The Energon Pub

I know I have asked this before in a sense, of whether Tfs in general can eat anything besides Energon, and the answer is yes.

But what I'm asking now is, can G1 Transformers eat anything besides energon? Are they capable of it? Like for example Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, etc. Or do they always have to "drink" their meal?

The Insecticons can eat pretty much anything. If we need to put it into some kind of tangible idea, I'd have to say it would be an acceptable but extremely inefficient method of refueling. Whereas energon is the most refined form of energy a Transformer ingests, the Insecticons may not have had the ability to create it. Forcing them to generate power by breaking down matter into energy. Requiring them to consume a tremendously inconvenient amount of matter.

Of course that is all pure nonsensical speculation. =D

The Dinobots were shown to eat metallic animals namely fish during G-1

Hun-Grrr from the Terrorcons eats anything metal. Who knows what the other Terrorcons and Monsterbots eat

Overbite from the Seacons eats other things than Energon.

To add to what MYoung23 said, Skullcruncher also eats metal, including his foes. The Sharkticons also eat live prey, mostley other robotic life forms.

I would hazard to say that all Cybertronians are capable of eating solid "foods" they would have to. Energon is good for energy, but what about raw materials for their regenerative circuits ti use in order to heal damage? energy alone can't accomplish that. They need raw metal, to rebuild armor and strcuture. Silicone, copper, gold, and other conductive metals to rebuild damaged circuitry. Petrolium to or petrolium distillates to replace lost or used up lubrication and hydraulic fluids (their blood). They need all this to maintain homeostasis, just as if we don't eat the right foods, we too won't maintain proper homeostasis.

Since you said "G1", that includes the comics as much as the cartoon, and in the comics the Transformers ran on an unnamed liquid fuel. Sparkplug worked out a process to turn gasoline into the Transformers fuel, so most Autobots ran on gas after that.

Of course in the issue where the Throttlebots minds were transfered into toy cars, they ran on D-Cell batteries, if I recall.

So most G1 Tfs are able to eat metal, and oil, but would organic stuff if they ate that damage them?

Zombie Starscream wrote:So most G1 Tfs are able to eat metal, and oil, but would organic stuff if they ate that damage them?

No. Oil is organic. Remember, it's fossilized plant matter. Any organic food they ate would probably just be burned as fuel.

I know it was mentioned in the comics about oil cake, I'm assuming that the Dinobots could probably eat some various plant and organic subsances. Bots like Wheeljack though, where there's no mouth shown, I would think that they were mostly energon fueled.

Tramp wrote:

Zombie Starscream wrote:So most G1 Tfs are able to eat metal, and oil, but would organic stuff if they ate that damage them?

No. Oil is organic. Remember, it's fossilized plant matter. Any organic food they ate would probably just be burned as fuel.

Finally we agree on something.

A Trick of the Trade on Seibertron: A close ally in one thread may become a bitter enemy in another. This is doubly so in the Philosopher's Forum.

Night Striker wrote:I know it was mentioned in the comics about oil cake, I'm assuming that the Dinobots could probably eat some various plant and organic subsances. Bots like Wheeljack though, where there's no mouth shown, I would think that they were mostly energon fueled.

We may not see it, but his mouht is probably just covered by his face plate.

Shadowman wrote:

Tramp wrote:

Zombie Starscream wrote:So most G1 Tfs are able to eat metal, and oil, but would organic stuff if they ate that damage them?

No. Oil is organic. Remember, it's fossilized plant matter. Any organic food they ate would probably just be burned as fuel.

Finally we agree on something.

A Trick of the Trade on Seibertron: A close ally in one thread may become a bitter enemy in another. This is doubly so in the Philosopher's Forum.

That is why I never make a debate personal.

MTMTE: Skullcruncher's profile: For a race that doesn't need to eat anything living for sustenance, Skullcruncher's acts are particularly grisly.

Damolisher wrote:MTMTE: Skullcruncher's profile: For a race that doesn't need to eat anything living for sustenance, Skullcruncher's acts are particularly grisly.

That is correct. They don't need to eat anything living.

Yes, and living means organic tissue, as you pointed out in the other topic, meaning anything other than metal or energy. Or inanimate objects.

Damolisher wrote:Yes, and living means organic tissue, as you pointed out in the other topic, meaning anything other than metal or energy. Or inanimate objects.

No. Living does not mean "organic". It means living— having life. Organic and living are two totaly different things. Oil is organic, but still not living matter. Skullcruncher likes to eat other Transformers—other living beings. He's a cannibal just like Hungurr. Sharkticons too eat other Transformers and anything else thrown in their pit. They all eat living matter, however inorganic it is.

Raw metals, raw silicon, and other similar raw materials, are not living matter. Oil is not living matter.

Living matter does not have to be organic just as organic matter does not have to be living matter.

Don't start dictating to me crap I already know the meaning of again. Read what I said again. Anything that doesn't live= Nonliving. Duh.

Damolisher wrote::-x Don't start dictating to me crap I already know the meaning of again. Read what I said again. Anything that doesn't live= Nonliving. Duh.

I did read what you said. You tried to say that I had said elsewhere that living matter was organic, and it is not necessarily true. Don't try to put words in my mouth. Life only needs to follow seven criteria, and being organic is not part of that criteria. So let's leave it at that please. This is not a thread about life. It is about whether Transformers eat anything besides Energon. Let's keep it on that subject.

Scaleface wrote:Since you said "G1", that includes the comics as much as the cartoon, and in the comics the Transformers ran on an unnamed liquid fuel. Sparkplug worked out a process to turn gasoline into the Transformers fuel, so most Autobots ran on gas after that.

Of course in the issue where the Throttlebots minds were transfered into toy cars, they ran on D-Cell batteries, if I recall.

So you're saying that our beloved G1 is responsible for global warming!? Figures! We give them a home and look what they do to it! Just like back on cybertron....

I said nothing of the sort. I said they ran of gasoline. Any connection you wish to make on new age hippie psuedo-scientific mumbo jumbo to the Transformers in your own doing.

I always knew the Autobots really were evil. We should set greenpeace on 'em. That'd teach 'em.

Hmm.. As Tramp as said in a earlier post oil is organic. Does that mean G1 Tfs can ultimately eat other organic things like animals and even humans?

All "organic" means in chemistry is that it has carbon in it. Humans eat organic food, why would that be any different than a Transformers using organic fuel. It's not good or evil.

Toyotus Superion wrote:So you're saying that our beloved G1 is responsible for global warming!? Figures! We give them a home and look what they do to it! Just like back on cybertron....

(I laughed when I read that.)

I want to be there when the first Transformer is ticketed for emitting too much pollution.

Bonus points if that Transformer has an alt mode that's considered fuel inefficient (SUVs perhaps?).

("You've got something against my alt mode, fleshling?")

Is this board filled with liberals or something? What do you want, all the Transformers to be reformatted as Micromasters who turn into hybrids?

Maybe the board is just filled with people with a sense of humour.