Anyway, Lastjustice..you're arrogance is getting a bit much, bordering on insulting.
If it comes across as me acting like I'm superior to you, that's merely your own mind filling in blanks I didn't heh.
Thats the point in a message board displaying FACTS FACTS and more FACTS. Difference in opinion makes these boards an interesting place, however, no-one's gonna roll over and die for you, and I expect a vice-versa from you. Bringing Superman and infinite Crisis into it...your just burying yourself(and us) in unrelated, off-topic clutter.
Sorry DeadMetal and I are both much more versed world of comics than yourself, and may be some other posters actually found that whole thing informative. He actually knew enough drive a decent point home, just wasn't one I agreed with.
You simply wish to worship something with no opposing view, that never happens with me around as I always crash fanboys parties and offer another point of view. I hate when people distort things by overrating it.
I can fire back no way you re wrong all day too, but I prefer have much more meaningful posts than that. Even if someone doesn't agree with me they atleast can see my train of thought and see how I arrived at my location. I find that to be much more worthwhile than comparing transformers to faiths. I'd much rather watch someone bash something I love with some insight to how it works(I watched a video on youtube about a guy going I hate transformers, and actually learned something from him in the process,that the DVDs altered scenes from the original version of G1 that aired, even if I didn't agree with his ultimate sentiment. ) than watch people drone on about everything they like with no insight at all.
Actually the makers of WFC consider it to be BASED on the G1 universe, too:
Well there we have it, Generation 1 aint dead...FACT!
Reread with the highlighted word. Based does not= is. Based = remake in same way a movie based off a book is.
When i sit down and play that game, that's how I'm viewing it. I don't care what loophole states that it aint, they've made that game for us G1 lovers, and the rest of the world is gonna love it too.
This singlehandedly is the grandest of all the delusions you posted right here. This game was never made purely for G1 fans or them in mind. It was made because transformers has shown be profitable enough(thanks to the new films which a bunch in this thread seems hate.) to warrant making a videogame around that isn't just a quickly made tie in.
There's G1 based videogames that horribly suck(the AVGN reviews them
http://screwattack.com/videos/AVGN-Transformers-1 NSFW of course.) not as if being G1 automatically makes the world love it. It's the attention of it being a well made game that will decide if fans will enjoy it around.
I mean both movie games had G1 skins(RoTF had a bunch of them with the DLC.), that didn't make people love or hate it alone. I found them to be fun enough games, but they were ultimately on the shallow end as far as video games go. RoTF showed promise(the Xbox 360 and Ps3 versions, not the Wii/Ps2 version.) use the transformation feature much more seemlessly as part of the combat, not just something you're forced to do when you re in a hurry, as felt like a true transformers game not just a action game with racing components in it. If given more time and effort a solid transformers videogame could be made, now we re seeing a company finally get the chance to do just that. If it's a great game, and was reskinned to look closer to movie versions, that would take nothing away from that. It was simply an artistic choice the dev team made. Not the sole reason it will be good or bad. Graphics and artistic design are never reason games are truly great. There's plenty of 8 bit games I go back and play that held up better than much of the 32/64 bit era did.
That's where you fail to understand, G1 might been the inspiration, but it's always been the skeleton for the story they've followed. The new movies have tons of homages to G1 , and have all same basic elements present. In the end it's always about Autobots and Decepticons beating slag out of each other. If the movie bots had the exact appearance of their G1 counter parts, you'd probably say it was a live action version of G1, because it reality really only thing missing. Same with Animated for that matter. I might if you were take a % how much the same between these other series and G1 are they truly. 70%, 80%, or 90%. At some point any true difference is superfical. The spirit of the story was still there at the end of the day.
But why should we invest time in something that is a carbon copy of the previous version anyways? You seem be sitting here waiting for them make the perfect G1 clone.(if you 're why do you seem wish everything be more like G1.) I'm not, I take each new addition as it's own entity and try find merits in each as it tries find it's own voice in the transformers universe. Some might be considered a failed experiment, but each new chapter brings in new ideas and stirs up different angles that haven't been covered. (the movies made me think alot more about alt modes and scale between characters. Not that I desire get bogged down with realism,as too much focus on it can be as big of a problem as totally ignoring it but I guess I barely gave it much thought prior and just accepted stuff did whatever it did.)
You wanna label anything you want as G1. It's meaningless to me as your definition is as flimsy as the ethics as an Illinois politician.(inconsistency is a massive pet peeve of mine.) Elements of it have been borrowed and refitted dozens of times since. People continue always have new takes on things.
One of the biggest changes that happens in every series since G1, Optimus Prime. Optimus Prime is never exactly how he was in G1, or ever will be. WFC even follows this much. In a hero's story, they hero needs rise up, he doesn't start off as this unstoppable force of good. Optimus Prime for most part did in G1. He was a completed character, part of the reason why they killed him, as there really wasn't anywhere else to go with him.(if Anakin Skywalker was hero he was at the end of Return of the Jedi in episode 1, it wouldn't taken him 6 movies achieve that end.) Many iconic heroes like Optimus Prime, Captain America, Superman, are literary dead ends. They are just too uber, never doubt or falter to point there's little room do anything else with them that doesn't basically crap on their character which usually outrages fans. They re often better characters to be mentors or symbols for the neophyte heroes than actual heroes of the story.
They tried give us a flawed hero whom had room to grow with Rodimus Prime. Just he came alittle too late, as they got the hero's story backwards. Yet most new versions of Optimus mirror Rodimus to a degree. (animated one of the biggest examples, which they get the Hero's story right.) Optimus isn't the top of the food chain in IDW, dreamwave, or WFC. Someone else was the guy everyone else looked to save the day, and was their invincible hero(Sentinel Prime or Zeta Prime)...till he fell leaving Optimus with the cause of keeping hope alive.
Movie Prime is closer to G1 Prime than probably most of the previous versions.(which you could argue the hero's story is about Sam than Prime.) He still has his doubts, and he's still far more fallible than G1 Prime. We will never see a new series give us a brand spanking new G1 Prime unless he's not the main hero of the series.
Megatron I'd say probably only improved between each version. His original version was a goof, as he wasn't a very good leader. Given the Saturday morning cartoon logic he had be a screw up. Even in the G1 comics he's basically crapped on by Shockwave, Unicron and his future self Galvatron(or whoever else you wanna name.). He spent entirely too much time being other people's doormat, or punching bag to show how cool they were when they showed up. There always seem be a bigger better bad guy than him. He was often a better anti-hero in enemy mine situations(bigger threat forces two sides join together to survive.) than he was ever a villain.(Megatron for big of a jerk he's usually made out to be actually is a patriot of cybertron, and means well in his own twisted way.His redemption really should be the ultimate finale for his character.) He just seems stick around because fans demanded him to not that he truly ever developed into something greater for it.
Movie Megatron hasn't remotely suffered the level of indignities. Animated might possibly be his greatest portrayal yet.(Beast wars Megatron one of the few who ever actually won.) I don't long for a second for G1 Megatron ever grace my screen even if Frank welker is voicing him. Not to mention he had one of the worst alt modes ever.As much as I love bash Galvatron, I can atleast give him that his cannon alt mode was better than Megatrons who pretty much cut his teams firepower when he used it. I don't mind stuff being a homage to his robot mode's(which Animated and the movie do greatly.) look to a degree, but his gun was pure fail. (such as this.
http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20050207.html )
For the record, G1 cartoons look woeful nowadays, the scripts, the animation,but I still think the old comics are awesome reads.
Like I said, it took a good idea, and laid the ground work for something bigger and better than wasn't to be realized in it's first run. I mean most superheroes tended to evolved greatly before they reached the sweet spots that they have in their modern eras. I see G1 as a rough draft, something that need a new draft to iron out all errors with. There's characters and themes worth revisiting, but as a whole it needed gutted and rebooted. I see everything as an expansion of the transformers universe. The greatest retelling of a hero's tale yet.
"The question that once haunted my being has been answered. The future is not fixed, and my choices are my own. And yet, how ironic...for I now find that I have no choice at all! I am a warrior...let the battle be joined." —Dinobot
...I think you've mis-understood me, that entire post you're referring to was aimed toward LastJustice and him only...i stated that at the start of it.
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