Possibly because in this episode Megatron becomes "unbound".
Maybe because Megatron just keeps coming back, like Prometheus's liver... :P
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Re: Beast Machines "Prometheus Unbound"

Postby Auto Bot » Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:08 am

Now that you mentioned it, Megatron did somehow look like a liver! :shock:
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Re: Beast Machines "Prometheus Unbound"

Postby Insurgent » Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:49 pm

Perhaps it's because Promethius was in eternal torment while his liver kept getting eaten. Eventually, he was freed from that by the kindness of another.

Megatron is in eternal torment. He dispises organics in transformers, but he is a purely organic transformer. Surely there cannot be a worse torment for him. By the end of the episode, he is also freed from his dispair by the kindness of another (Nightscream getting him into the Citadel).

Definate similarities if you ask me.
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Re: Beast Machines "Prometheus Unbound"

Postby Justicity » Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:34 pm

Insurgent wrote:Perhaps it's because Promethius was in eternal torment while his liver kept getting eaten. Eventually, he was freed from that by the kindness of another.

Megatron is in eternal torment. He dispises organics in transformers, but he is a purely organic transformer. Surely there cannot be a worse torment for him. By the end of the episode, he is also freed from his dispair by the kindness of another (Nightscream getting him into the Citadel).

Definate similarities if you ask me.

That be the words me was trying to make...
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Sorry, I couldn't articulate my words into anything understandable earlier today, so I decided to go for funny rather than answer, but this Is similar to what I would have written...
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Re: Beast Machines "Prometheus Unbound"

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:17 am

Motto: "Today is a good day to die......but the day is not yet over!"
Saber Prime wrote:
Time to show my Theater Geekieness...


OOOOOOOOO Goody :grin:

Saber Prime wrote:Anyway Prometheus Unbound was a rewright of Prometheus Bound.


Not really a re-wright but part of a trilogy.....or so it is believed.Prometheus Bound is an Ancient Greek tragedy. Evidence suggests that Prometheus Bound was the first play in a trilogy conventionally called the Prometheia, but the other two plays, Prometheus Unbound and Prometheus the Fire-Bringer, survive only in fragments.

Saber Prime wrote:I can't remember for sure who wrote it but sence I can't understand Bound I'm going to say Shakespear.


Definetly not Shakespear.....There is evidence that the Prometheus trilogy was written as far back as 415 BC.

Saber Prime wrote:Anyway how did the Beast Machines episode end up with the title? It has absolutly nothing to do with anything even remotly simular to the Titan's story. http://www.bwtf.com/bm/tvshow/episodes/seasontwo/pu/


I see a few simular aspects between the episode of Beast Machines and the original play.

I see Megatron being traped inside of Noble as being very simular to Prometheus being traped in Tartarus.

I see Megatron's being traped in the very form of a organic life form as a ever lasting tortue much like the eagle that had been torturing Prometheus by eating his regenerating liver every day.

And I see Nightscream in the role of Heracles who frees Prometheus from his chains and kills the eagle.
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Re: Beast Machines "Prometheus Unbound"

Postby Saber Prime » Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:21 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Not really a re-wright but part of a trilogy.....or so it is believed.Prometheus Bound is an Ancient Greek tragedy. Evidence suggests that Prometheus Bound was the first play in a trilogy conventionally called the Prometheia, but the other two plays, Prometheus Unbound and Prometheus the Fire-Bringer, survive only in fragments.
I think you're partly right. There was a Trilligy but out of the originally Trilligy only Bound survived in whole. The rest as you say are only fragments.

Unbound was not wrighten by the same playwright who wrote the original Trilligy. That's easilly appearnt in the wrighting styal. The original play (allthough it may not actully be wrighten by him) was verry "Shaksperian" while Unbound was wrighten in a more modern day English styal.

Unbound allso tells the same story as Bound. Normally a second part in a Trilligy would continue where the last story left off not tell the same story again.

All evidence points to Unbound being another wrighter's interpritation of Bound, a rewright, not a continuation in the Trilligy.
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Re: Beast Machines "Prometheus Unbound"

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:39 am

Motto: "Today is a good day to die......but the day is not yet over!"
First I'm glad to see you back.And let me also warn you that I'm a total history nut when it conserns the god's of myth.....now on to the topic at hand.


Saber Prime wrote: I think you're partly right. There was a Trilligy but out of the originally Trilligy only Bound survived in whole. The rest as you say are only fragments.

Unbound was not wrighten by the same playwright who wrote the original Trilligy. That's easilly appearnt in the wrighting styal. The original play (allthough it may not actully be wrighten by him) was verry "Shaksperian" while Unbound was wrighten in a more modern day English styal.

Unbound allso tells the same story as Bound. Normally a second part in a Trilligy would continue where the last story left off not tell the same story again.

All evidence points to Unbound being another wrighter's interpritation of Bound, a rewright, not a continuation in the Trilligy.


First I'm glad to see you back.And let me also warn you that I'm a total history nut when it conserns the god's of myth.....now on to the topic at hand.


You misunderstood me.I wasnt trying to suggest that all 3 plays were written by the same playwright just that "Unbound" is not really a re-write of "Bound".The complete "Unbound" go's further in the story then the first play and the reasons it is belieaved that "Unbound" contains much of the same writtings from "Bound" is because since it only survived in fragments, portions of the first part were inclued to fill in the gap's by those that retolded, rewrote and translated it from the original language.

As for your claim that "Unbound" was wrighten in a more modern day English style..........thats because you think your reading the original play.

What you have read is a mixed version of The second Prometheus Unbound published in 1820 and was written by Percy Bysshi Shelley and the original and first Prometheus Unbound that has been attributed to the 5th-century BC Greek tragedian Aeschylus.

There are a few sutlle differences between Shelley's re-wright and the original.....for exsample Shelley's story use's the name Jupiter [Zeus's Roman counterpart] and there's no reconciliation between the character's of Prometheus Jupiter [Zeus] like in the original play.

And the plays have been retold and rewritten by at least a dozen other Greek and Roman authors that would further embellish the Prometheus myth. The most significant detail added to the myth are found in the works of Aesop, Apollodorus, Hyginus, Ovid, Plato, Sappho and Quintus of Smyrna.

As for just "who" really wrote the original play's........it's a hot debate.

The Great Library of Alexandria has the playwrite "Aeschylus" as the auther of all 3 but there are plenty of however, several scholars that doubt Aeschylus' authorship of the drama.

These doub stem the form his portraial of the character of Zeus. The problem is how could the playwright who demonstrated such a reverence toward Zeus in his other works like "The Suppliants" and "Agamemnon" be the same playwright who, in Prometheus Bound,portray's Zeus as a violent tyrant and condems him for it.

such as Hyginus, Apollodorus, and Quintus of Smyrna
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