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Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:At first, I thought you were being tongue-in-cheek like always, then I read the final analysis.![]()
Yes, this episode wasn't great. Yes, it was a slow start. Yes, I too was disappointed with it when I first saw it. But, before all the Prime fans get on you for this review, I do want to point out that I'm glad that you do see potential in it for later episodes to pick up on, and they sure do. Of the 23 episodes that have aired, episodes 12, 13, 14, 17, 19, 20, 22, and 23 are exceptionally good.![]()
Though, two things.
* These "Decepticlones", as you call them, do have a name.![]()
* Cliff didn't have just three minutes of character, but also 96 pages in the prequel comic that came out a little before episode 1 aired.
Diem wrote:The Decepticlones get the name Terrorcons as soon as five of them merge to form Abominus. Until then they're named after the PS2 Armada game.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Diem wrote:The Decepticlones get the name Terrorcons as soon as five of them merge to form Abominus. Until then they're named after the PS2 Armada game.
They won't...because they aren't called Terrorcons, they're called Eradicons. Something officially called "Terrorcons" do appear, but they're never called that in the show, and they're given a much more apt name instead.
As for Cliffjumper, he's brought up several times in future episodes.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
From now on I'm gonna call them Junkions just to annoy youSabrblade wrote:VEHICONS! That's what the show's staff calls the drones. Not Eradicons. Vehicons.![]()
I'm sorry if I sound like I'm coming on too strongly on this, but I just get irked when I hear the term "Eradicon" being used over "Vehicon", as it continues to remind me of how I also used that name by mistake not knowing of the Vehicon term. I don't want anyone to have to make the same mistakes that I made.
Diem wrote:From now on I'm gonna call them Junkions just to annoy youSabrblade wrote:VEHICONS! That's what the show's staff calls the drones. Not Eradicons. Vehicons.![]()
I'm sorry if I sound like I'm coming on too strongly on this, but I just get irked when I hear the term "Eradicon" being used over "Vehicon", as it continues to remind me of how I also used that name by mistake not knowing of the Vehicon term. I don't want anyone to have to make the same mistakes that I made.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
I certainly hope that they are shelfwarmers, cuz I wanna buy as many as possible.Diem wrote:We start with Starscream and his shelfwarmer army
You know, I never thought about June like that. I think you might be right in that we haven't seen her kind of character in a TF series before. It's these elements of uniqueness and originality that I find the most interesting in this show. Though, countless times I have tried to explain to some people that not all "homages" are the same as "ripoffs". If you could continue to point out more of these elements that are unique to this show first and aren't taken from a past series, it would be greatly appreciated.Diem wrote:More pertinently, Jack's mother is the only thing in this episode that I haven't seen before somewhere. There's a fine line between the type of "aligned" continuity that the writers are trying to create and a hodge-podge of unoriginality and the show keeps swinging wildly. The parts that are meant to be grabbing my attention like the Dark Energon plot and zombies are exactly the parts that are making me yawn while the understated, throwaway moments are what made me give this show another chance.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:VEHICONS! That's what the show's staff calls the drones. Not Eradicons. Vehicons.![]()
Diem wrote:the Blood of Unicron (Who?)
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Diem wrote:the Blood of Unicron (Who?)
I guess that does add a little magic to the mystery. But there are those who may not be veteran fans but could have still learned of these from playing WFC and reading the novel.Diem wrote:Shadowman wrote:Diem wrote:the Blood of Unicron (Who?)
You know, Unicron? Turns into a planet, eats other planets. Basically the TF equivalent of the devil? he's kind of a big deal. How do you not know Unicron?
Given that the series tells us, amongst other things, what Cybertron and Energon are I assume we're not "supposed" to know these things as viewers. We even get told who Optimus Prime is, in case we hadn't seen him shelfwarming lately. Yet Unicron gets name checked and there's no explanation beyond "Unicron the Destroyer".
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I guess that does add a little magic to the mystery. But there are those who may not be veteran fans but could have still learned of these from playing WFC and reading the novel.Diem wrote:Shadowman wrote:Diem wrote:the Blood of Unicron (Who?)
You know, Unicron? Turns into a planet, eats other planets. Basically the TF equivalent of the devil? he's kind of a big deal. How do you not know Unicron?
Given that the series tells us, amongst other things, what Cybertron and Energon are I assume we're not "supposed" to know these things as viewers. We even get told who Optimus Prime is, in case we hadn't seen him shelfwarming lately. Yet Unicron gets name checked and there's no explanation beyond "Unicron the Destroyer".
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
None of the current cast of characters were around when Unicron first appeared. They have only ever heard of him, rather than having seen or met him. You are correct to think of him like a figure of folklore.SJ21 wrote:I get the feeling that Unicron, in this series, is one of those things that the current cast has only ever heard of. Kind of like Unicron is part of Cybertronian folklore. I have seen the first episodes in a while, did any of the TF's mention that they were around when Unicron did his thing?
I don't even remember that they said what Unicron actually did. People that are new to the fandom might be entirely clueless about Unicron.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Diem wrote:But at this point...it's a chore to watch.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Diem wrote:But at this point...it's a chore to watch.
You had me, for the most part, up until this line.
Here's the thing, if you ever want to stop watching and reviewing a series you find difficult to watch, it's okay, we've got you covered, and we've also covered the entire first season. So the old saying comes into play here: Don't like, don't watch.
I can't wait for you to get to 12. That's when this show finally grows its beard.Diem wrote:Shadowman wrote:Diem wrote:But at this point...it's a chore to watch.
You had me, for the most part, up until this line.
Here's the thing, if you ever want to stop watching and reviewing a series you find difficult to watch, it's okay, we've got you covered, and we've also covered the entire first season. So the old saying comes into play here: Don't like, don't watch.
But what's the fun in bashing something I do like? I have to at least get to the Wheeljack episode, I can't wait to get my teeth into that one.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I can't wait for you to get to 12. That's when this show finally grows its beard.Diem wrote:Shadowman wrote:Diem wrote:But at this point...it's a chore to watch.
You had me, for the most part, up until this line.
Here's the thing, if you ever want to stop watching and reviewing a series you find difficult to watch, it's okay, we've got you covered, and we've also covered the entire first season. So the old saying comes into play here: Don't like, don't watch.
But what's the fun in bashing something I do like? I have to at least get to the Wheeljack episode, I can't wait to get my teeth into that one.![]()
Until then, however, these first 11 episodes are... subpar, compared to 12 and beyond.
Yeah, though compared to the second half of the show, "average" looks kinda like "subpar".Diem wrote:There's a couple of episodes that I like even before then. It's mainly just this first five-parter and a few stinkers that are really bad and everything else is at least average.
Except for when it's Starscream going on about it. I got some genuine amusement out of him in "Shadowzone" (especially after seeing the live script reading of it at botCon this year).Diem wrote:Once they stop going on about how DAAAAARK ENERRRRGON is so super important the series picks up, I think.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, though compared to the second half of the show, "average" looks kinda like "subpar".Diem wrote:There's a couple of episodes that I like even before then. It's mainly just this first five-parter and a few stinkers that are really bad and everything else is at least average.Except for when it's Starscream going on about it. I got some genuine amusement out of him in "Shadowzone" (especially after seeing the live script reading of it at botCon this year).Diem wrote:Once they stop going on about how DAAAAARK ENERRRRGON is so super important the series picks up, I think.![]()
Though, I don't think the finale handled DE too badly. My main problem with it comes from another reason.
Oh, sorry. Didn't know you hadn't seen them yet.Diem wrote:I'm avoiding watching the final few episodes until I get to them on this list (hahaha, not gonna happen) so that I can riff them fresh as it were.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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