The Energon Pub

[Scaleface]

I want to keep a running list of corrections that should be made to the IDW Beast Wars Sourcebook series. Add yours to this thread and I'll add them to the first post.

Issue 1 cover - Magmatron isn't in this book.
Issue 2 cover - Torca isn't in this book

Antagony - She isn't a "fire" ant.

Autocrusher - Misnamed AutoCRASHER.

BB - Miscolored. Should probably be called a "Triple Changer".

Big Convoy - No weapons mode picture.

Blackarachnia - incorrect coloring, missing her first body's art.

Cheetor - No TM2 pictures.

Coelagon - No weapon mode mentioned or picture (The Seacon Pirates had weapons modes right?)

Cybershark - uses TM2 robot mode, but original shark mode. Missing other modes.

Depth Charge - No third mode picture. Should be a "Triple Changer".

Dinobot II - Doesn't mention his ability to paralyze.

Doublepunch - Not in alphabetical order, he should be before Drillbit.

Elephadora - He's not an "elephant". Described as lacking intelligence, which is odd for someone with a 9 Intelligence on his tech spec.

Fractyl - Seemed to ignore his existing function and motto.

Gigastorm - missing art of the Gigascouter. Should probably be called a "Triple Changer"

Gimlet - The pictures are miscolored to the US release of the mold, Seaclamp.

Ironhide - No weaknesses, how about being SLOW, as he's described in his bio. Might want to mention his "blunt force battle clubs" from Magnaboss' tech specs.

K-9 - German Shepard, where on Prehistoric Earth did they scan a German Shepard?

Lasorbeak - A 30 feet wingspan? That's a big as Optimus Prime is tall. A little odd for a basic, where it's established that Rattrap stands 5 feet tall.

Magmatron - The species of animals he turns into are known to be a Giganotosaurus, Elasmosaurus and a Quetzalcoatlus.

Megatron - We get a full page spread of a form he never had, but we are missing his TM and TM2 forms pictures.

Magnaboss II - They colored him to match the original US Magnaboss exactly, but the Japanese version of the toy has a red face.

Motorarm - They colored it incorrectly, to match the US release Ram Horn.

[Galvatronus]

Blackarachnia - incorrect coloring, missing his first body's art.

Correcting the "corrections". Blackarachnia is a she.

[Scaleface]

Thanks. I added a bunch more. Look them over and add anything you like.

[Darth Bombshell]

BB - Miscolored, no tank mode.

The tank mode is there.

Elephadora - He's not an "elephant". Described as lacking intelligence, which is odd for someone with a 9 Intelligence on his tech spec.

Gigastorm - missing art of the Gigascouter.

Which is odd, considering that the preview pages did show it.

[Foallen]

K-9 - German Shepard, where on Prehistoric Earth did they scan a German Shepard?

What I noticed about K-9 is he has robotic parts on the underside of his beast mode. If you look at the characters from the show and most in the book, they are completely organic in the beast modes.

Overall this series could have been done so well, and I'm disappointed in both books. They should have spent more pages on major characters (like Megatron to show all his forms) and left out some of the Japanese stuff that is basically the same figure with a different story, especially when they're on two pages in a row (Magnaboss/Magnaboss2, Manterror/Mantis). I also found some of the write ups feel boring. Just my opinion.

[skyshadowprimus]

Gigastorm - missing art of the Gigascouter.

Which is odd, considering that the preview pages did show it.

I thought i was going mad when i read the book, put it down ti being tired and imaging it....You're right..damn those previews

[Coptur]

I want to keep a running list of corrections that should be made to the IDW Beast Wars Sourcebook series. Add yours to this thread and I'll add them to the first post.

Issue 1 cover - Magmatron isn't in this book.
Issue 2 cover - Torca isn't in this book

Antagony - She isn't a "fire" ant.

BB - Miscolored. Should probably be called a "Triple Changer".

Blackarachnia - incorrect coloring, missing her first body's art.

Cybershark - uses TM2 robot mode, but original shark mode. Missing other modes.

Elephadora - He's not an "elephant". Described as lacking intelligence, which is odd for someone with a 9 Intelligence on his tech spec.

Fractyl - Seemed to ignore his existing function and motto.

Gigastorm - missing art of the Gigascouter. Should probably be called a "Triple Changer"

Ironhide - No weaknesses, how about being SLOW, as he's described in his bio. Might want to mention his "blunt force battle clubs" from Magnaboss' tech specs.

K-9 - German Shepard, where on Prehistoric Earth did they scan a German Shepard?

Lasorbeak - A 30 feet wingspan? That's a big as Optimus Prime is tall. A little odd for a basic, where it's established that Rattrap stands 5 feet tall.

Magmatron - The species of animals he turns into are known to be a Giganotosaurus, Elasmosaurus and a Quetzalcoatlus.

Megatron - We get a full page spread of a form he never had, but we are missing his TM and TM2 forms pictures.

grrrrrrrrrr my original post was lost

[Coptur]

I'm not to bothered with Fractyl as the botcon bio/characters are NOT considered bw canon. so a different write up isn't an issue.

Elephorca in the bwneo series (those that have watched it like me) was infact the leader/commander of the Blendtrons so yes i agree he shouldn't be considered 'unintelligent'.

Lazorbeak wingspan is fine and most flight creatures need to have wings much bigger than the body inorder to fly and toy size shouldn't become a factor in a comic i would of thought g1 would've taught this.

IS THIS GONNA BE FORWARDED TO IDW!?!

Book two mistakes i found

Gimlet has Sea Clamps picture (eg wrong colour and far too menancing to look at for a jointron)

Grimlocks picture is horrid

Icebird as with all mutants do have a robotmode 'face' so where is the picture!?

Magnaboss 2 is meant to have a slightly different colouring scheme

Motorarm has Ramhorns art work (eg wrong colour and far too menancing to look at for a jointron)

all of the Insectrons should of been drawn the way they are in BW2nd.

Majin Zarak is missing from the book

another for book 1

Autocrasher should infact be called AUTOCRUSHER

[Scaleface]

I'm not to bothered with Fractyl as the botcon bio/characters are NOT considered bw canon. so a different write up isn't an issue.

Since when? It's his official tech spec. They may rewite his origin ignoring 3H Publishing stories, but they also ignored his tech spec.

Lazorbeak wingspan is fine and most flight creatures need to have wings much bigger than the body inorder to fly and toy size shouldn't become a factor in a comic i would of thought g1 would've taught this.

Thing is officially that mold (Lazorbeak, Hydra, Fractyl and Terrorsaur) stands 8.9 feet tall according to the Beast Wars Neo show notes. The beast mode wingspan is no bigger than his height in robot mode. They trippled his size at least with a 30 feet wingspan.

[Coptur]

I'm not to bothered with Fractyl as the botcon bio/characters are NOT considered bw canon. so a different write up isn't an issue.

Since when? It's his official tech spec. They may rewite his origin ignoring 3H Publishing stories, but they also ignored his tech spec.

On g1 starscreams tech spec it say he's weaker(strength 7) than skywarp(strength 9). sadly tech specs can be ignored and redone to how writers want a character portrayed. that is now the case for Fractyl in the idw/cartoon bw universe.

i understand your point for Lazorbeak, but it might be best to look at it, as an over sight. Remember Hydra was in Neo not Lazorbeak and to separate the two similar characters, maybe just maybe Lazorbeak in beast mode has a longer wingspan.

i usually take small inconsistencies like wingspan length with a pinch of salt. like with most comics, characters are alway schanging height and length for instance the juggernaut is never 6'10 but is original datafile has always said this. artist do what they like.

and i'm sure if they ever have a panel with Terrorsaur(original body), Fractyl, Hydra and Lazorbeak they would all be the same height and length etc...

[Scaleface]

I'm not to bothered with
On g1 starscreams tech spec it say he's weaker(strength 7) than skywarp(strength 9). sadly tech specs can be ignored and redone to how writers want a character portrayed. that is now the case for Fractyl in the idw/cartoon bw universe.

The numbers for Starscream and Skywarp's tech specs were swapped as a printing error, which was confirmed by Bob Budinsky, the guy who wrote them.

As for Fractyl though, this is rewriting an existing spec, not just adding to it, which isn't what a lot of fans were looking for in this sourcebook. Add to this the fact that Fractyl hasn't even appeared in the IDW comics AT ALL, and it makes these changes seem a bit pointless.

Additionally, the IDW comics are no more or less legitimate than the 3H comics as fas as being "official" or part of the animated series. I just don't like the idea of throwing out a tech spec for a new one just to be different. I'd rather they just added more detail to them and added stuff, but don't REMOVE it.

[Coptur]

I'm not to bothered with
On g1 starscreams tech spec it say he's weaker(strength 7) than skywarp(strength 9). sadly tech specs can be ignored and redone to how writers want a character portrayed. that is now the case for Fractyl in the idw/cartoon bw universe.

The numbers for Starscream and Skywarp's tech specs were swapped as a printing error, which was confirmed by Bob Budinsky, the guy who wrote them.

As for Fractyl though, this is rewriting an existing spec, not just adding to it, which isn't what a lot of fans were looking for in this sourcebook. Add to this the fact that Fractyl hasn't even appeared in the IDW comics AT ALL, and it makes these changes seem a bit pointless.

Additionally, the IDW comics are no more or less legitimate than the 3H comics as fas as being "official" or part of the animated series. I just don't like the idea of throwing out a tech spec for a new one just to be different. I'd rather they just added more detail to them and added stuff, but don't REMOVE it.

i know its a shame nearly all the characters original bios are now disregarded but hey it might not be all bad. i guess as fans we have to watch this space.

you might find that you like the 'new' fractyl!?!?

i try not be so negative anymore and take each comic as it comes whether i agree with it or not.

i am glad they didn't screw with galvatron

[Sarri]

Just imagine, a few years down, those guide involved in an "Ulimate Guide is always right" discussion.

[Damolisher]

Hmmm, that sounds familiar....

[AxiomScion]

but according to the BW ultimate source guide Terrorsaur (original body), Fractyl, Hydra and Lazorbeak are all the same size as the G1 seekers. It retcons the BW Neo and the Canadian CG show.

i was tempted to rabid punch myself

[Scaleface]

I was looking at the various pictures in Sourcebook #2 today and noticed they miscolored Lio Junior too. He has a blue head in Beast Wars Second, but they colored him identical to Prowl in the US. I hope they fix all these miscolors in the collected edition.

[Damolisher]

I also notice that in the books, Furman can't make up his mind whether hes talking about that character in the past or present tense. Like I thought the books would be set as if they were in present day going by some profiles. For example, Dinobot's, I believe under abilities, it says "Dinobot has..." whatever, and in weaknesses "Dinobot had..." Whatever weaknesses.

[Scaleface]

Was that just for the dead characters? I know he did Galvatron in the past tense. Dinobot too?

[Damolisher]

Yeah, I think so. He did a few in the past tense, but some in the present tense, which didn't really make sense.

[Darth Bombshell]

I just noticed this today, but apparently Megastorm's tank mode is a "beast" mode.

And wasn't it "Galvatron" who exposed some of the Predacons to the Anglomis and not Gigatron?

[Coptur]

I just noticed this today, but apparently Megastorm's tank mode is a "beast" mode.

And wasn't it "Galvatron" who exposed some of the Predacons to the Anglomis and not Gigatron?

nope Starscream and bb fell into anglomis because gigastorm shot the ground from under them. thrust and dirge chose to be upgraded following a string of defeats

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Gigastorm - missing art of the Gigascouter. Should probably be called a "Triple Changer"

An other mistake on Gigastorm.The header of his page states he's a Predacon and theres no sub-group listed but if you read his bio it say's that he took command of a "sub-fraction" of the DESTRON forces.

So far there has been no other mention or members of the Destron army.

[waaaaghlord]

Coelagon - No weapon mode mentioned or picture (The Seacon Pirates had weapons modes right?)

I take it that's one of the G1 Seacon recolours (from Neo?). Not sure if they ever officially had weapon modes although the toys should still have been able to transform into them. With only five members to the team rather than the original six though the gestalt would have had to sacrifice a limb in order to fire.

[Down_Shift]

As someone who isn't a fan of beast wars to begin with, I was hoping that these would make me see them in a new light. I'm still waiting to see some light.

The art is, for the most part, awful and the descriptions are poor to boot. The end of Gigastorms strengths segment couldn't have been more poorly proof read if a blind person had done it. This, and the dreadful art from the TF/Avengers cross over has me really doubting IDW in the future.

[waaaaghlord]

Please don't hold the Man and Machine artwork against IDW. The thing being made in the first place sure, but the art's really nothing to do with them. It's a Marvel book with the art being handled by Top Cow for some reason. About the only reason that the book exists at all is for cross promotion purposes to get some more 'super hero' comic buyers picking up TF titles.