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Help with Revolution Transformers Questions

Postby Antarctica » Tue Aug 30, 2016 7:30 pm

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Hello fellow Hasbro comic fans.

Well GI Joe and Transformers have been great friends for decades now and since Hasbro and IDW are joining it all together in many ways I am in need of help with Transformers comic continuity history.

First, a little about me. I am Josh "Antarctica" Eggebeen and I am the Senior Editor of the YOJoe Comic book Section for over a decade now. I am the one who puts up all the summaries and write a few.

www.yojoe.com/comics

With IDW's Hasbro Comic Crossover Universe Revolution tying the IDW GI Joe continuity with the IDW Transformers G1 continuity. I will be having lots of questions and hoping to reach out to you all for some answers. So I can help get the Joe fans like me who don't have a huge Transformers knowledge.

I obviously know the main characters and seen the movies (I know they mostly suck) but never read a Transformer comic and didn't watch the cartoon to much as a kid. So my knowledge is a little limited. I need some help identifying characters.

In return, I can help answer questions about the IDW GI Joe continuity since I did write all of those summaries.

First, the comic Larry Hama writes which just hit #231 is not the same continuity that is tying in with Revolution. That continuity is called ARAH A Real American Hero.

Second, the IDW continuity disappeared last year and is making its return with the Revolution shared universe.

Third, not to many Joe fans have a very detailed knowledge of the IDW continuity.

Ok, onto the questions in the next posts.

Thanks in advance

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Re: Help with Revolution Transformers Questions

Postby Va'al » Wed Aug 31, 2016 3:27 am

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Hi Josh! :D

We'd be happy to be of help, and work with you to help us too, as Revolution is starting to hit this week with The Transformers 56.

In the current Transformers universe, which is the one used as the basis for Revolution and everything after it, GI Joe was disbanded/unfunded after a 'Cobra debacle' - most likely the Cobra Civil War from 2015. Effectively, nothing has happened with GI Joe in the Revolution continuity since the end of Fall of GI Joe, and Snake Eyes: Agent of Cobra. Hope that starts to help!


This thread has a general FAQ (needs an update soon) on the IDW comics: comics-forum-faqs-read-this-before-starting-a-new-comics-thread-t105789.php

This thread has the full chronology of TF comics so far: the-transformers-idwverse-a-chronology-t105238.php

And this thread has all the Revolution related discussion currently going on, including schedules and previews: www.seibertron.com/energonpub/idw-hasbr ... 107078.php
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Re: Help with Revolution Transformers Questions

Postby Antarctica » Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:12 am

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Thank you for those links.

One basic question it seems the Autobots and Decepticons are no longer divided by their groups and all mixed & working together.

How did that happen?

And from what I have determined from looking at interviews it seems like the entire GIJOE idw continuity has taken place after Megatron killed billions. So the GIJOE story is much shorter then the Transformers one in in continuity timeline. It seems in the Prelude that it hints through the Adventure Team reference
That some Transformers on Earth had some interacting in 1970s. If they are keeping Adventure Team still in 70s which could be changed.
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Re: Help with Revolution Transformers Questions

Postby Antarctica » Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:20 am

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http://www.idwpublishing.com/product/re ... special-1/

Also it looks like this issue which is just reprints will be key item in figuring it all out.
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Re: Help with Revolution Transformers Questions

Postby Va'al » Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:25 am

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Antarctica wrote:http://www.idwpublishing.com/product/revolution-road-revolution-100-page-special-1/

Also it looks like this issue which is just reprints will be key item in figuring it all out.


As much as it might print 'key issues', you may need more than that to make sense of the current TFverse. Summary companions have not been the strong point of IDW crossovers... however!

Antarctica wrote:One basic question it seems the Autobots and Decepticons are no longer divided by their groups and all mixed & working together.

How did that happen?


A big mess happened, with a giant creature from a place called Dead Universe threatened to destroy everything. We had glimpses of this in Infestation. Megatron sort of but not really sacrificed himself to fight against it. Then Optimus Prime had a bit of an identity crisis, as the used the Matrix to stop the thing. The Matrix split in two, one half was given to Rodimus one half to Bumblebee. Rodimus left Cybertron with a ship (the Lost Light) and a select crew of hundreds (this is the More Than Meets the Eye series).

Bumblebee stayed on Cybertron with Prowl, Starscream and newcomer Metalhawk, a non-affiliated Cybertronian who had left before the Transformers started their war millions of year prior. With Metalhawk, many other non-affiliateds return to Cybertron. More messy things happen, but essentially, Starscream is now the elected/appointed ruler of Cybertron, Megatron came back, Shockwave tried blowing up the universe, helped by Galvatron and more Dead Universe characters, Optimus and Megatron stopped them, Megatron is trialled and made to become an Autobot - this story continues in More Than Meets the Eye. More non-affiliated characters show up from Titan colonies (again, pre-war explorers), including Windblade. (Titans are now a fairly big part of all the stories.)

Galvatron convinces Soundwave to keep up the Decepticon dream in the Solar System, then tries conquering things on Earth. Optimus heads to Earth, to stop Galvatron. On Cybertron, Windblade, Starscream and other ex-colony characters establish the Council of Worlds (story in Till All Are One), Optimus forcefully annexes Earth to the Council (story in The Transformers), Soundwave joins him against treacherous Galvatron, and now an old foe from the past shows up, Sentinel Prime, and starts beheading people he does not deem worthy of his own vision, and Prowl may be up to something (as a rule, Prowl is always up to something). We are now in Titans Return, a crossover between The Transformers and More Than Meets the Eye. Till All Are One will continue the Cybertron side of the story once Revolution happens.

And from what I have determined from looking at interviews it seems like the entire GIJOE idw continuity has taken place after Megatron killed billions. So the GIJOE story is much shorter then the Transformers one in in continuity timeline. It seems in the Prelude that it hints through the Adventure Team reference
That some Transformers on Earth had some interacting in 1970s. If they are keeping Adventure Team still in 70s which could be changed.


Yes and no. The IDW GI Joe continuity did not make sense to be sharing stories with TF, because of that storyline (All Hail Megatron) in which the Decepticons almost conquer Earth, but definitely kill A LOT of humanity in the process. The question was: where were they? How are the two compatible? The preview I linked to earlier tries appeasing the missing bits.
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Re: Help with Revolution Transformers Questions

Postby Antarctica » Thu Sep 01, 2016 3:18 am

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Holy Cow!

I keep thinking of Alfred (Michael Caine) in the Dark Knight telling Batman "That some men just want to watch the world burn."

The Decepticons have been doing that.

And it seems like they are doing a little cheating by have the Joes talk about that event being bigger then the Nuke in Nanzhao.

And in the new Transformers comics are already having Joes in them, so its about to get crazy when the Micronauts and ROM show up.

Big thanks for that description. I would like to copy and paste that over to YOJoe to get the them up to speed. Is that ok? I will give you credit over here.
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Re: Help with Revolution Transformers Questions

Postby Va'al » Thu Sep 01, 2016 3:21 am

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Antarctica wrote:Holy Cow!

I keep thinking of Alfred (Michael Caine) in the Dark Knight telling Batman "That some men just want to watch the world burn."

The Decepticons have been doing that.

And it seems like they are doing a little cheating by have the Joes talk about that event being bigger then the Nuke in Nanzhao.

And in the new Transformers comics are already having Joes in them, so its about to get crazy when the Micronauts and ROM show up.

Big thanks for that description. I would like to copy and paste that over to YOJoe to get the them up to speed. Is that ok? I will give you credit over here.


Sure! :D
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Re: Help with Revolution Transformers Questions

Postby ScottyP » Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:07 pm

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I was planning on updating the FAQ here and penning a primer on Revolution this week/weekend. My only knowledge gap is Joe, looks like I've got a place to check out! I'll be in touch :D
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Re: Help with Revolution Transformers Questions

Postby Antarctica » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:24 am

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