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High school football coach charged with players death

Postby Moonlight » Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:59 am

There were several times I was very afraid for our football players. The coach would make them pratice in full gear even though it was over 100 degrees outside. I had no idea what I was going to do if it happened while Jack was playing. Thankfully he is no longer in that school so I do not have to worry about it.


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Re: High school football coach charged with players death

Postby Me, Grimlock! » Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:21 am

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At face value, I'd agree with the ruling, but that article doesn't give many details.
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Re: High school football coach charged with players death

Postby Shadowman » Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:39 am

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If they can sue a guy for that, doesn't that mean that every basic training instructor in the US is now vunerable as well? Because if you think Football training in August is bad (And since Football is a winter sport, it could be worse), you should military training in August.
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Re: High school football coach charged with players death

Postby Dr. Caelus » Sat Jan 24, 2009 2:27 pm

Shadowman wrote:If they can sue a guy for that, doesn't that mean that every basic training instructor in the US is now vunerable as well? Because if you think Football training in August is bad (And since Football is a winter sport, it could be worse), you should military training in August.


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Re: High school football coach charged with players death

Postby Me, Grimlock! » Sat Jan 24, 2009 2:57 pm

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Shadowman wrote:If they can sue a guy for that, doesn't that mean that every basic training instructor in the US is now vunerable as well? Because if you think Football training in August is bad (And since Football is a winter sport, it could be worse), you should military training in August.


I know there's probably a wealth of differences here, but I honestly can't think of one except for the minors thing Caelus mentioned and the fact that the military is probably held under a different set of rules. Image
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Re: High school football coach charged with players death

Postby Grimpoo » Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:18 pm

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Re: High school football coach charged with players death

Postby Moonlight » Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:22 pm

I found more information on it. They said it was 97 degrees outside. Jacks old school still had practice when it got to 105 degrees. I live in an area of the country that thinks football is what life is all about. I sure hope this scares the schools into some common sense.

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Re: High school football coach charged with players death

Postby Dr. Caelus » Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:40 pm

amudpiewtea wrote:I found more information on it. They said it was 97 degrees outside. Jacks old school still had practice when it got to 105 degrees. I live in an area of the country that thinks football is what life is all about. I sure hope this scares the schools into some common sense.

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I doubt it. This isn't the first time something like this has happened.

Me, Grimlock! wrote:I know there's probably a wealth of differences here, but I honestly can't think of one except for the minors thing Caelus mentioned and the fact that the military is probably held under a different set of rules. Image


I don't know how it works when a family sues the military - does that fall under a court martial or a civilian court?

Still, the minor-status should make a huge difference, since there are plenty of things you can do to an 18 year old you can't do to a 17 (or less) year old.

Plus there are differences that would actually become relevant in a hearing:

1) An adult (even a young one) is more capable of handling extreme exertion & environments than a kid.

2) An adult can be expected to know his own limits and adhere to them, even if it means incurring the wrath of the D.I. and potentially facing disciplinary action. A minor is considered 'incompetent' (for lack of a better term), and can't be expected to defy the orders of the adult authority figure who is responsible for his care and safety.

3) A drill sergeant is training his troops to survive battle in some of the most hellish places on earth - if he's soft on them, the consequences potentially include someone's death. A football coach is preparing his kids for a recreational activity - if he's soft on them, the consequences are diminished bragging rights for him.

4) Death is a risk that you are expected to be aware of when you join the military. Less so for a recreational activity like football, waivers or not. Troops die in wars, but that's not justification for someone dying in a child's game.
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