The Energon Pub

[noctorro]

Do you people realize how immature this is making you sound?

"Mummy, that big meany made a robot with a helicopter on it! I didn't want a helicopter, I wanted a jet! Waaaaaaaahhh!"

Things change. They gave you the "wrong" team members because a team of 4 cars and a team of 4 jets is pretty monotonous, and most kids/parents would struggle to justify spending however much these cost on a team of essentially 4 variants of the same figure. Adding an SUV and a helicopter adds a little variety and makes it feel less like buying essentially the same toy 4 times.

Comparing Warbot Defender VS Springer and Intimidator VS CW Menasor is a false equivalency. For one thing, you're comparing a fairly basic triple changer (whose 3rd party version was made when the 3P market was still getting its bearings) and a complex Scramble City capable combiner. Furthermore, yes Intimidator looks very impressive and is a good homage to G1 Menasor, but this comes at a price: he's not only ludicrously expensive but also insanely complex. If you gave him to a kid, even a careful one who treated their toys with respect, he'd end up broken. To get a Menasor to look a lot like his G1 counterpart whilst remaining accessible by kids, he'd look horrendously ugly and simplistic. Because let's not kid ourselves here, G1 Menasor was never a particularly good looking combiner, either in the cartoon or in toy form. Intimidator can get away with it because it uses a metric **** of engineering to make it look like G1 Menasor without looking crap. That doesn't work on a mass-release figure like CW Menasor. Superion looks better because his design was a lot better than Menasor to start with, and so needs less engineering to look faithful whilst still looking good and being sturdy.

Funnily enough, Hasbro can't make every figure exactly to your specifications. Transformers isn't all about you, or even the collectors for that matter. It certainly isn't all about people who throw tantrums if a vehicle in a team has changed from its 30 years old counterpart. If you want a perfect Menasor made exactly how you want, then ask Frenzy-Rumble to do you a custom. And whilst you do, spare a thought for those of us who can't even get the new stuff because the store shelves are still filled with AOE One-Step-Changers, Upscaled Cyberverse and knockoffs, and have to pay extortionate shipping fees and import duty just to get one figure. Literally the only good stuff I can find in my area are Dinobot Construct-Bots. We don't even get Generations over here.

Now take that goddamn stick out of your arse and stop acting like a stuck-up child.

Wow!

Wow! again

[Peridot]

These designers are like gods.

Superion and Menasor look so good, can't wait to get them!

Totally disagree with Rated X, as usual. You need to adjust your scale bro, either it's magnificent or crap. If these are crap, what do you think about energon combiners or power core combiners?

To answer your question, I thought energon combiners were crap until Fansproject fixed their weakest aspects. As far as PCC, I only bought one figure that came with limbs because TFC made actual limb bots to go with him. I did buy several of the PCC characters that came with minicons to use as stand alone characters. But I never gave a crap about the PCC combiner feature because it sucked. Are Combiner Wars better than Energon or PCC's ? Of course, I agree. Are Combiner Wars better than Uranus or Imtimidator ? HELL NO !!! So what do you think about Uranus and Intimidator ? If you had to choose between them or Hasbro (without price being a factor)which would you choose ?

I'd probably choose the official HasTak equivalent. The only 3rd Party figure I own (or intend to own) is X-Transbots Apollyon.

FRICKIN' GLORIOUS.

[megatronus]

Lot's of good that will do.

There's always hope!

[shajaki]

The question wasn't directed at me, but I would still choose CW Superion over Uranos (gasp!!!). It has more to do with me disliking Uranos than liking CW Superion, though.

same here. id have uranos already if thought it was a marvel. for my taste he was too big, and for whatever reason just didnt "wow" me like other 3P combiners. but i have high hopes for CW superion (and i assume an upgrade or two).

[Cobotron]

The question wasn't directed at me, but I would still choose CW Superion over Uranos (gasp!!!). It has more to do with me disliking Uranos than liking CW Superion, though.

same here. id have uranos already if thought it was a marvel. for my taste he was too big, and for whatever reason just didnt "wow" me like other 3P combiners. but i have high hopes for CW superion (and i assume an upgrade or two).

It will be interesting to see what kind of upgrades come out.
Always thought the Energon Superion kit was great, just couldn't commit.

You guys who are more familiar with 3P stuff.
Do you remember if there were some upgrades for G1 Predaking?

[shajaki]

You guys who are more familiar with 3P stuff.
Do you remember if there were some upgrades for G1 Predaking?

alrighty, im not 100% on all this so dont take it as gospel... BUT...

a while back, a 3P company named crazydevy made a bunch of upgrades for G1 predaking (and others). all sold seperately, as in one set for hands, one set for wings, ect. i was late to to game, so when i had started looking for them they were mostly sold out, if not very expensive. even to the point where the upgrades cost as much as predaking himself. so i gave up.

then the platinum (TRU/BBTS) predaking came out, and someone released all those upgrades anew, all in one box and for around $100. though technically i think they are a KO of crazydevy's work.



chimung currently has the sets unboxed (save on shipping) for $74.

theres reviews out there if youre worried about quality, but i recall hearing good things.

[Cobotron]

You guys who are more familiar with 3P stuff.
Do you remember if there were some upgrades for G1 Predaking?

alrighty, im not 100% on all this so dont take it as gospel... BUT...

a while back, a 3P company named crazydevy made a bunch of upgrades for G1 predaking (and others). all sold seperately, as in one set for hands, one set for wings, ect. i was late to to game, so when i had started looking for them they were mostly sold out, if not very expensive. even to the point where the upgrades cost as much as predaking himself. so i gave up.

then the platinum (TRU/BBTS) predaking came out, and someone released all those upgrades anew, all in one box and for around $100. though technically i think they are a KO of crazydevy's work.



chimung currently has the sets unboxed (save on shipping) for $74.

theres reviews out there if youre worried about quality, but i recall hearing good things.

Whoa! That sword is awesome!
Thanks a bunch for looking into it shajaki!
I'll check out some reviews.

[mooncake623]

FYI from BBTS

Arcee & Chromia are in transit - they should arrive sometime during the week of Thanksgiving.

[gothsaurus]

hey. Wow. I'm glad hearing about this. I was getting some of the Crazy Devy parts, but they just broke the bank. I might get this to finish out my missing bits.

But wow. This digressed from Thrilling 30. Getting back on topic, I WOULD love a new Predaking... but have to say, he'd toward the bottom of my list with the rest of the beasts. At the TOP of my list (besides the announced Superion/Menasor), I'd say...

Devastator
Bruticus (G1)
Defensor
Computron
Raiden
Monstructor
Abominus
Predaking
Piranacon

I hope they add a few extra retools and/or heads to add bonus characters. Having a couple extra Constructicons would be especially nice. (or ex constructicons or Autobot counterparts ie. Hauler, Erector, Gravedigger, Hightower, Buckethead, Quickmix, Grapple, Wide Load, Scoop, Quickmix, Landfill...)

[fenrir72]

hey. Wow. I'm glad hearing about this. I was getting some of the Crazy Devy parts, but they just broke the bank. I might get this to finish out my missing bits.

But wow. This digressed from Thrilling 30. Getting back on topic, I WOULD love a new Predaking... but have to say, he'd toward the bottom of my list with the rest of the beasts. At the TOP of my list (besides the announced Superion/Menasor), I'd say...

Devastator
Bruticus (G1)
Defensor
Computron
Raiden
Monstructor
Abominus
Predaking
Piranacon

I hope they add a few extra retools and/or heads to add bonus characters. Having a couple extra Constructicons would be especially nice. (or ex constructicons or Autobot counterparts ie. Hauler, Erector, Gravedigger, Hightower, Buckethead, Quickmix, Grapple, Wide Load, Scoop, Quickmix, Landfill...)

crazydevy?

[gothsaurus]

Yeah, I think the pricing left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths... and ousted a lot of people from buying (including me after a few purchases.)

Have to say, I did like some of the additions. Giant wings did make quite a difference to Predaking.

[Cobotron]

But wow. This digressed from Thrilling 30. Getting back on topic, I WOULD love a new Predaking... but have to say, he'd toward the bottom of my list with the rest of the beasts. At the TOP of my list (besides the announced Superion/Menasor), I'd say...

Devastator - This has GOT to be happening. No doubt.
Bruticus (G1)- I wonder. With the over use(not complaining) of FoC, I could see him sit on
the back burner
Defensor - For sure, gotta have more s
Computron - Anything for another Tron like bike
Raiden - would be AWESOME, but doubt it
Monstructor - Interesting, but a far reach
Abominus - Good Primus, make this real
Predaking - Would be great, but for know I'm happy with my new G1 reissue. It's a
nostalgia thing
Piranacon - Good Primus, make this real

(Goth, I know this is your wish list, just having fun speculating )

I hope they add a few extra retools and/or heads to add bonus characters. Having a couple extra Constructicons would be especially nice. (or ex constructicons or Autobot counterparts ie. Hauler, Erector, Gravedigger, Hightower, Buckethead, Quickmix, Grapple, Wide Load, Scoop, Quickmix, Landfill...)

I have said this twice now, but I love saying it.
I predict with the use of Prime for a Voyager, they will do a team. Repainting the Stunticons as classics like Mirage, Sideswipe, etc.
It will come out 4th qt. as a Xmas time box set.
Makes me wonder if I should hold off on OP as a single Voyager.


One quick question.
When is Thrilling 30 officially over? The release of ComWars?

[Jelze Bunnycat]

One quick question.
When is Thrilling 30 officially over? The release of ComWars?

Exactly.

[Autobot032]

One quick question.
When is Thrilling 30 officially over? The release of ComWars?

Exactly.

I can't believe the 30 are almost finished. I can't even remember all of the releases.

[Cobotron]

One quick question.
When is Thrilling 30 officially over? The release of ComWars?

Exactly.

I can't believe the 30 are almost finished. I can't even remember all of the releases.

Ya know? I think Jelze put up a list some where.
I'll go see if I can find it.
But I bet he'll beet me to it.
Hold on.

[Cobotron]

according to tfwiki

1 – San Diego Comic-Con 2013 / Hasbro Toy Shop exclusive Metroplex
02 – San Diego Comic-Con 2013 / Hasbro Toy Shop exclusive Beast Hunters Shockwave’s Lab
03 – Platinum Edition Ultra Magnus
04 – Platinum Edition Grimlock vs. Bruticus
05 – Animation-Comic-Game Hong Kong 2013 exclusive Metroplex
06 – Cybertron Con 2013 exclusive Beast Hunters Shockwave’s Lab
07 – Cybertron Con 2013 exclusive Prime: Beast Hunters Beast Hunter Optimus Prime (Ultimate Class)
08 – Masterpiece Acid Storm
09 – Masterpiece Soundwave
10 – Platinum Edition Predaking

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Compensating for the missing number 14.

11 – Construct-Bots Beast Hunters: Predacons Rising Predaking
12 – Year of the Horse Platinum Edition Optimus Prime
13 – Year of the Horse Platinum Edition Supreme Starscream
14 – Age of Extinction First Edition Optimus Prime
15 – Masterpiece Sunstorm
16 – Transformers (2014) Protectobots Evac Squad two-pack
17 – Transformers (2014) Protectobots Emergency Response three-pack
18 – Age of Extinction Voyager Class Slog "Generation 1" redeco (Amazon exclusive)
19 – San Diego Comic-Con 2014 / Hasbro Toy Shop exclusive Knights of Unicron Set
20 – Age of Extinction Platinum Edition Breakout Battle
21 – Generations Leader Class Jetfire
22 – Age of Extinction Bumblebee Evolution 2-Pack (Toys"R"Us exclusive)
23 – Age of Extinction Optimus Prime Evolution 2-Pack (Toys"R"Us exclusive)
24 – Age of Extinction Grimlock Evolution 2-Pack (Toys"R"Us exclusive)
25 – Age of Extinction Slug Evolution 2-Pack (Toys"R"Us exclusive)
26 – Age of Extinction Strafe Evolution 2-Pack (Toys"R"Us exclusive)
27 – Masterpiece Prowl
28 – Age of Extinction Smash & Change Silver Knight Optimus Prime / Platinum Edition Silver Knight Optimus Prime (Target exclusives in the US)
29 – Age of Extinction Silver Knight Optimus Prime & Grimlock (Target exclusive in the US)
30 – Generations Deluxe Class Windblade ("Fan-Built Bot")

[Black Bumblebee]

So... what do you all think about the "rumor" in regards to the Titan Devastator that's being reported on other boards: http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-new ... ng-181492/

6 Voyager class figures? Yes please...

[Sabrblade]

So... what do you all think about the "rumor" in regards to the Titan Devastator that's being reported on other boards: http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-new ... ng-181492/

6 Voyager class figures? Yes please...

'Bout time TFW news'd the rumor. Took'em long enough.

We first heard about said rumor a couple pages back - official-transformers-generations-thrilling-30-discussion-thread-t99864s1225.php#p1621123

[Autobot032]

according to tfwiki

1 – San Diego Comic-Con 2013 / Hasbro Toy Shop exclusive Metroplex
02 – San Diego Comic-Con 2013 / Hasbro Toy Shop exclusive Beast Hunters Shockwave’s Lab
03 – Platinum Edition Ultra Magnus
04 – Platinum Edition Grimlock vs. Bruticus
05 – Animation-Comic-Game Hong Kong 2013 exclusive Metroplex
06 – Cybertron Con 2013 exclusive Beast Hunters Shockwave’s Lab
07 – Cybertron Con 2013 exclusive Prime: Beast Hunters Beast Hunter Optimus Prime (Ultimate Class)
08 – Masterpiece Acid Storm
09 – Masterpiece Soundwave
10 – Platinum Edition Predaking

(thumbnail)
Compensating for the missing number 14.

11 – Construct-Bots Beast Hunters: Predacons Rising Predaking
12 – Year of the Horse Platinum Edition Optimus Prime
13 – Year of the Horse Platinum Edition Supreme Starscream
14 – Age of Extinction First Edition Optimus Prime
15 – Masterpiece Sunstorm
16 – Transformers (2014) Protectobots Evac Squad two-pack
17 – Transformers (2014) Protectobots Emergency Response three-pack
18 – Age of Extinction Voyager Class Slog "Generation 1" redeco (Amazon exclusive)
19 – San Diego Comic-Con 2014 / Hasbro Toy Shop exclusive Knights of Unicron Set
20 – Age of Extinction Platinum Edition Breakout Battle
21 – Generations Leader Class Jetfire
22 – Age of Extinction Bumblebee Evolution 2-Pack (Toys"R"Us exclusive)
23 – Age of Extinction Optimus Prime Evolution 2-Pack (Toys"R"Us exclusive)
24 – Age of Extinction Grimlock Evolution 2-Pack (Toys"R"Us exclusive)
25 – Age of Extinction Slug Evolution 2-Pack (Toys"R"Us exclusive)
26 – Age of Extinction Strafe Evolution 2-Pack (Toys"R"Us exclusive)
27 – Masterpiece Prowl
28 – Age of Extinction Smash & Change Silver Knight Optimus Prime / Platinum Edition Silver Knight Optimus Prime (Target exclusives in the US)
29 – Age of Extinction Silver Knight Optimus Prime & Grimlock (Target exclusive in the US)
30 – Generations Deluxe Class Windblade ("Fan-Built Bot")

Whoa. Nicely done! Thank you for the info!

I have the following from that list...

09 – Masterpiece Soundwave

10 – Platinum Edition Predaking

21 – Generations Leader Class Jetfire

22 – Age of Extinction Bumblebee Evolution 2-Pack (Toys"R"Us exclusive)

24 – Age of Extinction Grimlock Evolution 2-Pack (Toys"R"Us exclusive)

26 – Age of Extinction Strafe Evolution 2-Pack (Toys"R"Us exclusive)

30 – Generations Deluxe Class Windblade ("Fan-Built Bot")

Not too bad.

[SW's SilverHammer]

Actually a combiner Wars Monstructor is a possibility due to possible story relevance. In The Transformers: Robots in Disguise #33, Starscream show Wheeljack the three major combiners teams threats in action at the moment. There's Prowl and the Constructicons on earth, Mototrmaster and the Stunticons who are M.I.A, and Monstructor who's body was never recovered after the events of dark cybertron. The way combiner wars is playing out is to be a veritable arms race, with the stunticons most likely siding with the Decepticons; with Prowl and the Constructicons and monstructor being wild cards, and finally Superion who may either side with the Autobots or Cybertron in general.

[shajaki]

One quick question.
When is Thrilling 30 officially over?

when the "thrilling 31" starts.

[Cobotron]

One quick question.
When is Thrilling 30 officially over?

when the "thrilling 31" starts.

It was kind of a dumb question.

"At the end of the year...moe-rron."

[Madeus Prime]

Tentative guess that we'll get a Prowl figure that is compatible to form the body of a combiner. To homage the events in RID. I'd kill for a Prowlestator

[gothsaurus]

Hey Cobotron, your response was exactly what I was hoping for. Curious what combiners other people are most interested in. Cheers!

[GuyIncognito]

One quick question.
When is Thrilling 30 officially over?

It's over, but for some reason the mods have decided that this thread should be only thread for discussion of the Generations line.